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#1032 IsDead of Ancestors and Siblings

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2008-09-08
2008-09-08
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When we flag an individual as dead and he does not have end of life facts, it would be great if we could also mark his ancestors and siblings as dead, when they do not have end of life facts.

The siblings should only be marked as dead if they do fall into a not IsDead cathegory because of their BIRT, MARR, spouse's, children's or grandchildren's records.

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  • Anonymous

    Anonymous - 2008-09-08

    Meliza, can you explain further as I don't quite understand your point.

    Surely if we are marking one individual as dead on a set of criteria, then we must also be doing the same for all others with the same criteria, whether they are related to him or not.

    What is the relevance of them being his ancestors and siblings? Surely you are not suggesting that becasue John Smith is calculated to be dead, then his younger brother Joe Smith must also be markes as dead? That is what it reads like.

     
  • Meliza Amity

    Meliza Amity - 2008-09-08

    Kiwi, thanks for highlighting the error in my logic.

    I saw on my site families where the children were shown to visitors (they were automatically marked as dead by PGV) but their parents and grandparents were shown as private. If the children reached the default death age when people are assumed dead (on my site 105 years), then normally the patents and other ancestors have reached this age.

    Then I thought also about siblings, especially siblings of ancestors who will be automatically marked as dead because of this request. You are correct that the siblings of the person who reaches the default death age should not be automatically marked as dead.

    We have other rare cases where live individuals are marked as dead. For example the case where an older man (whose birth date is known) marries a young woman. PGV will automatically mark him as dead when he reaches the age when a person is considered dead.
    If she is defined without any dates, PGV will also mark her as dead.

    I do not know what will happen to IsDead flags when the GEDCOM is only updated online. We should check again if people should be marked as dead or as not yet dead. The program documentation indicates that individuals are checked only once.

    Meliza

     
  • waldo kitty

    waldo kitty - 2008-10-01

    ahhh! [complete rewrite] i see what you are saying and it does make sense... it also sounds like the "hard-coded 120" "bug" that appears to have been fixed in several areas and i just reported for v4.1.5rel in at least one more area in the last month or so...

    in other words, you are using 105 as the total years alive but the code assumes, in some places, 120 years... most of these have been fixed but there may still be a few where this hardcoding remains... now it is just up to someone to find these entries since v4.1.5rel ;)

     
  • Greg Roach

    Greg Roach - 2009-01-12

    1) I don't believe there are any remaining "hard-coded" values for the MAX_ALIVE_AGE.

    2) Given Nigel's comments, do we want to close this request?

     
  • Meliza Amity

    Meliza Amity - 2009-01-12

    Nigel's comment?

    Are we sure that PGV intends to fill isdead to parents who do not have any dates?

    I doubt that my request has anything to do with a hardcoded 120.

    Meliza

     

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