phpgedview-talk

[Phpgedview-talk] hello -- intro

[Laura E. <le...@ca...>]

Greetings all --
I am new to this list, which doesn't seem to be very active lately, but 
hopefully someone will read and answer my mail.

My name is Laura Eaves and last year (believe it or not) I embarked on my 
own project to do just what PHPGedView appears to have done already.  After 
working a year on my website -- which is implemented with PHP and mysql -- a 
friend sent me an email yesterday about this group.  I went and read all 
your info and have decided to put aside what I was doing and join your 
group.  Even though I lost a year of work, I do not regret what I 
accomplished on my site, which is not finished by any means -- in the 
process I learned a lot about php and web programming, which may make it 
possible for me to contribute to this project technically as time goes on.

As for my background, I was a math and computer science major back in the 
80s and worked a number of years as a software developer, but have been a 
home body for several years now.

I am the person in charge of setting up a website for the Eaves Family 
National Association, and after some discussion, concluded that something 
php based that would work with paf and gedcom files would be most useful.
When I came upon your project, what a surprise it was that what you have 
done is exactly what I envisioned. I can't believe I didn't find it before, 
but I was not subscribed to sourceforge and just didn't hear about it. 
Obviously you being 12 or more people can accomplish more in 5 years than 1 
person can in 1 year...:)

Anyway, I should mention that I am legally blind -- ad in fact lately I am 
no longer able to see the computer screen and so use a screen reader to do 
my work.  (For the uninitiated, a screen reader is software that allows a 
blind person to navigate the screen with the keyboard and the software 
speaks what is on the screen.  It also can control a refreshable braille 
display device for those who use braille.)

Because of the blindness issue, I am wondering if you have other blind users 
on the list and whether your user interface is accessible -- that is, 
compatible with the major screen readers on the market...

Since the interface is generated by php I assume it is accessible, as php is 
usually not used in interfaces that contain animations and other features 
that trip up my software.

I have been trying to get to a place where I can download phpgedview but so 
far my browser is blocking the download.  Is there a simple way to download 
the latest release? I am so anxious to take a look at it!

Anyway, that's my intro! Hope to year from others on the list!
--le 

Re: [Phpgedview-talk] hello -- intro

[waldo k. <wki...@al...>]

first, i see that this has been selected to go to both the original message 
writer and to the list... i don't know why thunderbird has done that but if it 
is a default setting in the list and indicated by the headers, it may explain 
why this list appears to be so quiet...

anyway, i'm going to leave it as is so that the OP gets a copy of this message 
directly instead of having to wait for her to get back over to SF and wade thru 
the online messages...

Laura Eaves wrote:
> Greetings all --
> I am new to this list, which doesn't seem to be very active lately, but 
> hopefully someone will read and answer my mail.

yeah, it is a pretty quiet list and project...

> My name is Laura Eaves and last year (believe it or not) I embarked on my 
> own project to do just what PHPGedView appears to have done already.  After 
> working a year on my website -- which is implemented with PHP and mysql -- a 
> friend sent me an email yesterday about this group.  I went and read all 
> your info and have decided to put aside what I was doing and join your 
> group.  Even though I lost a year of work, I do not regret what I 
> accomplished on my site, which is not finished by any means -- in the 
> process I learned a lot about php and web programming, which may make it 
> possible for me to contribute to this project technically as time goes on.

i wouldn't say that you've lost a year of work... you mention interfacing with 
paf and i'm wondering if you mean paf's data files directly instead of having to 
use gedcom as an intermediate transfer method... also, with what you've done, 
you may have other ideas that could be implemented and you may be able to 
contribute to the project by coding and presenting those mods to the maintainers...

i'd love to see something that could interface with paf as well as be able to 
display and be worked with via the web... "we" prefer to work with paf and in 
its environment and would embrace having a web interface that others could 
access for preusal or editing if they've been granted those capabilities...

> Because of the blindness issue, I am wondering if you have other blind users 
> on the list and whether your user interface is accessible -- that is, 
> compatible with the major screen readers on the market...

i'm not personally aware of any other blind members of the pgpgedview community...

> Since the interface is generated by php I assume it is accessible, as php is 
> usually not used in interfaces that contain animations and other features 
> that trip up my software.

right... the only place that i'm immediately aware of possible problems is 
obviously in the use of graphics... hopefully all the graphics carry ALT text so 
that you can see them by their words...

