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[PHPiCalendar-DEV] What are the requirements for a 1.0 release?

[Ben B. <bar...@ur...>]

I'm wondering what the requirements for a 1.0 release of PHP iCalendar
are. Some people have expressed a desire to reach that milestone, but I
can't find anything online that lays out what will constitute such a
release.

	Ben

Re: [PHPiCalendar-DEV] What are the requirements for a 1.0 release?

[Chad <ch...@ch...>]

Well its been coved in previous emails only, not really posted 
anywhere. Obviously this has changed so I'll make a new one:

Zero bugs in SourceForge
Timezones in prefs page
FTP upload / deletion via admin page
Completion of 0.9.2
Multiple calendars?


After 0.9.2, I'd like to get a 1.0 beta out, wait about 2 weeks on 
bugs, then release 1.0 at zero bugs.
The bugs are what are holding a solid release right now (that and the 
incomplete features for 0.9.2).

-Chad


On Thursday, April 3, 2003, at 11:18  AM, Ben Barnard wrote:

> I'm wondering what the requirements for a 1.0 release of PHP iCalendar
> are. Some people have expressed a desire to reach that milestone, but I
> can't find anything online that lays out what will constitute such a
> release.
>
> 	Ben
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Re: [PHPiCalendar-DEV] What are the requirements for a 1.0 release?

[Mike T. <mt...@ya...>]

I'm still confused about the ftp upload / deletion. Why do we need to use the ftp server when we have direct access to the filesystem via php? It seems analogous to using a ftp client/server on your pc instead of mac's finder / windows' explorer.
mike
 Chad <ch...@ch...> wrote:Well its been coved in previous emails only, not really posted 
anywhere. Obviously this has changed so I'll make a new one:

Zero bugs in SourceForge
Timezones in prefs page
FTP upload / deletion via admin page
Completion of 0.9.2
Multiple calendars?


After 0.9.2, I'd like to get a 1.0 beta out, wait about 2 weeks on 
bugs, then release 1.0 at zero bugs.
The bugs are what are holding a solid release right now (that and the 
incomplete features for 0.9.2).

-Chad


On Thursday, April 3, 2003, at 11:18 AM, Ben Barnard wrote:

> I'm wondering what the requirements for a 1.0 release of PHP iCalendar
> are. Some people have expressed a desire to reach that milestone, but I
> can't find anything online that lays out what will constitute such a
> release.
>
> Ben
>
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Re: [PHPiCalendar-DEV] What are the requirements for a 1.0 release?

[Chad <ch...@ch...>]

Because its a more secure authentication and the current=20
implementationof unlink in CVS does not work on my computer. What if=20
the file is outside Apache? How will unlink delete it then if it=20
doesn't have file persmissions to do so? Not to mention the number of=20
web hosts out there who do not support unlink via the php.ini file.

We need to focus on the broadest support range, and right now that is=20
FTP. I know it is not the solution that works best for you, but we need=20=

to think about *every* installation.

-C

On Thursday, April 3, 2003, at 11:52  AM, Mike Traum wrote:

> I'm still confused about the ftp upload / deletion. Why do we need to=20=

> use the ftp server when we have direct access to the filesystem via=20
> php? It seems analogous to using a ftp client/server on your pc=20
> instead of mac's finder / windows' explorer.
>
> mike
>
> =A0Chad <ch...@ch...> wrote:
>
> Well its been coved in previous emails only, not really posted
> anywhere. Obviously this has changed so I'll make a new one:
>
> Zero bugs in SourceForge
> Timezones in prefs page
> FTP upload / deletion via admin page
> Completion of 0.9.2
> Multiple calendars?
>
>
> After 0.9.2, I'd like to get a 1.0 beta out, wait about 2 weeks on
> bugs, then release 1.0 at zero bugs.
> The bugs are what are holding a solid release right now (that and the
> incomplete features for 0.9.2).
>
> -Chad
>
>
> On Thursday, April 3, 2003, at 11:18 AM, Ben Barnard wrote:
>
> > I'm wondering what the requirements for a 1.0 release of PHP=20
> iCalendar
> > are. Some people have expressed a desire to reach that milestone,=20
> but I
> > can't find anything online that lays out what will constitute such a
> > release.
> >
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Re: [PHPiCalendar-DEV] What are the requirements for a 1.0 release?

[Cory B. <pi...@hi...>]

On Thu, 2003-04-03 at 13:07, Chad wrote:
> Because its a more secure authentication and the current 
> implementationof unlink in CVS does not work on my computer. What if 
> the file is outside Apache? How will unlink delete it then if it 
> doesn't have file persmissions to do so? Not to mention the number of 
> web hosts out there who do not support unlink via the php.ini file.

