Need a little help. I wanted to hide media items unless you register. I went to privacy settings and selected MEDI and OBJE tags both facts and fact details and only authenticated users. When I go to site and do not login, if I select say pedigree tree, no photos are now there. That is correct. But if I go to lists and select MultiMedia, it shows the media. I have selected no living if not registered, so no living photos are shown, but I want is so no media is shown if not registered user. Am I missing a setting to use for this. PGV 4.2.2.
thanks,
doc
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Anonymous
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2009-10-25
Doc, I think all you have done is (almost) correct, and is the limit of PGVs design.
Media generally has been designed to be protected by the same rules as the people on your tree. So, if the person is hidden by privacy, then any media attached to that person (even if its also attached to a living person) will be hidden. That will, ASFAIK, also apply to the Media List.
Beyond that, the 'normal' protections applied are: moving the media folder out of accessible web space, adding a watermark to the main image, and if you want, to the thumbnails (for un-registered users).
What is your aim in going further than these steps?
The reason your method doesn't work is that the Media List doesn't uses the OBJE tag. Thats is only used in INDI records.
The only alternative I can think of for you would be a code hack to add a check on the Media List menu item, preventing it from appearing to un-registered users.
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Not to hijack Doc's thread, but I am starting to feel some synchrony with his wishes. A dismaying amount of photos and narratives from my PGV site is showing up on Ancestry's user-trees, all without sourcing or credits. I'm not the owner or copyright-owner of most of these photos, but I do feel a sense of proprietorship towards them. Is watermarking the best current solution we have at this point?
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Anonymous
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2009-10-26
Watermarking AND moving your media folder out of web-accessible space (using media firewall).
Or of course you can lock your whole site down to registered users only. Personally I think its overkill. If you / we were really worried about media items, you would never put them onto the internet. There is NO way, once they are on the WWW, that you can 100% protect them.
On the issue of copyright in media items, as record companies know to their cost, the only way to protect your copyright is to vigorously pursue those that infringe it. So if you see your media appearing on ancestry without your permission, complain to the person using it. If you're not prepared to do that, the the copyright is meaningless, nothing better than a warning you don't intend following up on.
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Need a little help. I wanted to hide media items unless you register. I went to privacy settings and selected MEDI and OBJE tags both facts and fact details and only authenticated users. When I go to site and do not login, if I select say pedigree tree, no photos are now there. That is correct. But if I go to lists and select MultiMedia, it shows the media. I have selected no living if not registered, so no living photos are shown, but I want is so no media is shown if not registered user. Am I missing a setting to use for this. PGV 4.2.2.
thanks,
doc
Doc, I think all you have done is (almost) correct, and is the limit of PGVs design.
Media generally has been designed to be protected by the same rules as the people on your tree. So, if the person is hidden by privacy, then any media attached to that person (even if its also attached to a living person) will be hidden. That will, ASFAIK, also apply to the Media List.
Beyond that, the 'normal' protections applied are: moving the media folder out of accessible web space, adding a watermark to the main image, and if you want, to the thumbnails (for un-registered users).
What is your aim in going further than these steps?
The reason your method doesn't work is that the Media List doesn't uses the OBJE tag. Thats is only used in INDI records.
The only alternative I can think of for you would be a code hack to add a check on the Media List menu item, preventing it from appearing to un-registered users.
Not to hijack Doc's thread, but I am starting to feel some synchrony with his wishes. A dismaying amount of photos and narratives from my PGV site is showing up on Ancestry's user-trees, all without sourcing or credits. I'm not the owner or copyright-owner of most of these photos, but I do feel a sense of proprietorship towards them. Is watermarking the best current solution we have at this point?
Watermarking AND moving your media folder out of web-accessible space (using media firewall).
Or of course you can lock your whole site down to registered users only. Personally I think its overkill. If you / we were really worried about media items, you would never put them onto the internet. There is NO way, once they are on the WWW, that you can 100% protect them.
On the issue of copyright in media items, as record companies know to their cost, the only way to protect your copyright is to vigorously pursue those that infringe it. So if you see your media appearing on ancestry without your permission, complain to the person using it. If you're not prepared to do that, the the copyright is meaningless, nothing better than a warning you don't intend following up on.