I have some large media files with a lot of text. It would be nice if when i view these, rather than zooming in to read and then zooming out to move to another spot on the document and then zooming in to read and back out to find another spot... if there was a mouse over zoom capability. which zoomed a portion of the image to make easier to read...
something like this http://www.nihilogic.dk/labs/mojomagnify/
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Kyle
You have me a bit confused. Why would you "zooming out to move to another spot on the document and then zooming in to read and back out to find another spot" rather than simply pan about the document? Can your explain?
I find mojomagnify both annoying and pretty useless as it seems to have little or no variation to the magnification scheme.
On the other hand, Lightbox allows progressive zooming and panning of the entire document. Since you say your main purpose is not to view details in a photo (which of course would be possible) but rather reading text, simply zoom to the level you find most comfortable reading (I-key for IN) and then click and pan to read the text outside the viewing window without any re-zoom.
-Stephen
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For me i know where some information is on the chart but i cannot read details about it... so i zoom in close enough to read it... this is too close to read anything else on the document since my monitor is only 19 inches and my resolution is only set to 1024 x 768 or something like that... so, i zoom back out... move over a little bit and zoom back in to read more....
it works similar to a real life magnifying glass...
the zoom feature i use in pgv now... requires me to zoom in to level i can read and the drag the document several times to pan around and find the spot im looking for or zoom back out.... and zoom one level,, pan,, zoom another lever,, pan
i guess i could use my OS magnify feature... but i dont always have that on...
or i could use my mouse's magnify feature..?
or i could just print all this stuff out and use a real magnifying glass?
i guess for me, i use PGV as a tool and i work with it... its not just about displaying data and information. i need to easily review documents and other media and use it to fill in data in my gedcom.
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Kyle,
In principle what you say is an interesting idea.
However I would just point out a few things.
MojoMagnify seems to require two copies of the same image (one visible on screen, and another HI-res)
In addition to doubling the number of images in the media directory, this would require some clever coding to change the existing image viewing code (which is not as simple as just linking to an image) and also then select the HI-res one when needed)
Just adding Javascript modules one on top of another can also lead to horrendous conflicts which take a long time to resolve.
(PGV Lightbox has over 2600 lines of javascript code at the moment)
(It took me nearly a year of development to get the best (in my opinion) "Lightbox" code (Clearbox) and add sound and zooming and note superimposition into a stable piece of work)
(The base script is in fact "Clearbox V2, and I have been graciously allowed by George Krupa (author of Clearbox) to modify for PGV)
Clearbox itself is now at V2.6, but I have had no time to integrate it with the additional features above as the base has radically changed. (Even though George himself has said he would like my coding results if I ever get round to it)
PGV Lightbox is reasonably stable, and I would like to keep it that way for now.
But things can and should change.
Unfortunately, I have other priorities in my development schedule which preclude me looking at your intersesting idea for several months.
However, as this is open source, why not have a bash at adding this yourself if it is really necessary to your work?
Or, the only other suggestion I would make is to "up" your resolution, and maybe go for a 24" monitor.
(But *DO* go for a widescreen one as they are better for viewing census documents, birth certificates etc. for example.
(I have a 22" Dell, and 1680x1050 res, and they are not that expensive now))
Seriously, much as I would like to have a go, I have no time at the moment, sorry.
But do put this in a an RFE if you feel strongly about it.
Brian (Lightbox developer)
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Kyle
Guess this is more a difference in GEDCOM research and style. I never add documents or media to my PGV display until I've entered all the data therein contained into the GEDCOM. I use PGV's display of the attached media as a SOUR material and for display, not to try to do work. To do as you suggest would mean opening two windows of PGV at the same time (not easy with a small screen - and I do most of my PGV work on my 14" laptop), and use one for the Lightbox display of the media and one for the data entry.
As I say above - style. I find the media, either in my own files or online, use it to enter the data into the GEDCOM via PGV and then attach the media to the FACT or EVENT, INDI or FAMily. You might try that procedure and see it that isn't easier. First adding media and using it afterwords to acquire information and enter it into PGV-GEDCOM is just something I've tried and found untenable - actually, just like you.
I find the attached media a catchy display for enhancing the presentation of the GEDCOM materials, and only occasionally review the details to see if I made an error while entering the data contained therein - support, not primary.
-Stephen
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I wasnt necessarily suggesting that particular example be used....
I guess i will have to find another piece of software for gathering data and use PGV for show casing it and sharing it with my family.
