I am planning a trip to a library __several hours ways __for a particular branch that I am currently researching BUT I realise that there are/must be other indis/fams in other branches that I could be researching in the area at the same time.
The thing is that I don't quite know how to bring those indis/fams to my attention, or to print them out in a list or something.
As I see it, details such as place name are only entered AFTER you have confirmed them, and what I am wanting to do is instead try and confirm places/facts so that I can enter them into the database.
Therefore if I search the Place hierarchy I am only going to get a list of events that I already know happened.
Is there a way of doing what I want?
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Dear ??
I've read your inquiry three times and I am most confused. If locations are something you don't know, then how could PGV interpret anything for you relative to a place?
If you are looking for particular relations on particular names, then perhaps BRANCHES will be of help, otherwise, only the FAM List or the INDI list, by name.
Why not take your laptop to the library? They nearly all have internet connections now (most have WIFI) and you can always load your gedcom in a local site, hosted on your laptop, for easy offline reference.
Stephen
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Well that is what I am wondering. I don't know if there is a way to get the information out. I just know that I have seen the 'Research Assistant:Missing Information" and it makes suggestions of where to find information.
I also am away of their being a google map component able to be integrated into PHPGedView.
So I was thinking that perhaps there was a way to combine a path or pattern of behaviour (ie Miss X was born here and married Mr Y here so perhaps search for her children or her death here) with a localisation on a map or by regional reference.
It is really hard for me to travel so I want to be able to do as much as possible and not come home and then stumble across another fact I could have sourced for an un-related indi/fam to my main current focus, that's all.
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If you are asking for google maps to be integrated into PGV, it has been included and works very well. Search the "Help" feature on this SourceForge site for details of setup and use. A lot of people use it.
I've also been very successful using PGV locally on a laptop when WiFi is not available. Of course, google maps will not work without a WiFi connection but PGV works great never the less.
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Pilgrims, I would simply do a search on the placename of where you're going to be. If I was going to Spalding County, TX, I would search on Spalding and make a list of all families and individuals that show up. Knorway's idea is good too but you don't have to use PGV, you could export your gedcom and pull it up in any genealogy program and run your searches from it right on the spot. I've done this when visiting the Georgia Archives and had a lot of success. I took my notes and transcriptions in a simple notepad file and uploaded them to PGV when I was back home.
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Sorry, maybe I misread, but you guys may be missing Pilgrims point. He does NOT have many PLAC tags, so there is no way for PGV to guess at a location by association with another INDI-FAM. He wanted to know if there was anything intuitive enough to make a supposition. The correct answer, I believe, is NO.
-Stephen
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@kfnordan, yes, I have just activated google maps within pgv and am setting about trying to understand how it works.
vhhawk, that would be fine except that where a specific town is not know and therefore not entered, the country is the next and only hierarchy that gets entered. We have no states, otherwise that would have been a great suggestion.
Perhaps from here in in, I could use the 'Notes' to record my thoughts on where to look for missing information, but how do I 'search' or get a list of notes with content="placename" ?
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Is there a way to take just part of the GEDCOM ''out'/offline to work on and replace it again to the online site when finished with this genealogical road-trip?
ie there are others working on the site, and I don't want to tell them they can't do anything to it for a week as that would quench their enthusiasm.
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Sorry, not really. Of course you could always use a merging program like genmerge when you return, but they all are notoriously unreliable. Additions to the existing gedcom are easy - simply start at a new INDI number much higher than your current users will reach before you add on your efforts, and you can then simply add yours. If there are a few tie-ins to existing, you can merge these within PGV.
Again, I can't imagine that your library will not have Internet access available.
Stephen
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Thought you may appreciate some feedback. I didn't end up taking a snippet or the gedcom offline for the trip. I did have others make updates to the database whilst I was away. One of the places that I went did have complementary internet access - all others did not, which made it quite hard. What I found is that I worked a lot more off printed out family reports, where I could scribble down ideas etc, reports saved previously as pdfs, and took photocopies of information to process later etc.
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I am planning a trip to a library __several hours ways __for a particular branch that I am currently researching BUT I realise that there are/must be other indis/fams in other branches that I could be researching in the area at the same time.
