I've always had my database synchronized but changed recently. Just went to run the gedcom check and was warned of this.
Great warning (it may not be new but new to me and was appreciated). Gives me chance to decide to do export or change back to sync. Now about the critical errors…. (LOL!)
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Anonymous
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2010-01-02
Mac, yes its invaluable if you don't sync your GEDCOM automatically. I was always forgetting, so I persuaded Greg to make that change a few months back.
Don't forget though, you need to export AFTER you make corrections as well, otherwise you'll think you haven't done them :-)
Nigel
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Hee, hee. I turned sync back on while doing my checking because I have the usual "no match" errors that usually take me longer to figure out fix. (I know the error tells me what's wrong but never get it right the first fix :)
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Told you I'd not get it right: (Apologies, not sure how to do single-spacing in the forum so the code will run on as one line)
FAMILY ONE
0 @F535@ FAM
1 HUSB @I947@
1 WIFE @I903@
1 MARR
2 SOUR @S203@
1 CHAN
2 DATE 01 JAN 2010
3 TIME 18:22:55
2 _PGVU admin
1 CHIL @I4139@
1 CHIL @I4554@
FAMILY TWO
0 @F1629@ FAM
1 HUSB @I3967@
1 WIFE @I4554@
1 CHAN
2 DATE 01 JAN 2010
3 TIME 18:24:28
2 _PGVU admin
1 CHIL @I3969@
1 CHIL @I3970@
1 MARR Y
2 SOUR @S482@
ERROR
0075423 1 NAME Fran /SMITH/
0075424 2 GIVN Fran
0075425 2 SURN SMITH
0075426 2 _MARNM Fran /JONES/
0075427 1 SEX F
0075428[] FAM @F1629@ does not link back; see INDI @I3968@
0075429 1 CHAN
0075430 2 DATE 28 SEP 2009
0075431 3 TIME 11:07:40
0075432 2 _PGV admin
0075433[] FAM @F535@ does not link back; see INDI @I3968@
0075434 0 @I948@ INDI
0075435 1 NAME Arthur /BROWN/
0075436 2 GIVN Arthur
0075437 2 SURN BROWN
0075438 1 BIRT
There is no I3968 in my Gedcom file, so not sure what error to fix.
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FAMILY ONE
0 @F535@ FAM
1 HUSB @I947@
1 WIFE @I903@
1 MARR
2 SOUR @S203@
1 CHAN
2 DATE 01 JAN 2010
3 TIME 18:22:55
2 _PGVU admin
1 CHIL @I4139@
1 CHIL @I4554@
FAMILY TWO
0 @F1629@ FAM
1 HUSB @I3967@
1 WIFE @I4554@
1 CHAN
2 DATE 01 JAN 2010
3 TIME 18:24:28
2 _PGVU admin
1 CHIL @I3969@
1 CHIL @I3970@
1 MARR Y
2 SOUR @S482@
ERROR
0075423 1 NAME Fran /SMITH/
0075424 2 GIVN Fran
0075425 2 SURN SMITH
0075426 2 _MARNM Fran /JONES/
0075427 1 SEX F
0075428[] FAM @F1629@ does not link back; see INDI @I3968@
0075429 1 CHAN
0075430 2 DATE 28 SEP 2009
0075431 3 TIME 11:07:40
0075432 2 _PGV admin
0075433[] FAM @F535@ does not link back; see INDI @I3968@
0075434 0 @I948@ INDI
0075435 1 NAME Arthur /BROWN/
0075436 2 GIVN Arthur
0075437 2 SURN BROWN
0075438 1 BIRT
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Does that mean next time I import/replace it shoud disappear? What's strange is
0075435 1 NAME Arthur /BROWN/
He has nothing to do with these two families.
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2010-01-02
> What's strange is
0075435 1 NAME Arthur /BROWN/
MAC, there's nothing strange about that. He just happens to be the next INDI record in the GEDCOM file. There's no particular order for GEDCOM file entries.
> Does that mean next time I import/replace it should disappear?
NO DO NOT IMPORT !!!
As Greg said, the 'error' INDI is in your file, not your database. If you import that file now you will introduce the error to your DB. You need to EXPORT now, to get a clean version of your GEDCOM file, then run gedcheck again to make sure the error has gone.
Just a thought. When you open GedCheck, there is a drop down to select the GEDCOM file. Are you SURE you are selecting the RIGHT file??? If you have multiple copies this would be a good time to clean out all but the latest exported version. Go to Admin, 'Clean up Index Directory, to delete unwanted and old files.
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Fantastic. Errors gone. One new one cropped up and was able to correct.
I think the source of my problem is undoing relationships. Somehow reference to the FAM remains. I go to the FAM record, and delete each person from Family then delete FAM if it needs to be.
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Anonymous
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2010-01-03
> Somehow reference to the FAM remains.
Not in the current version of PGV (or any for sometime) it doesn't - or at least I can't make that happen. More likely its related to frequent import / export; sync/un-sync type issues, with the occasionally incorrect RAW GEDCOM edit (not recently, but early on in your work).
