Re: [PHPiCalendar-DEV] update

[Chad L. <ch...@ch...>]

I guess I don't understand why we'd switch template engines,  
confusing longtime users (and the templates they have already made),  
for minimal added benefit. I also don't know why we'd add  
dependencies into PHP iCalendar (checking for pear, etc) that could  
introduce bugs or other unknown issues.

I know there is still HTML in the template engine, and it was always  
my goal to pull it completely out, unfortunately I didn't have then  
time needed to complete that area and spent it on getting everything  
moved over.

-C


On May 21, 2005, at 5:47 PM, da...@d2... wrote:

> Hmm, okay. What can I do to convince you otherwise?  
> HTML_TEMPLATE_IT is
> veeery similar to what's already happening, but with two benefits - a
> standardized way of doing the template code, and simpler "loop"  
> support,
> which currently is done in a bunch of different ways, including  
> having the
> html included in the php code which lessens the usefulness of the
> template. If I rewrote draw_day/day.tmpl to show you the difference  
> (and
> gave you some performance numbers, which should be roughly the same or
> maybe even better)?
>
>
>> We're not really interested in a templating add-on that would require
>> PEAR or Smarty. Smarty is bloated and really overkill for the
>> project. Writing our own template engine presented a way to provide
>> the fastest method of displaying content and allowing users to tweak
>> the code with little php knowledge.
>>
>> -C
>>
>>
>> On May 21, 2005, at 11:12 AM, da...@d2... wrote:
>>
>>
>>>> David Fallon wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Ugh, the switch to not using forms openevent stuff was a can o'
>>>>> worms.
>>>>> This would be vastly easier if we used a real template system -
>>>>> is there
>>>>> a reason we're not using one of the template classes from PEAR?
>>>>> (http://pear.php.net/manual/en/package.html.php) I've used
>>>>> HTML_TEMPLATE_IT, and it works well and the syntax is almost
>>>>> identical
>>>>> (in the template) to what's already there. The code syntax is
>>>>> significantly different, of course, since all the "hard work" (the
>>>>> various regexes all over the place) is abstracted out for you. :)
>>>>> While
>>>>> I should learn my lesson after diving into this rewrite, I  
>>>>> volunteer
>>>>> myself to do the switchover if I get approval. This, of course,  
>>>>> is a
>>>>> fairly serious rewrite, but continues my "less code" mantra.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Have you had a look at smarty.php.net? We used to use
>>>> HTML_TEMPLATE_IT
>>>> but smarty has some neat features such as caching that make things
>>>> faster and other nifty features that make templating easier
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> I haven't looked at it much, but I will take a closer look. In my
>>> brief 5
>>> sec. glance after your email, two concerns jumped out - the  
>>> syntax is
>>> decently different than the existing template stuff in phpicalendar
>>> (while
>>> html_template_it is almost identical), and it's not integrated into
>>> php/pear, meaning we'd have to have an additional install
>>> requirement. The
>>> second one being the bigger of the two, since I'd definitely  
>>> recommend
>>> staying away from any additional install requirements.
>>>
>>>
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