> We need to focus on the broadest support range, and right now that is 
> FTP. I know it is not the solution that works best for you, but we need 
> to think about *every* installation.

While I do think these are valid concerns, I do not think they should
stop this from being included into phpiCalendar.As long as FTP is always
a workable option I don't see any reason not to build this piece. I
think that a README/REQUIREMENTS document should just be build to
explain why this might not work in some instances.

The benefits of this piece would be that a lot of people aren't savvy
enough to use FTP. Someone more technically inclined than them could
setup the calendar piece and then allow them to use this piece to manage
their calendars...

-Cory


> -C
> 
> On Thursday, April 3, 2003, at 11:52  AM, Mike Traum wrote:
> 
> > I'm still confused about the ftp upload / deletion. Why do we need to 
> > use the ftp server when we have direct access to the filesystem via 
> > php? It seems analogous to using a ftp client/server on your pc 
> > instead of mac's finder / windows' explorer.
> >
> > mike
> >
> >  Chad <ch...@ch...> wrote:
> >
> > Well its been coved in previous emails only, not really posted
> > anywhere. Obviously this has changed so I'll make a new one:
> >
> > Zero bugs in SourceForge
> > Timezones in prefs page
> > FTP upload / deletion via admin page
> > Completion of 0.9.2
> > Multiple calendars?
> >
> >
> > After 0.9.2, I'd like to get a 1.0 beta out, wait about 2 weeks on
> > bugs, then release 1.0 at zero bugs.
> > The bugs are what are holding a solid release right now (that and the
> > incomplete features for 0.9.2).
> >
> > -Chad
> >
> >
> > On Thursday, April 3, 2003, at 11:18 AM, Ben Barnard wrote:
> >
> > > I'm wondering what the requirements for a 1.0 release of PHP 
> > iCalendar
> > > are. Some people have expressed a desire to reach that milestone, 
> > but I
> > > can't find anything online that lays out what will constitute such a
> > > release.
> > >
> > > Ben
> > >
> > >
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Re: [PHPiCalendar-DEV] What are the requirements for a 1.0 release?

[Mike T. <mt...@ya...>]

I believe (hope) that we are not talking about the user not actually using FTP. The user would have a html form to upload the file. FTP comes into play on the backend with the file operation routines, and would be transparent to the user (except that they need to know the ftp username & password).
mike
 Cory Bertsch <pi...@hi...> wrote:On Thu, 2003-04-03 at 13:07, Chad wrote:
> Because its a more secure authentication and the current 
> implementationof unlink in CVS does not work on my computer. What if 
> the file is outside Apache? How will unlink delete it then if it 
> doesn't have file persmissions to do so? Not to mention the number of 
> web hosts out there who do not support unlink via the php.ini file.

> We need to focus on the broadest support range, and right now that is 
> FTP. I know it is not the solution that works best for you, but we need 
> to think about *every* installation.

While I do think these are valid concerns, I do not think they should
stop this from being included into phpiCalendar.As long as FTP is always
a workable option I don't see any reason not to build this piece. I
think that a README/REQUIREMENTS document should just be build to
explain why this might not work in some instances.

The benefits of this piece would be that a lot of people aren't savvy
enough to use FTP. Someone more technically inclined than them could
setup the calendar piece and then allow them to use this piece to manage
their calendars...

-Cory


> -C
> 
> On Thursday, April 3, 2003, at 11:52 AM, Mike Traum wrote:
> 
> > I'm still confused about the ftp upload / deletion. Why do we need to 
> > use the ftp server when we have direct access to the filesystem via 
> > php? It seems analogous to using a ftp client/server on your pc 
> > instead of mac's finder / windows' explorer.
> >
> > mike
> >
> > Chad wrote:
> >
> > Well its been coved in previous emails only, not really posted
> > anywhere. Obviously this has changed so I'll make a new one:
> >
> > Zero bugs in SourceForge
> > Timezones in prefs page
> > FTP upload / deletion via admin page
> > Completion of 0.9.2
> > Multiple calendars?
> >
> >
> > After 0.9.2, I'd like to get a 1.0 beta out, wait about 2 weeks on
> > bugs, then release 1.0 at zero bugs.
> > The bugs are what are holding a solid release right now (that and the
> > incomplete features for 0.9.2).
> >
> > -Chad
> >
> >
> > On Thursday, April 3, 2003, at 11:18 AM, Ben Barnard wrote:
> >
> > > I'm wondering what the requirements for a 1.0 release of PHP 
> > iCalendar
> > > are. Some people have expressed a desire to reach that milestone, 
> > but I
> > > can't find anything online that lays out what will constitute such a
> > > release.
> > >
> > > Ben
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Re: [PHPiCalendar-DEV] What are the requirements for a 1.0 release?

