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[phplib-users] Alternative framework to phplib

[Marko K. <mk...@mc...>]

Hi phplib users,

I wonder what you would recommend as an alternative to phplib if I want to 
start a completely new project for a web application.

What I like about phplib is the easy user (data) management allowing every 
single use to have his/her own set of variable contents on every new 
login. User perms are great to differentiate between users.

There is PEAR (with tons of different classes), Ajax and whatever... But I 
am lost since I did not develop PHP during the past years anymore.

Wonder what you might suggest as a new technology with future.

Thanks in advance,
Marko

Re: [phplib-users] Alternative framework to phplib

[Marko K. <mk...@mc...>]

I forgot to mention that of course proper support for form generation, 
database abstraction etc. is certainly very important.

Re: [phplib-users] Alternative framework to phplib

[aric c. <gre...@gm...>]

I am using a framework called Kohana.  It has some pretty nice DB
abstraction and it does have support for generating forms, though I do not
use that (I am hand coding my HTML using Appcelerator components).  It also
supports MVC, though it does not force you, and it supports using templates
if you want, but again does not force you to.

On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 7:03 AM, Marko Käning <mk...@mc...> wrote:

> I forgot to mention that of course proper support for form generation,
> database abstraction etc. is certainly very important.
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Re: [phplib-users] Alternative framework to phplib

[Marko K. <mk...@mc...>]

Hi Aric,

> I am using a framework called Kohana.  It has some pretty nice DB
yesterday I finally downloaded the framework and gave it a quick try.

> use that (I am hand coding my HTML using Appcelerator components).  It also
> supports MVC, though it does not force you, and it supports using templates
> if you want, but again does not force you to.
Well, I wasn't able to do much with it yet, but I see where you are coming 
from.

Kohana definitely makes a good impression. It doesn't even need PEAR for 
its basic stuff.

But I have to admit, that getting started with it is not so easy. 
Documentation and examples which I found so far don't get me going really.

What I am looking for is actually an example application which requires 
user login and keeps user variables persistent over login sessions, just 
like phplib does it. But unfortunately I could not find anything like 
that.

Could you point me into a direction? Do you know where to find more usable 
examples? I googled a bit, but there are so many that you don't know where 
to start...

Where should I start if I want to understand how the MVC conept of kohana 
really works?

Probably kohana's website is the point to start and supplies all this 
already and I had been simply too tired tonight when I checked it out...

Anyway, any hint would be helpful!

Best regards,
Marko

Re: [phplib-users] Alternative framework to phplib

[Marko K. <mk...@mc...>]

> I am using a framework called Kohana.  It has some pretty nice DB

Did somebody try out CakePHP? (Looks quite similar, at least concept-wise, 
to Kohana.)

Re: [phplib-users] Alternative framework to phplib

[Lindsay H. <fmo...@fm...>]

Marko,

I've written several classes which you may find useful.  To a greater or
lesser degree the emulate phplib classes and I use them regularly in
website development.  They're based on PEAR classes and do require that
PEAR, in particular MDB2 packages be installed.  The archive consists of
a session class, a user variable class and a database class.  The
latter, in particular, emulates phplib's db handling class sufficiently
well that I generally use it as a drop-in replacement for the phplib
class.  The class files contain copious notes which (I hope) are
adequate to make these classes useful without too much backing and
hauling.  Get:

http://www.fmp.com/downloads/fmplib_classes.tar.gz

On Tue, 2008-12-02 at 13:39 +0100, Marko Käning wrote:
> Hi phplib users,
> 
> I wonder what you would recommend as an alternative to phplib if I want to 
> start a completely new project for a web application.
> 
> What I like about phplib is the easy user (data) management allowing every 
> single use to have his/her own set of variable contents on every new 
> login. User perms are great to differentiate between users.
> 
> There is PEAR (with tons of different classes), Ajax and whatever... But I 
> am lost since I did not develop PHP during the past years anymore.
> 
> Wonder what you might suggest as a new technology with future.
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> Marko

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Re: [phplib-users] Alternative framework to phplib

[Marko K. <mk...@mc...>]

Hi Lindsay and Aric,

thanks for your response. Especially the drop-in replacement by fmplib 
sounds interesting for a quick migration. I'll definitely have a look at 
it.

Well, MVC ... that was one item I missed in my list... ;)
I'll check this out too.

Thanks again.

Best regards,
Marko