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I have some large media files with a lot of text. It would be nice if when i view these, rather than zooming in to read and then zooming out to move to another spot on the document and then zooming in to read and back out to find another spot... if there was a mouse over zoom capability. which zoomed a portion of the image to make easier to read...
something like this
http://www.nihilogic.dk/labs/mojomagnify/
Kyle
You have me a bit confused. Why would you "zooming out to move to another spot on the document and then zooming in to read and back out to find another spot" rather than simply pan about the document? Can your explain?
I find mojomagnify both annoying and pretty useless as it seems to have little or no variation to the magnification scheme.
On the other hand, Lightbox allows progressive zooming and panning of the entire document. Since you say your main purpose is not to view details in a photo (which of course would be possible) but rather reading text, simply zoom to the level you find most comfortable reading (I-key for IN) and then click and pan to read the text outside the viewing window without any re-zoom.
-Stephen
For me i know where some information is on the chart but i cannot read details about it... so i zoom in close enough to read it... this is too close to read anything else on the document since my monitor is only 19 inches and my resolution is only set to 1024 x 768 or something like that... so, i zoom back out... move over a little bit and zoom back in to read more....
it works similar to a real life magnifying glass...
the zoom feature i use in pgv now... requires me to zoom in to level i can read and the drag the document several times to pan around and find the spot im looking for or zoom back out.... and zoom one level,, pan,, zoom another lever,, pan
i guess i could use my OS magnify feature... but i dont always have that on...
or i could use my mouse's magnify feature..?
or i could just print all this stuff out and use a real magnifying glass?
i guess for me, i use PGV as a tool and i work with it... its not just about displaying data and information. i need to easily review documents and other media and use it to fill in data in my gedcom.
Kyle,
In principle what you say is an interesting idea.
However I would just point out a few things.
MojoMagnify seems to require two copies of the same image (one visible on screen, and another HI-res)
In addition to doubling the number of images in the media directory, this would require some clever coding to change the existing image viewing code (which is not as simple as just linking to an image) and also then select the HI-res one when needed)
Just adding Javascript modules one on top of another can also lead to horrendous conflicts which take a long time to resolve.
(PGV Lightbox has over 2600 lines of javascript code at the moment)
(It took me nearly a year of development to get the best (in my opinion) "Lightbox" code (Clearbox) and add sound and zooming and note superimposition into a stable piece of work)
(The base script is in fact "Clearbox V2, and I have been graciously allowed by George Krupa (author of Clearbox) to modify for PGV)
Clearbox itself is now at V2.6, but I have had no time to integrate it with the additional features above as the base has radically changed. (Even though George himself has said he would like my coding results if I ever get round to it)
PGV Lightbox is reasonably stable, and I would like to keep it that way for now.
But things can and should change.
Unfortunately, I have other priorities in my development schedule which preclude me looking at your intersesting idea for several months.
However, as this is open source, why not have a bash at adding this yourself if it is really necessary to your work?
Or, the only other suggestion I would make is to "up" your resolution, and maybe go for a 24" monitor.
(But *DO* go for a widescreen one as they are better for viewing census documents, birth certificates etc. for example.
(I have a 22" Dell, and 1680x1050 res, and they are not that expensive now))
Seriously, much as I would like to have a go, I have no time at the moment, sorry.
But do put this in a an RFE if you feel strongly about it.
Brian (Lightbox developer)
Kyle
Guess this is more a difference in GEDCOM research and style. I never add documents or media to my PGV display until I've entered all the data therein contained into the GEDCOM. I use PGV's display of the attached media as a SOUR material and for display, not to try to do work. To do as you suggest would mean opening two windows of PGV at the same time (not easy with a small screen - and I do most of my PGV work on my 14" laptop), and use one for the Lightbox display of the media and one for the data entry.
As I say above - style. I find the media, either in my own files or online, use it to enter the data into the GEDCOM via PGV and then attach the media to the FACT or EVENT, INDI or FAMily. You might try that procedure and see it that isn't easier. First adding media and using it afterwords to acquire information and enter it into PGV-GEDCOM is just something I've tried and found untenable - actually, just like you.
I find the attached media a catchy display for enhancing the presentation of the GEDCOM materials, and only occasionally review the details to see if I made an error while entering the data contained therein - support, not primary.
-Stephen
I wasnt necessarily suggesting that particular example be used....
I guess i will have to find another piece of software for gathering data and use PGV for show casing it and sharing it with my family.