[Mike T. <mt...@ya...>]

FTP would work for me, it just seems odd. I believe that any hosting site that accepts file uploads would accept unlink (with the modifications I mentioned in a previous post).
But, whatever. I'll make the modifications. Right now, the modifications I have on my list for the 'admin' to be release quality are:
- remove username & password from config & use ftp to write/delete files
- make 5 fields for simultaneous calendar upload
- change delete dropbox into checkboxes so multiple ones can be deleted in one step
- remove javascript confirm
That sound right? If so, I'll have that done tonight. Would you prefer a patch off of the original, or off of the current cvs?
mike
 Chad <ch...@ch...> wrote:Because its a more secure authentication and the current 
implementationof unlink in CVS does not work on my computer. What if 
the file is outside Apache? How will unlink delete it then if it 
doesn't have file persmissions to do so? Not to mention the number of 
web hosts out there who do not support unlink via the php.ini file.

We need to focus on the broadest support range, and right now that is 
FTP. I know it is not the solution that works best for you, but we need 
to think about *every* installation.

-C

On Thursday, April 3, 2003, at 11:52 AM, Mike Traum wrote:

> I'm still confused about the ftp upload / deletion. Why do we need to 
> use the ftp server when we have direct access to the filesystem via 
> php? It seems analogous to using a ftp client/server on your pc 
> instead of mac's finder / windows' explorer.
>
> mike
>
>  Chad wrote:
>
> Well its been coved in previous emails only, not really posted
> anywhere. Obviously this has changed so I'll make a new one:
>
> Zero bugs in SourceForge
> Timezones in prefs page
> FTP upload / deletion via admin page
> Completion of 0.9.2
> Multiple calendars?
>
>
> After 0.9.2, I'd like to get a 1.0 beta out, wait about 2 weeks on
> bugs, then release 1.0 at zero bugs.
> The bugs are what are holding a solid release right now (that and the
> incomplete features for 0.9.2).
>
> -Chad
>
>
> On Thursday, April 3, 2003, at 11:18 AM, Ben Barnard wrote:
>
> > I'm wondering what the requirements for a 1.0 release of PHP 
> iCalendar
> > are. Some people have expressed a desire to reach that milestone, 
> but I
> > can't find anything online that lays out what will constitute such a
> > release.
> >
> > Ben
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [PHPiCalendar-DEV] What are the requirements for a 1.0 release?

[Cory B. <pi...@hi...>]

On Thu, 2003-04-03 at 12:32, Chad wrote:
> Well its been coved in previous emails only, not really posted 
> anywhere. Obviously this has changed so I'll make a new one:
> 
> FTP upload / deletion via admin page

If someone wants to explain how this would work I could provide a page 
via php where you can upload / manage calendars.

Here is how I imagine that it would work...

1. This area is password protected using htaccess

2. Provide a way for users to upload a maximum of X calendars
   via a file upload form on a website.

3. Provide a way to view uploaded calendars and remove them.

I can do all of this w/out mysql ssince I think that is the
goal of the project. Alternatively I could build this feature
using mysql.

Is any of this done or should I get something together. Any guidance
is appreciated. I could have something like this finished by the end
of the upcoming weekend...

Thanks,

-Cory

Re: [PHPiCalendar-DEV] What are the requirements for a 1.0 release?

[Mike T. <mt...@ya...>]

This (in beta form) already exists in CVS. Take a look and help us make it better!
mike
 Cory Bertsch <pi...@hi...> wrote:On Thu, 2003-04-03 at 12:32, Chad wrote:
> Well its been coved in previous emails only, not really posted 
> anywhere. Obviously this has changed so I'll make a new one:
> 
> FTP upload / deletion via admin page

If someone wants to explain how this would work I could provide a page 
via php where you can upload / manage calendars.

Here is how I imagine that it would work...

1. This area is password protected using htaccess

2. Provide a way for users to upload a maximum of X calendars
via a file upload form on a website.

3. Provide a way to view uploaded calendars and remove them.

I can do all of this w/out mysql ssince I think that is the
goal of the project. Alternatively I could build this feature
using mysql.

Is any of this done or should I get something together. Any guidance
is appreciated. I could have something like this finished by the end
of the upcoming weekend...

Thanks,

-Cory



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