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From: Firman W. <fi...@gm...> - 2005-09-21 09:43:30
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Hey guys, It's all about sqlite ext vs pdo (http://pecl.php.net/package/PDO) ext, I'm not sure if we should keep the SQLite (http://pecl.php.net/package/SQLite) support, the developers of it are focus on PDO. I thought this extension will be removed at the future, not sure about that. But, on the other hand if we only use PDO, that's mean the php4 user will be dead, they need to upgraded to php5. I dunno, but we would eliminate the time cost if we use PDO. And, I have been made the phpsla's core under sqlite ext ;-S=20 What do you think guys? --=20 Firman Wandayandi Never Dreamt Before (http://php.hm/~firman/) |
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From: Felipe L. <ff...@gm...> - 2005-09-21 14:41:35
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Hi there Firman! we cannot disconsider php4's users...There are much more ppl on php4 yet i= f compared to php5. On 9/21/05, Firman Wandayandi <fi...@gm...> wrote: > > Hey guys, > > It's all about sqlite ext vs pdo (http://pecl.php.net/package/PDO ) > ext, I'm not sure if we should keep the SQLite > (http://pecl.php.net/package/SQLite) support, the developers of it are > focus on PDO. I thought this extension will be removed at the future, > not sure about that. > > But, on the other hand if we only use PDO, that's mean the php4 user > will be dead, they need to upgraded to php5. > > I dunno, but we would eliminate the time cost if we use PDO. > > And, I have been made the phpsla's core under sqlite ext ;-S > > What do you think guys? > -- > Firman Wandayandi > Never Dreamt Before (http://php.hm/~firman/) > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF.Net email is sponsored by: > Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. > Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your ver= y > own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php > _______________________________________________ > Phpsqliteadmin-devel mailing list > Php...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpsqliteadmin-devel > |
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From: Firman W. <fi...@gm...> - 2005-09-21 17:00:28
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On 9/21/05, Felipe Lopes <ff...@gm...> wrote: > Hi there Firman! > > we cannot disconsider php4's users...There are much more ppl on php4 yet = if > compared to php5. > Yeah Felipe, yes that's true. I'm has thought about it again, PDO are not stable yet. It isn't smart choice if we use only PDO at this time, It's too premature. Also my core has based on SQLite ext. Nevermind I just wanna know, what your comments guys. OK let's move on. > On 9/21/05, Firman Wandayandi <fi...@gm...> wrote: > > > > Hey guys, > > > > It's all about sqlite ext vs pdo (http://pecl.php.net/package/PDO ) > > ext, I'm not sure if we should keep the SQLite > > (http://pecl.php.net/package/SQLite) support, the > developers of it are > > focus on PDO. I thought this extension will be removed at the future, > > not sure about that. > > > > But, on the other hand if we only use PDO, that's mean the php4 user > > will be dead, they need to upgraded to php5. > > > > I dunno, but we would eliminate the time cost if we use PDO. > > > > And, I have been made the phpsla's core under sqlite ext ;-S > > > > What do you think guys? -- Firman Wandayandi Never Dreamt Before (http://php.hm/~firman/) |
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From: Yves G. <yg...@mi...> - 2005-09-27 17:44:14
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On Wednesday 21 September 2005 16:41, Felipe Lopes wrote: > Hi there Firman! > we cannot disconsider php4's users...There are much more ppl on php4 > yet if compared to php5. yes and even with php51 next to the door I guess we will see many php4 installs for the next 1 or 2 years... We must stay php4-compatible. Of course, we can have 2 db-layers, but then, php5 also has the sqlite extension and I don't really see a benefit of using pdo right now. I think the sqlite extension has more functions than pdo-sqlite. > On 9/21/05, Firman Wandayandi <fi...@gm...> wrote: > > Hey guys, > > > > It's all about sqlite ext vs pdo (http://pecl.php.net/package/PDO ) > > ext, I'm not sure if we should keep the SQLite > > (http://pecl.php.net/package/SQLite) support, the developers of it > > are focus on PDO. I thought this extension will be removed at the > > future, not sure about that. > > > > But, on the other hand if we only use PDO, that's mean the php4 > > user will be dead, they need to upgraded to php5. > > > > I dunno, but we would eliminate the time cost if we use PDO. > > > > And, I have been made the phpsla's core under sqlite ext ;-S > > > > What do you think guys? > > -- > > Firman Wandayandi > > Never Dreamt Before (http://php.hm/~firman/) > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > SF.Net email is sponsored by: > > Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. > > Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or > > your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: > > http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php > > _______________________________________________ > > Phpsqliteadmin-devel mailing list > > Php...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpsqliteadmin-devel -- Linux 2.6.13 #1 Mon Aug 29 22:07:30 CEST 2005 i686 19:41:07 up 27 min, 0 users, load average: 0.20, 0.18, 0.14 |
