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[PHPiCalendar-DEV] What License does PHP iCalendar use?

[Marook K. <ma...@cr...>]

Hi All,

Was surfing around tonight and saw a new version of 'Tasks Pro' from =20
King Design.

It's a commercial ($125-$500..) piece of PHP software, that 'bundles' =20=

PHP iCalendar, and I was wondering if this is even allowed - or are =20
someone in the developer group affiliated with King Design?

If PHP iCalendar is under GPL, shouldn't there be a free non-=20
commersial version of Tasks Pro as long as they use this software in =20
it????

Sorry about the non-code question..  ;-)


     Jakob Peterh=E4nsel

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- Kylie Minogue

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Re: [PHPiCalendar-DEV] What License does PHP iCalendar use?

[Ben F. <li...@hi...>]

Marook Kenja wrote:

> If PHP iCalendar is under GPL, shouldn't there be a free non-commersial
> version of Tasks Pro as long as they use this software in it????

There is nothing in the GPL which prohibits anyone from charging for
software, providing they release the source code of any changes they
make. It's free as in freedom, not free as in beer.

Ben

Re: [PHPiCalendar-DEV] What License does PHP iCalendar use?

[Marook K. <ma...@cr...>]

Hi,

Ok, I just thought they where not allowed to charge for software that =20=

included it, but is allowed to charge for consultant work around it.

As their software links to this project and even state "now includes =20
PHP iCalendar 2.1", it seems to me they make money on open-source =20
software be re-selling it.
I know it's onnly an add-on feature, but it's listed as a feature, =20
not as a 'possible integration option'

Ohh well..,


     Jakob Peterh=E4nsel

'I don't have to try to be a sex bomb, I am one!'
- Kylie Minogue

Email:     ja...@hj...
AIM:         Marook
Phone:     +45 22684961

On 29/11/2005, at 23:27, Ben Francis wrote:

> Marook Kenja wrote:
>
>> If PHP iCalendar is under GPL, shouldn't there be a free non-=20
>> commersial
>> version of Tasks Pro as long as they use this software in it????
>
> There is nothing in the GPL which prohibits anyone from charging for
> software, providing they release the source code of any changes they
> make. It's free as in freedom, not free as in beer.
>
> Ben
>

Re: [PHPiCalendar-DEV] What License does PHP iCalendar use?

[Chad L. <ch...@ch...>]

I've actually considered changing the license to something free-er =20
under Creative Commons. Like free but give attribution. It hasn't =20
been an issue getting improvements back into the system.

-Chad

On Nov 29, 2005, at 3:08 PM, Marook Kenja wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Ok, I just thought they where not allowed to charge for software =20
> that included it, but is allowed to charge for consultant work =20
> around it.
>
> As their software links to this project and even state "now =20
> includes PHP iCalendar 2.1", it seems to me they make money on open-=20=

> source software be re-selling it.
> I know it's onnly an add-on feature, but it's listed as a feature, =20
> not as a 'possible integration option'
>
> Ohh well..,
>
>
>     Jakob Peterh=E4nsel
>
> 'I don't have to try to be a sex bomb, I am one!'
> - Kylie Minogue
>
> Email:     ja...@hj...
> AIM:         Marook
> Phone:     +45 22684961
>
> On 29/11/2005, at 23:27, Ben Francis wrote:
>
>> Marook Kenja wrote:
>>
>>> If PHP iCalendar is under GPL, shouldn't there be a free non-=20
>>> commersial
>>> version of Tasks Pro as long as they use this software in it????
>>
>> There is nothing in the GPL which prohibits anyone from charging for
>> software, providing they release the source code of any changes they
>> make. It's free as in freedom, not free as in beer.
>>
>> Ben
>>
>
>
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Re: [PHPiCalendar-DEV] What License does PHP iCalendar use?

[Ben F. <li...@hi...>]

Chad Little wrote:
> I've actually considered changing the license to something free-er 
> under Creative Commons. Like free but give attribution. 

Just want to mention that every time someone posts a message the
creative commons license mailing list asking about licensing software
the usual response is "Creative Commons isn't really suited to
software". It's not that you can't use a creative commons license, it's
just not what they're designed for and you could run into problems in
the future.

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Re: [PHPiCalendar-DEV] What License does PHP iCalendar use?

[Wesley M. <we...@we...>]

I'm guessing the BSD license is what Chad is really looking for???

Anyway, bundling is different from integrating. Under the GPL (which =20
is PHP iCalendar's current license), if they integrate PHP iCalendar =20
with their other software, then their other software needs to be =20
released under the GPL also. But if they're just bundling then the =20
only thing they need to do is include the source code somehow, and =20
not even necessarily on the same media.

Just from looking at the screen shots, it looks like TasksPro will =20
generate iCalendar files, which can be accessed or subscribed to via =20
any iCalendar compliant software, which includes PHP iCalendar. Which =20=

seems to match his statement:

"Please note: PHP iCalendar is bundled with Tasks Pro=99 as a web based =20=

iCalendar viewer for the Tasks Pro=99 generated iCalendars. However, =20
PHP iCalendar is not my software and I do not provide any support for =20=

it."

On Nov 29, 2005, at 4:38 PM, Ben Francis wrote:

> Chad Little wrote:
>> I've actually considered changing the license to something free-er
>> under Creative Commons. Like free but give attribution.
>
> Just want to mention that every time someone posts a message the
> creative commons license mailing list asking about licensing software
> the usual response is "Creative Commons isn't really suited to
> software". It's not that you can't use a creative commons license, =20
> it's
> just not what they're designed for and you could run into problems in
> the future.
>
> --
> Ben "tola" Francis
> http://hippygeek.co.uk
>
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