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Re: Re[4]: [Phplib-users] PHPLIB without 'register_globals'

[Dr T. S. <ta...@sa...>]

On Thu, 19 Sep 2002, Maxim Derkachev wrote:

> Hello, Tarique,
> 
> Thursday, September 19, 2002, 2:04:05 PM, you wrote:
> DTS> The only solution I can see is maintain 2 separate classes which is baaaad
> 
> I suppose, it can be one class, but two different APIs ...
> Applications that work with one of the APIs will be incompatible with
> those that work with the other.

Yes having two API is a solution 

BTW folks I tried (successfully) to hack auth.inc to work with
session4.inc (more like PHP 4 sessions) BUT it is a very
dirty job with $_SESSION["auth"] strewn all over the place, it works OK
with log mode  

Tarique

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R: [Phplib-users] PEAR versus phplib

[Gaetano G. <giu...@se...>]

Disclaimer: I am not an official phplib programmer. And this reply is =
way off-topic...

> Hi,
>=20
> just for being up-to-date: Is there any news about the=20
> progress with PEAR
> in comparison to phplib? I remember some speed comparisons with MySQL
> where phplib's db_mysql.inc eventually turned out to be the winner
> concerning performance.
>=20

There were some tests done not too long ago done by the coder of the =
ADODB library, concerning DB access speed. ADODB was a clear winner, if =
I remember correctly.
IMHO the big advantages of using an universal db-acces framework are =
ease of use and consistency, not speed. Speed varies much depending on =
wether you use bind variables and stored procedures (talking about =
Oracle, other DBs have different rules), so I spend my time optimizing =
SQL rather than PHP code...

I use my own DB access library (based on PhpDB and haevily tweaked) for =
db access, and have modified phplib to sit on top of it: I really do not =
like too much the pear-db design.

On the other hand PEAR is (was?) distributed along with PHP, so it has a =
clear advantage over phplib.
It also is being developed really more actively than phplib is. I have =
heard people complaining about phplib not incorporating patches very =
quickly, and traffic on this list dropped dead when it moved to =
sourceforge (actually I had unsubscribed beforehand coz it was too =
much).

But I would really like to see phplib thrive and get better.

My own wishes:
- make it compatible with REGISTER_GLOBALS OFF! Either have 2 API sets =
or just dump the old code, I don't mind too much as long as it is =
compatible with new releases of PHP.
- provide alternatives to the db-access layer, e.g. better integration =
w. adodb or pear-db etc...
- provide integration with other php projects that do all the =
auth-session over again, e.g. phpBB

Bye, Gaetano

Oh, and yes, I know, this is open source, so if I need something I can =
do it myself...

[Phplib-users] PEAR versus phplib

[Marko K. <Mar...@mc...>]

Hi,

just for being up-to-date: Is there any news about the progress with PEAR
in comparison to phplib? I remember some speed comparisons with MySQL
where phplib's db_mysql.inc eventually turned out to be the winner
concerning performance.

Looking at the PEAR website it looks like they are very active and have a
lot of projects running. But I don't really know how to value that... Just
ignored what happened over there, since I was always very content with my
apps based on phplib and Maxim Derkachevs session4_custom.

Now, looking at the register_globals=off-issue I try to understand whether
it makes sense to migrate to PEAR... Is this community bigger in
comparison to phplib? I am afraid that the number of phplib users
decreases, given the traffic on this list... Maybe I am mistaken, but if
not, so I'd value any helpful comment concerning PEAR and its
perspectives. I don't want to believe everything what is said on their
website, better want to know what phplib's programmers community thinks
about it!

Thanks in advance.

Marko

Re: [Phplib-users] indent - help from phplib users?

[Marko K. <Mar...@mc...>]

Hi Tarique,

> There is a Linux port of phpCodeBeautifier promised BUT beware the
ahh, didn't know about that, since I didn't check the site since a while,
because the soft didn't really give me enough freedom in defining how to
format the code.