> I have been trying to get to a place where I can download phpgedview but so 
> far my browser is blocking the download.  Is there a simple way to download 
> the latest release? I am so anxious to take a look at it!

i feel your frustration, laura... i remember when i was new to sourceforge and 
how convoluted things seemed... SF has mirror sites all over the world to held 
spread the load... this is especially true for the files stored for 
downloading... SF looks at your IP number and attempts to send you to a server 
close to you for downloading files... personally, i've had problems with this 
over the years as they always want to try to force me to virginia since i'm in 
north carolina... the problem with this is that i'm some 15 hops from their site 
in VA whereas i'm only 4 or 5 from other places like the university of 
minnesota's mirror... once they direct you to a mirror, then it is a matter of 
waiting for the download to start automatically... generally this is ok unless 
you have protections in place to prevent popups and other cruft that the 
internet has become infested with...

when going to download, you also have to select the filename in the chart and 
not any of the other references linked to it... some are changelogs, readmes, 
documentation, statistics, and more...

anyway, here's a direct link to the full version of the latest release... this 
archive also contains all the additional languages so that visitors from other 
places can read your site's interface in their native language...

http://umn.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/phpgedview/phpGedView-4.0.2-all.zip



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Re: [Phpgedview-talk] hello -- intro

[John F. <Joh...@ne...>]

Hi Laura,

Welcome to the project community.  This mailing list is not very active.
Most of the activity is on the project forums:
https://sourceforge.net/forum/?group_id=3D55456

You should be able to download files from here:
https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=3D55456

Since you have been involved in PHP development, you might be interested
in checking out the project from subversion:=20
https://sourceforge.net/svn/?group_id=3D55456

The project repository is:
https://phpgedview.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/phpgedview/trunk/phpGedVi
ew

--John
PhpGedView Project Manager

> -----Original Message-----
> From: php...@li...
[mailto:phpgedview-
> tal...@li...] On Behalf Of Laura Eaves
> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 12:36 AM
> To: php...@li...
> Subject: [Phpgedview-talk] hello -- intro
>=20
> Greetings all --
> I am new to this list, which doesn't seem to be very active lately,
but
> hopefully someone will read and answer my mail.
>=20
> My name is Laura Eaves and last year (believe it or not) I embarked on
> my
> own project to do just what PHPGedView appears to have done already.
> After
> working a year on my website -- which is implemented with PHP and
mysql
> -- a
> friend sent me an email yesterday about this group.  I went and read
> all
> your info and have decided to put aside what I was doing and join your
> group.  Even though I lost a year of work, I do not regret what I
> accomplished on my site, which is not finished by any means -- in the
> process I learned a lot about php and web programming, which may make
> it
> possible for me to contribute to this project technically as time goes
> on.
>=20
> As for my background, I was a math and computer science major back in
> the
> 80s and worked a number of years as a software developer, but have
been
> a
> home body for several years now.
>=20
> I am the person in charge of setting up a website for the Eaves Family
> National Association, and after some discussion, concluded that
> something
> php based that would work with paf and gedcom files would be most
> useful.
> When I came upon your project, what a surprise it was that what you
> have
> done is exactly what I envisioned. I can't believe I didn't find it
> before,
> but I was not subscribed to sourceforge and just didn't hear about it.
> Obviously you being 12 or more people can accomplish more in 5 years
> than 1
> person can in 1 year...:)
>=20
> Anyway, I should mention that I am legally blind -- ad in fact lately
I
> am
> no longer able to see the computer screen and so use a screen reader
to
> do
> my work.  (For the uninitiated, a screen reader is software that
allows
> a
> blind person to navigate the screen with the keyboard and the software
> speaks what is on the screen.  It also can control a refreshable
> braille
> display device for those who use braille.)
>=20
> Because of the blindness issue, I am wondering if you have other blind
> users
> on the list and whether your user interface is accessible -- that is,
> compatible with the major screen readers on the market...
>=20
> Since the interface is generated by php I assume it is accessible, as
> php is
> usually not used in interfaces that contain animations and other
> features
> that trip up my software.
>=20
> I have been trying to get to a place where I can download phpgedview
> but so
> far my browser is blocking the download.  Is there a simple way to
> download
> the latest release? I am so anxious to take a look at it!
>=20
> Anyway, that's my intro! Hope to year from others on the list!
> --le
>=20
>=20
>
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