The thing is that I don't quite know how to bring those indis/fams to my attention, or to print them out in a list or something.
As I see it, details such as place name are only entered AFTER you have confirmed them, and what I am wanting to do is instead try and confirm places/facts so that I can enter them into the database.
Therefore if I search the Place hierarchy I am only going to get a list of events that I already know happened.
Is there a way of doing what I want?
oops 'several hours away'
Dear ??
I've read your inquiry three times and I am most confused. If locations are something you don't know, then how could PGV interpret anything for you relative to a place?
If you are looking for particular relations on particular names, then perhaps BRANCHES will be of help, otherwise, only the FAM List or the INDI list, by name.
Why not take your laptop to the library? They nearly all have internet connections now (most have WIFI) and you can always load your gedcom in a local site, hosted on your laptop, for easy offline reference.
Stephen
Well that is what I am wondering. I don't know if there is a way to get the information out. I just know that I have seen the 'Research Assistant:Missing Information" and it makes suggestions of where to find information.
I also am away of their being a google map component able to be integrated into PHPGedView.
So I was thinking that perhaps there was a way to combine a path or pattern of behaviour (ie Miss X was born here and married Mr Y here so perhaps search for her children or her death here) with a localisation on a map or by regional reference.
It is really hard for me to travel so I want to be able to do as much as possible and not come home and then stumble across another fact I could have sourced for an un-related indi/fam to my main current focus, that's all.
If you are asking for google maps to be integrated into PGV, it has been included and works very well. Search the "Help" feature on this SourceForge site for details of setup and use. A lot of people use it.
I've also been very successful using PGV locally on a laptop when WiFi is not available. Of course, google maps will not work without a WiFi connection but PGV works great never the less.
Pilgrims, I would simply do a search on the placename of where you're going to be. If I was going to Spalding County, TX, I would search on Spalding and make a list of all families and individuals that show up. Knorway's idea is good too but you don't have to use PGV, you could export your gedcom and pull it up in any genealogy program and run your searches from it right on the spot. I've done this when visiting the Georgia Archives and had a lot of success. I took my notes and transcriptions in a simple notepad file and uploaded them to PGV when I was back home.
Sorry, maybe I misread, but you guys may be missing Pilgrims point. He does NOT have many PLAC tags, so there is no way for PGV to guess at a location by association with another INDI-FAM. He wanted to know if there was anything intuitive enough to make a supposition. The correct answer, I believe, is NO.
-Stephen
@kfnordan, yes, I have just activated google maps within pgv and am setting about trying to understand how it works.
vhhawk, that would be fine except that where a specific town is not know and therefore not entered, the country is the next and only hierarchy that gets entered. We have no states, otherwise that would have been a great suggestion.
Perhaps from here in in, I could use the 'Notes' to record my thoughts on where to look for missing information, but how do I 'search' or get a list of notes with content="placename" ?
pilgrims, You don't need states to do PLAC tags. The tags can be changed for your site by adding a:
in the 0 HEAD record. FORM card can be anything you want. I use "Place" as the location, "City" ….
If you don't have a layer in your FORMate use an extra "," for each position as a "place holder"
Is there a way to take just part of the GEDCOM ''out'/offline to work on and replace it again to the online site when finished with this genealogical road-trip?
ie there are others working on the site, and I don't want to tell them they can't do anything to it for a week as that would quench their enthusiasm.
Sorry, not really. Of course you could always use a merging program like genmerge when you return, but they all are notoriously unreliable. Additions to the existing gedcom are easy - simply start at a new INDI number much higher than your current users will reach before you add on your efforts, and you can then simply add yours. If there are a few tie-ins to existing, you can merge these within PGV.
Again, I can't imagine that your library will not have Internet access available.
Stephen
Thought you may appreciate some feedback. I didn't end up taking a snippet or the gedcom offline for the trip. I did have others make updates to the database whilst I was away. One of the places that I went did have complementary internet access - all others did not, which made it quite hard. What I found is that I worked a lot more off printed out family reports, where I could scribble down ideas etc, reports saved previously as pdfs, and took photocopies of information to process later etc.