> software itself has serious bugs which break your code. However it looks
oops, didn't know that it is that bad, actually.

> like they are getting closer to having it repaired in each successive
> releases
well, will check that.


Anyway, Tarique, thanks again for pointing me to your collagues
WYSIWYG-editor. Last time I tried I didn't set up my form handling
properly, but now it works without problem. Nice code!!!

Marko

Re[4]: [Phplib-users] PHPLIB without 'register_globals'

[Maxim D. <max...@bo...>]

Hello, Tarique,

Thursday, September 19, 2002, 2:04:05 PM, you wrote:
DTS> The only solution I can see is maintain 2 separate classes which is baaaad

I suppose, it can be one class, but two different APIs ...
Applications that work with one of the APIs will be incompatible with
those that work with the other.


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www.books.ru, www.symbol.ru 

Re: [Phplib-users] indent - help from phplib users?

[Dr T. S. <ta...@sa...>]

On Thu, 19 Sep 2002, Marko Kaening wrote:

> I don't use PEAR myself, just phplib, but I found a hint there how to
> beautify existing PHP code.

There is a Linux port of phpCodeBeautifier promised BUT beware the
software itself has serious bugs which break your code. However it looks
like they are getting closer to having it repaired in each successive
releases

Tarique

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Re: Re[2]: [Phplib-users] PHPLIB without 'register_globals'

[Dr T. S. <ta...@sa...>]

On Thu, 19 Sep 2002, Maxim Derkachev wrote:

> So, the patches can be easily incorporated, but I'm sure they'll definitely
> break backward compatibility.

Yes they will certainly break backward compatibility :-(

BUT so did PHP when is started shipping with register_globals off

> The question is open. Maybe I've missed something and somebody has
> something to add?

The only solution I can see is maintain 2 separate classes which is baaaad

Tarique

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[Phplib-users] indent - help from phplib users?

[Marko K. <Mar...@mc...>]

Hi,

I don't use PEAR myself, just phplib, but I found a hint there how to
beautify existing PHP code.

In the PEAR docs you can find a way how to reformat existing PHP code with
the help of the tool 'indent'. On the site below "Documentation/Coding
Standards/Indents" you find a call like:

   indent -nut -bap -br -ce -cli4 -ncs -ss -npcs -saf \
          -sai -saw -nprs -bfda -psl -brs \
          -lp -nbbo -hnl -i4 -ci4


Well, if you search for proper php code indention tools, it looks like
there is no really 100% working possibility available at the moment!
Even in PEAR's list archives there is no real help concerning this.

But the indent command listed on top has its problems!!!

It is known that it breaks the php tag which makes the code unusable:

	<?php 		becomes 	< ? php

====

As well all the array assignments get mixed up,especially in long lines,
which are going to be wrapped:
---

   $t->set_var(array(
        'SortLinkNr' => addquery($Lampen_url,'mSort=Nr'),
        'SortLinkLampenname' => addquery($Lampen_url,'mSort=Lampenname'),
        'SortLinkDatum' => addquery($Lampen_url,'mSort=Datum'),
        'LampeFilter_url' => addquery($Experimente_url,'mLampenname=&fLampenname='),


---
will result in
---

$t->set_var(array('SortLinkNr' = >addquery($Lampen_url, 'mSort=Nr'),
                  'SortLinkLampenname' =
                  >addquery($Lampen_url, 'mSort=Lampenname'),
                  'SortLinkDatum' =
                  >addquery($Lampen_url, 'mSort=Datum'), 'LampeFilter_url' =
                  >addquery($Experimente_url, 'mLampenname=&fLampenname='),

---

One can see that all the arrows "=>" got torn apart. The ">" seems to be
treated as belonging to the following word. So the wrapping of text lets
it appear even stranger. This code is not going to run anymore.

Any ideas how to avoid these troubles.

Marko


P.S.:
I know that the PHP code beautifier <http://tools.phpedit.net/phpCodeBeautifier/>
exists, but since it's under Windows I'd prefer something like indent, if
possible.