If you delete a person from the family page, you ONLY delete them from the FAM record, but you will also delete their INDI FAMS or FAMC tag. They will still exist on your tree though.
If you want to completely remove a person, do it from their INDI page. That will remove the person, and ALL references to them everywhere.
I find it extremely rare to need to delete a FAM record. PGV automatically removes it as you remove the last member of it, in my experience.
MAC, can I, for your own "safety", recommend you leave auto-sync ON for now (but do an EXPORT immediately before turning it ON). Your GEDCOM is nowhere near large enough to benefit from having it turned off, and it will avoid any mis-match errors. It is also one less thing to worry about as you work with Gedcheck.
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kiwi: It was OFF relating to the Tracker fix I'm in the middle of. Normally I do leave it ON.
I thought deleting FAM when two people are connecting in error did remove the FAM reference in both their records. I don't want to lose the people, just their union. Hence why I did it from the FAM page. As I mentioned, even if the two people shouldn't be in my Gedcom, I just recycle later (my personal preference.)
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2010-01-03
> It was OFF relating to the Tracker fix I'm in the middle of. Normally I do leave it ON.
Thats good, but don't forget that turning it ON does NOT syncronise it. Do an EXPORT then turn it on.
> I thought deleting FAM when two people are connecting in error did remove the FAM reference in both their records.
Thats right, it does. But I was responding to your comment "I go to the FAM record, and delete each person from Family…"
Thats where I might have got confused about what you were doing.
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<QUOTE>Thats right, it does. But I was responding to your comment "I go to the FAM record, and delete each person from Family…"
Thats where I might have got confused about what you were doing.
That is what I do. Go to FAM record. Remove I123, remove I345. Delete FAM. Then I get the "Unable to find record with ID" and I go about my way.
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2010-01-03
> That is what I do. Go to FAM record. Remove I123, remove I345. Delete FAM. Then I get the "Unable to find record with ID" and I go about my way.
No need. Go to FAM page, Click on Edit - Delete Family. You will get a pop-up warning that says: "Deleting the family will unlink all of the individuals from each other but will leave the individuals in place. Are you sure you want to delete this family?"
Thats all you need to do.
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I've always had my database synchronized but changed recently. Just went to run the gedcom check and was warned of this.
Great warning (it may not be new but new to me and was appreciated). Gives me chance to decide to do export or change back to sync. Now about the critical errors…. (LOL!)
Mac, yes its invaluable if you don't sync your GEDCOM automatically. I was always forgetting, so I persuaded Greg to make that change a few months back.
Don't forget though, you need to export AFTER you make corrections as well, otherwise you'll think you haven't done them :-)
Nigel
Hee, hee. I turned sync back on while doing my checking because I have the usual "no match" errors that usually take me longer to figure out fix. (I know the error tells me what's wrong but never get it right the first fix :)
Told you I'd not get it right: (Apologies, not sure how to do single-spacing in the forum so the code will run on as one line)
FAMILY ONE
0 @F535@ FAM
1 HUSB @I947@
1 WIFE @I903@
1 MARR
2 SOUR @S203@
1 CHAN
2 DATE 01 JAN 2010
3 TIME 18:22:55
2 _PGVU admin
1 CHIL @I4139@
1 CHIL @I4554@
FAMILY TWO
0 @F1629@ FAM
1 HUSB @I3967@
1 WIFE @I4554@
1 CHAN
2 DATE 01 JAN 2010
3 TIME 18:24:28
2 _PGVU admin
1 CHIL @I3969@
1 CHIL @I3970@
1 MARR Y
2 SOUR @S482@
ERROR
0075423 1 NAME Fran /SMITH/
0075424 2 GIVN Fran
0075425 2 SURN SMITH
0075426 2 _MARNM Fran /JONES/
0075427 1 SEX F
0075428[] FAM @F1629@ does not link back; see INDI @I3968@
0075429 1 CHAN
0075430 2 DATE 28 SEP 2009
0075431 3 TIME 11:07:40
0075432 2 _PGV admin
0075433[] FAM @F535@ does not link back; see INDI @I3968@
0075434 0 @I948@ INDI
0075435 1 NAME Arthur /BROWN/
0075436 2 GIVN Arthur
0075437 2 SURN BROWN
0075438 1 BIRT
There is no I3968 in my Gedcom file, so not sure what error to fix.
