Thread: [Phplib-users] Doc suggestions
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From: Giancarlo <gia...@na...> - 2002-07-04 16:40:25
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Among the many useful suggestions one can read in the docs, I can't see any that would state how, for a proper auth, and well before SSL, short expire etc. , only a cookie_only propagation mode (mode=cookie, fallback=cookie) can guarantee the max security available. I don't know if this info is missing because is too obvious, or because you are not fully convinced of it, or what else. And in fact, by proposing Php4 session (which cannot handle cookie_only mode) for everything, such a setup is even discouraged . Gian |
From: Tarique S. <ta...@sa...> - 2002-07-04 17:02:01
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On 4 Jul 2002, Giancarlo wrote: > Among the many useful suggestions one can read in the docs, I can't > see any that would state how, for a proper auth, and well before SSL, > short expire etc. , only a cookie_only propagation mode (mode=cookie, > fallback=cookie) can guarantee the max security available. Why not add a note in the docs yourself? Cheers Tarique -- ============================================================= PHP Applications for E-Biz: http://www.sanisoft.com Indian PHP User Group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/in-phpug ============================================================= |
From: Maxim D. <max...@bo...> - 2002-07-04 17:32:05
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Gian, G> Among the many useful suggestions one can read in the docs, I can't see any that G> would state how, for a proper auth, and well before SSL, short expire etc. That is a good point. G> , only a cookie_only propagation mode G> (mode=cookie, fallback=cookie) can guarantee the max security available. And this begin to sound to me like a soap opera. I see this install just like an option only, not as a must. It does not add substantial security, while impose tight limits on user behavior. I don't buy this statement. Only descent usage of your own head can guarantee the max security available, even with GET fallback mode. G> I don't know if this info is missing because is too obvious, or because you G> are not fully convinced of it, or what else. G> And in fact, by proposing Php4 session (which cannot handle cookie_only mode) for G> everything, such a setup is even discouraged . As well as use of PHP4 because of it is buggy, immature, insecure and miss some features :) You made your best to convince everybody in this list and somewhere else. There would be an OPTION in PHP4 soon to enable cookie-only session installs, and this can be easily incorporated in session class or whatever as an OPTION too. Did you benchmark the speed gain of using PHP4 sessions instead of good old PHPLib's to discourage use of PHP4 sessions? Well, I don't intend to change you point of view. But I and many others do have our own. So, don't think we're so stupid. I do understand your considerations, but I treat them as highly overestimated. -- Best regards, Maxim Derkachev mailto:max...@bo... IT manager, Symbol-Plus Publishing Ltd. phone: +7 (812) 324-53-53 www.books.ru, www.symbol.ru |
From: Richard A. <rh...@ju...> - 2002-07-04 20:59:54
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At 18:40 +0200 4/7/02, Giancarlo wrote: >Among the many useful suggestions one can read in the docs, I can't >see any that would state how, for a proper auth, and well before SSL, >short expire etc. , only a cookie_only propagation mode (mode=cookie, >fallback=cookie) can guarantee the max security available. Requiring cookies to be enabled is a sure-fire way to guarantee your site will break for a small but significant percentage of users. In my opinion, setting a site up in this manner is extremely poor form, and I would hate to see the docs recommending this as the preferred installation option. ...R. |
From: rick h. <ric...@tc...> - 2002-07-05 14:56:54
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check out the microsoft asp sessions they all set a cookie -----Original Message----- From: php...@li... [mailto:php...@li...]On Behalf Of Richard Archer Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2002 1:53 PM To: php...@so... Subject: Re: [Phplib-users] Doc suggestions At 18:40 +0200 4/7/02, Giancarlo wrote: >Among the many useful suggestions one can read in the docs, I can't >see any that would state how, for a proper auth, and well before SSL, >short expire etc. , only a cookie_only propagation mode (mode=cookie, >fallback=cookie) can guarantee the max security available. Requiring cookies to be enabled is a sure-fire way to guarantee your site will break for a small but significant percentage of users. In my opinion, setting a site up in this manner is extremely poor form, and I would hate to see the docs recommending this as the preferred installation option. ...R. ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Caffeinated soap. No kidding. http://thinkgeek.com/sf _______________________________________________ Phplib-users mailing list Php...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phplib-users |
From: Richard A. <rh...@ju...> - 2002-07-05 22:27:54
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At 7:13 -0700 5/7/02, rick herbel wrote: >check out the microsoft asp sessions they all set a cookie Yeah, but we all know Microsoft solutions are broken which is why we use PHP :) ...R. |