[Phplib-users] parser nl2br with tables

[<so...@gm...>]

hello list,

im searching for a parse who do this job:

parse nl2br into the content from the db.
but not in <table> tags. only in <td> tags
and outside of the table.

best regards,
MAREK.


i think it must be look like this...
but it's not so easy. (problem for example:
<table> can look sometimes: <table>
and <table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0">

function parse_nl2br_table($parse_string) {
 $pos_start = 0;
 $pos_end = 0;
 while ((strpos($parse_string, "<table>") != FALSE) ||
(substr($parse_string,0,7) == "<table>")) {
   $pos_start = strpos($parse_string,"<table>");
   $pos_end = strpos($parse_string,"</table>");
  $out = substr($parse_string,$pos_start+7,$pos_end-8);
   $out = $out;
  $parse_string =
substr($parse_string,0,$pos_start).$out.substr($parse_string,
$pos_end+8,strlen($parse_string));
 }
 return $parse_string;
}

Re[2]: [Phplib-users] PHPLIB without 'register_globals'

[Maxim D. <max...@bo...>]

Hello friends,

MK> There was a discussion on this list about that issue concerning
MK> session4_custom where Maxim Derkachev, the author of that nice piece of
MK> code, mentioned that he is unable to do that job right now.

The problem is the session_register() & session_unregister() don't
work with register_globals='off'. Only direct assignment to $_SESSION
array works. I don't know why the silly decision in the PHP group camp
was made, cause it breaks compatibility but does not make any profit.
session_register() & session_unregister() take the variable names as
argument, and the named variables for the session_register() should be globals.
$_SESSION needs the variable itself, and the variable does not need to
be global - there could be no variables at all, indeed, we can assign
constants to $_SESSION keys. The difference is fundamental, and we can
not change the session4 class and retain compatibility, because
$sess->register() & unregister historically take varname argument.
But to make them work with register_globals=off we need to pass them
the variable content (or a reference) as well.
So, the patches can be easily incorporated, but I'm sure they'll definitely
break backward compatibility.
The question is open. Maybe I've missed something and somebody has
something to add?


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phone: +7 (812) 324-53-53
www.books.ru, www.symbol.ru 

Re: [Phplib-users] PHPLIB without 'register_globals'

[Marko K. <Mar...@mc...>]

Hi Chris,

> Patches to make the remaining pieces of PHPLIB (session4_custom and
> OOForms, for example) work with register_globals off should be submitted.
Tarique already sent a link to his modified version of OOHforms. I think
it was a link inside the phplib documentation.

There was a discussion on this list about that issue concerning
session4_custom where Maxim Derkachev, the author of that nice piece of
code, mentioned that he is unable to do that job right now. So, somebody
else needs to fix this accordingly!

> I think we would all like the released version of PHPLIB to function
> without registered globals.
Certainly.

Marko

[Phplib-users] access secured pages via lynx in crontab

[Frank B. <fb...@sy...>]

I have some pages that are secured with phplib sess/auth/perm.  Some of 
these pages produce report type data in tables.  I would like to initiate 
these reports from crontab using lynx - can I supply the security 
information for this on command line?  If not, how else can I accomplish my 
goal without rewriting the reports in another script?

Frank

Re: [Phplib-users] PHPLIB without 'register_globals'

[Chris J. <ch...@ch...>]

On Wed, Sep 18, 2002 at 04:41:05PM +0530, Dr Tarique Sani wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Sep 2002, Marko Kaening wrote:
> 
> > > > What isn't working with register_globals off?  I've been using the
> > > > db, sessions, auth, perm, and templates with no problems.
> > > Have you been able to work with PHP4 Session4.inc and register_globals
> > > off?
> > According to Maxim Derkachev session4_custom at least doesn't work the off
> > setting and I am afraid oohforms wouldn't work as well.
> 
> The session works BUT auth fails
> 
> There is a patch for OOHforms linked from the manual to make it work with
> register_globals off
> 
> Tarique

Patches to make the remaining pieces of PHPLIB (session4_custom and
OOForms, for example) work with register_globals off should be submitted.
I think we would all like the released version of PHPLIB to function
without registered globals.