Maybe this will help forum viewers …
FAMILY ONE
0 @F535@ FAM
1 HUSB @I947@
1 WIFE @I903@
1 MARR
2 SOUR @S203@
1 CHAN
2 DATE 01 JAN 2010
3 TIME 18:22:55
2 _PGVU admin
1 CHIL @I4139@
1 CHIL @I4554@
FAMILY TWO
0 @F1629@ FAM
1 HUSB @I3967@
1 WIFE @I4554@
1 CHAN
2 DATE 01 JAN 2010
3 TIME 18:24:28
2 _PGVU admin
1 CHIL @I3969@
1 CHIL @I3970@
1 MARR Y
2 SOUR @S482@
ERROR
0075423 1 NAME Fran /SMITH/
0075424 2 GIVN Fran
0075425 2 SURN SMITH
0075426 2 _MARNM Fran /JONES/
0075427 1 SEX F
0075428[] FAM @F1629@ does not link back; see INDI @I3968@
0075429 1 CHAN
0075430 2 DATE 28 SEP 2009
0075431 3 TIME 11:07:40
0075432 2 _PGV admin
0075433[] FAM @F535@ does not link back; see INDI @I3968@
0075434 0 @I948@ INDI
0075435 1 NAME Arthur /BROWN/
0075436 2 GIVN Arthur
0075437 2 SURN BROWN
0075438 1 BIRT
Thanks dxradio. How did you do that? This forum input box drives me to drink. Took ages just to get a paragraph recognized.
And still can't do single lines for codes.
Type the lines the way you want them to look.
Select them.
Click the icon that looks like
101
010
Also, note that there is a preview box below where you type to see the results.
moving to separate topic as my Gedcom error fix is for this
Mac
When you see that error in gedcheck, the "I3968" at the end is a clickable link. What happens if you click on it?
If you don't have that INDI number, what is Fran SMITH's INDI number?
I guess the INDI is in the FILE, but not the DATABASE. gedcheck works on the former.
I3968 = Unable to find record with ID and I don't remember who it was. Now I don't delete records, just recycle but this is gone.
Fran SMITH is I4554. Her parents are I947/I903. Her mother was married twice. Fran's father is I947.
Does that mean next time I import/replace it shoud disappear? What's strange is
0075435 1 NAME Arthur /BROWN/
He has nothing to do with these two families.
> What's strange is
0075435 1 NAME Arthur /BROWN/
MAC, there's nothing strange about that. He just happens to be the next INDI record in the GEDCOM file. There's no particular order for GEDCOM file entries.
> Does that mean next time I import/replace it should disappear?
NO DO NOT IMPORT !!!
As Greg said, the 'error' INDI is in your file, not your database. If you import that file now you will introduce the error to your DB. You need to EXPORT now, to get a clean version of your GEDCOM file, then run gedcheck again to make sure the error has gone.
Just a thought. When you open GedCheck, there is a drop down to select the GEDCOM file. Are you SURE you are selecting the RIGHT file??? If you have multiple copies this would be a good time to clean out all but the latest exported version. Go to Admin, 'Clean up Index Directory, to delete unwanted and old files.
Fantastic. Errors gone. One new one cropped up and was able to correct.
I think the source of my problem is undoing relationships. Somehow reference to the FAM remains. I go to the FAM record, and delete each person from Family then delete FAM if it needs to be.
> Somehow reference to the FAM remains.
Not in the current version of PGV (or any for sometime) it doesn't - or at least I can't make that happen. More likely its related to frequent import / export; sync/un-sync type issues, with the occasionally incorrect RAW GEDCOM edit (not recently, but early on in your work).
If you delete a person from the family page, you ONLY delete them from the FAM record, but you will also delete their INDI FAMS or FAMC tag. They will still exist on your tree though.
If you want to completely remove a person, do it from their INDI page. That will remove the person, and ALL references to them everywhere.
I find it extremely rare to need to delete a FAM record. PGV automatically removes it as you remove the last member of it, in my experience.
MAC, can I, for your own "safety", recommend you leave auto-sync ON for now (but do an EXPORT immediately before turning it ON). Your GEDCOM is nowhere near large enough to benefit from having it turned off, and it will avoid any mis-match errors. It is also one less thing to worry about as you work with Gedcheck.
kiwi: It was OFF relating to the Tracker fix I'm in the middle of. Normally I do leave it ON.
I thought deleting FAM when two people are connecting in error did remove the FAM reference in both their records. I don't want to lose the people, just their union. Hence why I did it from the FAM page. As I mentioned, even if the two people shouldn't be in my Gedcom, I just recycle later (my personal preference.)
> It was OFF relating to the Tracker fix I'm in the middle of. Normally I do leave it ON.
Thats good, but don't forget that turning it ON does NOT syncronise it. Do an EXPORT then turn it on.
> I thought deleting FAM when two people are connecting in error did remove the FAM reference in both their records.
Thats right, it does. But I was responding to your comment "I go to the FAM record, and delete each person from Family…"
Thats where I might have got confused about what you were doing.
<QUOTE>Thats right, it does. But I was responding to your comment "I go to the FAM record, and delete each person from Family…"
Thats where I might have got confused about what you were doing.
That is what I do. Go to FAM record. Remove I123, remove I345. Delete FAM. Then I get the "Unable to find record with ID" and I go about my way.
> That is what I do. Go to FAM record. Remove I123, remove I345. Delete FAM. Then I get the "Unable to find record with ID" and I go about my way.
No need. Go to FAM page, Click on Edit - Delete Family. You will get a pop-up warning that says: "Deleting the family will unlink all of the individuals from each other but will leave the individuals in place. Are you sure you want to delete this family?"
Thats all you need to do.
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