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From: Firman W. <fi...@gm...> - 2005-09-29 04:50:47
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On 9/28/05, Yves Glodt <yg...@mi...> wrote: > On Wednesday 21 September 2005 16:41, Felipe Lopes wrote: > > Hi there Firman! > > we cannot disconsider php4's users...There are much more ppl on php4 > > yet if compared to php5. > > yes and even with php51 next to the door I guess we will see many php4 > installs for the next 1 or 2 years... We must stay php4-compatible. Of > course, we can have 2 db-layers, but then, php5 also has the sqlite > extension and I don't really see a benefit of using pdo right now. I > think the sqlite extension has more functions than pdo-sqlite. > Yep, that's true about benefit. Also you right Yves about sqlite function has more than pdo, caused I dunno how to create the aggregate functions using pdo. Where is it? gone? -- Firman Wandayandi Never Dreamt Before (http://php.hm/~firman/) |
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From: Yves G. <yg...@mi...> - 2005-09-29 05:44:10
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On Thursday 29 September 2005 06:44, Firman Wandayandi wrote: > On 9/28/05, Yves Glodt <yg...@mi...> wrote: > > On Wednesday 21 September 2005 16:41, Felipe Lopes wrote: > > > Hi there Firman! > > > we cannot disconsider php4's users...There are much more ppl on > > > php4 yet if compared to php5. > > > > yes and even with php51 next to the door I guess we will see many > > php4 installs for the next 1 or 2 years... We must stay > > php4-compatible. Of course, we can have 2 db-layers, but then, php5 > > also has the sqlite extension and I don't really see a benefit of > > using pdo right now. I think the sqlite extension has more > > functions than pdo-sqlite. > > Yep, that's true about benefit. Also you right Yves about sqlite > function has more than pdo, caused I dunno how to create the > aggregate functions using pdo. Where is it? gone? I don't know, but I guess, due to the db-unspecificness of pdo, we will never see functions that are dbms-specific (e.g. ibase_gen_id() from firebird) in pdo... > -- > Firman Wandayandi > Never Dreamt Before (http://php.hm/~firman/) > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: > Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, > discussions, and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl > _______________________________________________ > Phpsqliteadmin-devel mailing list > Php...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpsqliteadmin-devel -- Linux 2.6.13 #1 Mon Aug 29 22:07:30 CEST 2005 i686 07:41:48 up 13:04, 0 users, load average: 0.26, 0.11, 0.03 |
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From: Firman W. <fi...@gm...> - 2005-09-29 06:07:25
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On 9/29/05, Yves Glodt <yg...@mi...> wrote: > On Thursday 29 September 2005 06:44, Firman Wandayandi wrote: > > On 9/28/05, Yves Glodt <yg...@mi...> wrote: > > > On Wednesday 21 September 2005 16:41, Felipe Lopes wrote: > > > > Hi there Firman! > > > > we cannot disconsider php4's users...There are much more ppl on > > > > php4 yet if compared to php5. > > > > > > yes and even with php51 next to the door I guess we will see many > > > php4 installs for the next 1 or 2 years... We must stay > > > php4-compatible. Of course, we can have 2 db-layers, but then, php5 > > > also has the sqlite extension and I don't really see a benefit of > > > using pdo right now. I think the sqlite extension has more > > > functions than pdo-sqlite. > > > > Yep, that's true about benefit. Also you right Yves about sqlite > > function has more than pdo, caused I dunno how to create the > > aggregate functions using pdo. Where is it? gone? > > I don't know, but I guess, due to the db-unspecificness of pdo, we will > never see functions that are dbms-specific (e.g. ibase_gen_id() from > firebird) in pdo... > Absolutely, that's what I meant. PDO is easy, simple and maybe faster, also built-in in PHP5, but it's poor with specifics database functions. -- Firman Wandayandi Never Dreamt Before (http://php.hm/~firman/) |
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