-- 
    ..chris

Re: [Phplib-users] OOHform quirck

[Dr T. S. <ta...@sa...>]

On Wed, 18 Sep 2002, Marko Kaening wrote:

> The HTML output looks like this:
> 
> 	<input name='resetname' type=reset value=''>
> 
> Any idea?

The problem is that PHP does not post the value of a reset button
:-(

And that is probably the reason as to why the original implementation of
OOHForm did not have a reset type.

The best way is to hardcode the reset button into your template

HTH

Tarique

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[Phplib-users] OOHform quirck

[Marko K. <Mar...@mc...>]

Hi,

I added a reset button to my form like this:

	$f->add_element(array('type'=>'reset',
        	                'value'=>'Reset',
                	        'name'=>'resetname'));

later it gets outputted via:

	echo $f->ge('resetname');


But unfortunately after pressing a SUBMIT type button in my form the reset
button appears without the text 'Reset' as at the beginning. Looks like
Reset resetted its own content...

The HTML output looks like this:

	<input name='resetname' type=reset value=''>

Any idea?

Marko

Re: [Phplib-users] PHPLIB without 'register_globals'

[Dr T. S. <ta...@sa...>]

On Wed, 18 Sep 2002, Marko Kaening wrote:

> > > What isn't working with register_globals off?  I've been using the
> > > db, sessions, auth, perm, and templates with no problems.
> > Have you been able to work with PHP4 Session4.inc and register_globals
> > off?
> According to Maxim Derkachev session4_custom at least doesn't work the off
> setting and I am afraid oohforms wouldn't work as well.

The session works BUT auth fails

There is a patch for OOHforms linked from the manual to make it work with
register_globals off

Tarique

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Re: [Phplib-users] PHPLIB without 'register_globals'

[Marko K. <Mar...@mc...>]

Hi,

> > What isn't working with register_globals off?  I've been using the
> > db, sessions, auth, perm, and templates with no problems.
> Have you been able to work with PHP4 Session4.inc and register_globals
> off?
According to Maxim Derkachev session4_custom at least doesn't work the off
setting and I am afraid oohforms wouldn't work as well.

Marko

Re: [Phplib-users] PHPLIB without 'register_globals'

[Dr T. S. <ta...@sa...>]

On Tue, 17 Sep 2002, Joe Stewart wrote:

> On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 04:04:12PM -0700, Dennis Gearon wrote:
> > Is this being worked on? Does someone want to work on it with me?
> > 
> 
> What isn't working with register_globals off?  I've been using the 
> db, sessions, auth, perm, and templates with no problems.

Have you been able to work with PHP4 Session4.inc and register_globals
off?

Tarique

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Re: [Phplib-users] Newbie questions

[Joe S. <jo...@be...>]

Hello,

On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 04:38:34PM -0700, Dennis Gearon wrote:
> 1/ How do I respond directly to a post listed on Sourceforge. It comes
> up (read only) even if I'm logged into Sourceforge.
> 

I don't believe sf.net allows posting to the list from the web.

> 2/ How do I get CVS access?
> 

You probably don't need more than anonymous access yet.  Submit possible 
code changes as patches to the sf.net patch manager.

> 3/ Where's a good tutorial on using CVS? I will probably use it through
> a telnet account I have at an account on a server.
> 

http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=763&group_id=1

Specifically the instructions on checking out source.  There is a link to 
The CVS Book at the bottom of the page.  This is an excellent reference.  


> 4/ How could I branch off the whole thing, as, for example,
> phplib-7d-ngr2
> (ngr2 = no global registers required)
> 

Surely not needed.  Submit your changes as a patch.  

> Thanks for your patience.
> 

np

Joe

Re: [Phplib-users] PHPLIB without 'register_globals'

[Joe S. <jo...@be...>]

On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 04:04:12PM -0700, Dennis Gearon wrote:
> Is this being worked on? Does someone want to work on it with me?
> 

What isn't working with register_globals off?  I've been using the 
db, sessions, auth, perm, and templates with no problems.

