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Hello,
I installed phpGedView here
http://whealton.info/ourAncestry/
I click on Request a New Account and nothing happens. It just loads the same page. I can try to install the software again. Please see what happens for you when you go there.
Any suggestions as to what I should do?
Bruce
Re-installing is not likely to help, although I see you are already doing that.
Check that you have the correct permissions on the /index/ older. It and all its sub-ffolders and files need full read/write (777) permissions.
No, that didn't do it? I changed that to 777 with recurse into subdirectories and still it isn't allowing registration.
Bruce
Hello BW -
My vist to the link you provide above takes me to the Install routine for PGV.
You will need your DataBase "credentials" to continue setting up your PGV install at this point.
Please report back on your success.
RL
New install had all the right permissions but the same problem. It just takes one to the login page. There should be a page asking for the new user to create a username/pw and etc.
Bruce
I put a new install here:
http://whealton.info/ourGenealogy/
because when I tried to put it here:
http://whealton.info/ourAncestry/
It kept redirecting to
http://whealton.info/myAncestry/
even after I removed the redirect. I guess this could be a server issue. My server does have the necessary requirements when I did a phpinfo.php check to see what php version I have: 5.2.11, which can be verified here:
http://whealton.info/phpinfo.php
So, I don't know what to do.
Bruce
Check the SERVER_URL setting in your config.php file.
It probably needs to be empty.
Hello BW-
You are now setup at both links you provide above. Keep in mind you must first login as the Admin, as there are a few more steps you need to setup before you begin accepting users to your PGV site (of choice :). Here is a link to the **PGV Install Guide ** http://wiki.phpgedview.net/en/index.php?title=Installation_Guide_v4.2.x to help you through these remaining tasks.
Good Luck and Welcome to PGV !
RL
I'm confused. I was looking at the installation guide and it seems that I did everything. I'm confused. :-(. I setup the admin user, for me. Then it says to set the permissions on config.php to not allow it to be writeable. Does that mean that the setting should be 555. I don't have shell access, so I just unchecked the write permission for everyone. I've actually tried unchecking each one at a time and tried numerous combinations. I'm still getting the same result that when you click on Register for an Account, it just reloads the same page.
After that in the guide, the installation guide it just mentions the License and that is under Post Install Tasks and Configuration but it doesn't say to do anything; it just tells about the license.
Maybe I should let someone login to see if I missed something. I know that there were some fields that were blank during the installation, when I clicked on different tabs and these were not described in the Installation Guide. I guess I figured there were default values.
Do I have to first create a Gedcom before anyone can register?
When I click on Add a Gedcom or Create a Gedcom, it first asks for a name and path. I don't know what to put there. I don't really know if this has anything to do with allowing others to register.
Would each person's gedcom, every user's gedcom be in it's own folder? Does the User Guide describe this?
Sorry that I am not getting this. It's embarrassing.
Bruce
There's the answer - yes you do, because part of the registration process is to determine whcih GEDCOM each user should be registered for access to (even if you only have one).
Now to your other points. There is (normally) only one GEDCOM file - it is your family tree. SOunds like you don't have one from elsewhere to import, so you need to create one from scratch. Here are instructions on how to do that:
http://wiki.phpgedview.net/en/index.php?title=Create_a_new_GEDCOM
Once thats done you can start adding users. But presumably you'll want at least the start of a tree first, otherwise what would your users look at??
Hello Bruce -
Not to worrry. i see parts of your confusion also. We were all "noobs" at this at one point, so let's take it to the next step.
<Then it says to set the permissions on config.php to not allow it to be writeable. Does that mean that the setting should be 555. I don't have shell access, so I just unchecked the write permission for everyone.>
1. You are correct, as the Install Guide has been updated a bit since the last time I printed it. As far as the permissions go, it may be that 555 is as low as you can go. The main thing is that "Apache" (your web-server) cannot write to this file again. On permissions, this sometimes shows as "Owner" or as "Apache" for the file. You are OK as long as you do not see a Red Warning message about making Config.php un-writable when you log into the Admin interface.
But, right below this step in the Guide is a link to the next step - Add a GEDCOM - http://wiki.phpgedview.net/en/index.php?title=Add_a_GEDCOM .
2. <Do I have to first create a Gedcom before anyone can register?> Essentially, Yes. You just have thw website structure set up at this point. You (Admin) can log in, but your database is blank. If you have already been tracking your family genealogy in some desktop software you can get a "GED" from there. Just do a File> Export As> GEDCOM for the data you wish to start off with in PGV. Or if you have none, you can start a new GED in PGV from within the Administration GUI. The default path is to your /Index folder within the path where you installed PGV.
If you'd like, you can FTP and existing GED file into this folder in advance. Just keep in mind whatever you name this file will also be displayed on the PGV "homepage" of your site. Thus if you want "Whealton Family" or "My whatever Group" to show under the PGV logo, that is how the file should be named. Just enter the name of the file (no path) whichever route you take.