Which version on phplib?

thanks,

Joe

Re: [Phplib-users] Newbie questions

[Dr T. S. <ta...@sa...>]

On Tue, 17 Sep 2002, Dennis Gearon wrote:

> 2/ How do I get CVS access?

You have anon CVS access
 
> 3/ Where's a good tutorial on using CVS? I will probably use it through
> a telnet account I have at an account on a server.

http://www.sanisoft.com/res/cvs.html 

Here is intro article on CVS I wrote sometime back 

HTH
Tarique


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[Phplib-users] Newbie questions

[Dennis G. <ge...@cv...>]

1/ How do I respond directly to a post listed on Sourceforge. It comes
up (read only) even if I'm logged into Sourceforge.

2/ How do I get CVS access?

3/ Where's a good tutorial on using CVS? I will probably use it through
a telnet account I have at an account on a server.

4/ How could I branch off the whole thing, as, for example,
phplib-7d-ngr2
(ngr2 = no global registers required)

Thanks for your patience.






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[Phplib-users] PHPLIB without 'register_globals'

[Dennis G. <ge...@cv...>]

Is this being worked on? Does someone want to work on it with me?

Re: R: [Phplib-users] OOHforms floods error_log

[Marko K. <Mar...@mc...>]

Thanks Gaetano,

that was the right hint for me! :)

> True. IMHO a very good thing: train developers to write clean code!
;)

> Unfortunately will break or give a lot of warnings w. old libraries written carelessly.
Yeah, that's true.

Did you notice such errors also with the template.inc? I have quite a few
entries like:

[Mon Sep 16 16:54:38 2002] [error] PHP Notice:  Undefined index:  rows in
/usr/local/lib/php/template.inc on line 211
[Mon Sep 16 16:54:38 2002] [error] PHP Notice:  Undefined offset:  0 in
/usr/local/lib/php/template.inc on line 111

where 'rows' is a real block name, but '0' is something strange for me,
since I never defined such a block... Looks like a quirck inside
template.inc???

> Use function error_reporting(). You could put it at the top of local.inc...
Well, that's the right thing to do for me. The script where I use
oohforms.inc got this command as the first line! ;) Now it's much nicer!
Unfortunately notices caused by my own script are now hidden as well. But
okay... better than before if you know what you are doing.

Thanks again!

Regards,
Marko

R: [Phplib-users] OOHforms floods error_log

[Gaetano G. <giu...@se...>]

>=20
> Hi,
>=20
> I noticed that oohforms floods my error_log of the apache with Notices
> like:
>=20
> [Mon Sep 16 14:39:50 2002] [error] PHP Notice:  Undefined=20
> property:  icase
> in /usr/local/lib/php/of_text.inc on line 98
> [Mon Sep 16 14:39:50 2002] [error] PHP Notice:  Undefined=20
> index:  frozen
> in /usr/local/lib/php/oohforms.inc on line 284
>=20
> Hundreds of them...
>=20
> It's really a mess.
>=20
> Looks like its implementation is not really clean. I noticed=20
> that newer
> versions of PHP get more picky concerning undefined variables=20
> or wrongly
> defined constants.=20

True. IMHO a very good thing: train developers to write clean code!
Unfortunately will break or give a lot of warnings w. old libraries =
written carelessly.

> Or, do I miss a special switch to get rid=20
> of all this.

In ini file: error_reporting =3D E_ALL & ~E_NOTICE=20

> But nevertheless it looks not so nice... Would be better to have some
> possibility to disable this notice messages locally for only=20
> the oohform's
> *.inc files. :) I know the code is working well, but I would=20
> like not to
> see all these notices, since they hide my own error messages... ;)
>=20
> OK, any idea about this?
>=20

Use function error_reporting(). You could put it at the top of =
local.inc...

Bye,
Gaetano