3. <Would each person's gedcom, every user's gedcom be in it's own folder? Does the User Guide describe this?>
NO and No. Let me explain (briefly). The GEDCOM "format" (some would say "standard") provides a method of showing relationships of (many) people, linked by ancestry or marriage, etc. in a single file layout. The data from your GED will be imported into the databse you have set up and changes will be tracked there. (You can always download the GED again from PGV for sharing or offline editing, but why do that when you now have PGV?) Any way, you can also have more than one GED accessible on your site if you like, but that is a bit more advanced than what a basic PGV install is used for. Everyone in your GED will live happily in this one file, and no other folders are created in the process. You can find a lot more about the existing (and possible revisons of the GEDCOM format) with a simple Google search. It is also discussed briefly on "Add a GEDCOM" in the Wiki.
BTW - You still have two sites set up, one at http://…/ourGenealogy and one at http://…/myAncestry. I would recommend you choose which one you will use going forward as they are probably tied to the same database. This might cause great confusion for your users (and possible data corruption) if you add your GED now and decide to switch later on.
All the Best, and again - welcome.
RL
Correction -
<Thus if you want "Whealton Family" or "My whatever Group" to show under the PGV logo, that is how the file should be named.>
The GED file name should NOT have spaces in it. (Web servers don't like spaces anyway!) I should have referred to the "GEDCOM Tile" field in my statement above . A proper example is shown on the Wiki pages about GEDCOMs.
Thanks RL and kiwi_pgv. One clarification. The whole idea is to get collaboration… others to share their data. For example, if I have a relative come and she uploads her GED after I created mine what will happen? You said that having "another GED is not exactly what what a basic install is used for." In fact, her GED does overlap in names. I had tried another type of GED/Genealogy software for online websites - similar to this but different - and it made merging GEDs complicated and unreliable. I wanted to invite her to join right after my site is able to do so. That is the purpose, or one of them, for setting up this kind of site. Being able to collect, organize and share data is another purpose, but I like the ability to collaborate and share information and names/relationships among other's trees. So, the first thought of mine, is to invite this person to join my site and to share her data. She has the same Whealtons (and others) the same people in her trees - or in her GED. Should I have her upload her GED using the system? Or create her tree by uploading names, families, etc. into my GED? At some point, our trees merge and become one. So, I really could use advice on this. This is a very important thing that I want to do with this software. Since our trees become one at some point, clearly this can be done but I don't want to mess things up by having her import her own separate GED. I'll be anxious to hear your thoughts and advice.
And then there is the situation of someone joining where the connections might be less apparent - the trees do not so clearly overlap. Perhaps we could deal with that later. I'll want to think of inviting others to join who might have different family trees that may overlap only slightly. I'll want to address that later and see if the software is right for that. For now, my first issue is inviting someone who has a very much overlapping family tree (though she does have it in her own GED) on my father's side of the family.
Thanks,
Bruce
Ok, so I created my GEDCOM and then checked from another browser to see if I could register and it still is just reloading the login page.
I should get rid of that other install too at: http://whealton.info/myGenealogy/ though I did create a new, unique database for it.
So, what remains to allow registration on my site?
Thanks,
Bruce
Bruce -
Seems you're getting the "knack" of this whole process pretty well now. Surely, PGV was designed for and is well suited for collaboration of this magnitude. When I mentioned "another GED", I was referring to using a second and entirely separate "family" for example. In my case, I had one for my Family and another of some "famous" people (US Presidents - and NO, no relationships found, thank goodness! ) Anyway, I would call this a "multi-GED" site just the same. Through "Relationships" and "Privacy" settings in the Administration GUI, you control "who gets to see what". You may have to fiddle and test various settings to get it to work the way you want, which is why I mentioned it as a "heads-up" before you went that route.
As far as your 2 GEDs now go, you would have to determine how (if) to "merge" or "link" them based on the quality and quantity of the data they contain. It may be that you start the site with one and manually enter the missing info from the other. For larger data sets, several "manual" methods have been detailed by other members who had this same issue.There have been many (recent) posts on "Merging" in the Help and Open Discussion forum. At the top of this page go to Forums> Search and type in your "topic" of interest and select the forum(s) name. (Ctrl+click gives multiple Forum choices.) You should also find an explanation of the "Linking" technique in the Adminsitrator's Guide on the Wiki.
In either case, I would suggest starting a new thread once you determine which route you will take as others will then be able to focus on that new topic and provide more assistance.
Remember, everything offered here in just one opinion. Y M M V. Congrats on getting a GED started on your New site !
RL
Bruce
Regarding "merging" GEDCOM files. This is a most complicated area.
It has attracted a huge amount of discussion on these pages, so before we launch into a lot of repetitive explanation, I also recommend you do a search here for 'merging". When you've read the many message threads on the subject come back again with a fresh topic.
This is weird. It seemed like it wasn't working for me. I even setup a new thread because I thought there was something seriously wrong with my installation. However, now it is working. I don't know what I did to make that work. I had created a GED and added my name but it didn't take the first time. I have no idea why.
So, now that I have my GEDCOM created, where do I go to add me first and then others?
I'll start a new thread after I get my relative to add her GEDCOM to the site. I'll probably manually add mine to hers as a way of merging things and then see if the system can do this for me or if there is a software way of doing things.
Thanks,
Bruce