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RE: [phpesp-general] Limiting users to a single survey submission

[<ro...@la...>]

yes Derek, 

the approach I suggested would require you to create a separate user
account for every user that you wish to be able to take the survey.
As of today I don't think you can limit users access by sending a cookie. Even
if you could, what about shared computers, or it is not a concern for your 
target market.
Anyway it is possible to add this feature, but it's up to James Flemer to make a
decision on that. Hopefully he'll read the post and you'll hear what he has to
say about it soon.

Good luck,
-Roman
Quoting Derek Santos <me...@de...>:

> Thanks Roma, but wouldn't that approach require me to create a separate
> user
> account for every user that I wished to be able to take the survey?
> 
> Our survey is meant to be public and open to any web user that decides
> to
> take it -- with upwards of hundreds of folks taking it -- so creating
> individual accounts for each user isn't feasible.
> 
> Am I understanding private surveys correctly?
> 
> Thanks,
> Derek
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ro...@la... [mailto:ro...@la...]
> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 3:57 AM
> To: me...@de...
> Subject: Re: [phpesp-general] Limiting users to a single survey
> submission
> 
> 
> Derek,
> 
> you're right. It's possible, but not by cookies. You need to go to
> Change
> Access
> To a Survey (Limit Respondents.) and set Max Logins to a number that
> represents
> how many times one can access the survey. (Survey should be set to
> Private
> for
> this to work). This should do it for you.
> 
> -Roma  
> 
> 
> Quoting Derek Santos <me...@de...>:
> 
> >
> > Hello, I just installed the software and it's great -- I am having
> one
> > problem however.  I can't find a setting anywhere that would allow me
> > to
> > limit visitors to a single submission of a survey by setting a
> cookie.
> > I'm
> > assuming the software has usch a feature, since without it ballot
> > stuffing
> > would be a huge problem, but I just haven't found it.
> >
> > Can anyone help?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Derek
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > phpESP-general mailing list
> > php...@li...
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpesp-general
> >
> 
> 

RE: [phpesp-general] Limiting users to a single survey submission

[Derek S. <me...@de...>]

Well, that's disappointing... without such a feature this script is unusable
for me, I can't have users be able to "stuff the ballot" simply by hitting
the BACK or RELOAD buttons.  I agree cookies aren't foolproof, but they are
better than nothing at all (and better than the other alternative -- IP
logging with one vote per IP.)  If there are shared computers, generally
users still have seperate logins (and with that a separate user profile.)
But if someone is just using a shared computer in something like a public
library, no, that's small exception scenario is not really a concern of
mine.

My primary concern is that I run a website, want to offer an awards survey
ballot on the website, and I do not want the members of the community to be
able to EASILY vote more than once for their favorite choices.  Yes, someone
could always delete the cookie or log on from all their friends computers as
well, but as I mentioned, my goal was to not make it easy but by no means
ironclad.

I'm surprised James hasn't already implemented this functionlity, as I said,
it's a pretty standard feature of just about all the survey scripts that
I've been evaluating, the lack of such a feature would seem to put phpESP at
a large competitive disadvantage.  It's too bad, because other than that it
looks like a very nice piece of software, I'm very disappointed it won't fit
my needs.

Best of luck,
Derek


-----Original Message-----
From: php...@li...
[mailto:php...@li...]On Behalf Of
ro...@la...
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 10:34 AM
To: php...@li...
Cc: me...@de...
Subject: RE: [phpesp-general] Limiting users to a single survey
submission


yes Derek,

the approach I suggested would require you to create a separate user
account for every user that you wish to be able to take the survey.
As of today I don't think you can limit users access by sending a cookie.
Even
if you could, what about shared computers, or it is not a concern for your
target market.
Anyway it is possible to add this feature, but it's up to James Flemer to
make a
decision on that. Hopefully he'll read the post and you'll hear what he has
to
say about it soon.

Good luck,
-Roman
Quoting Derek Santos <me...@de...>:

> Thanks Roma, but wouldn't that approach require me to create a separate
> user
> account for every user that I wished to be able to take the survey?
>
> Our survey is meant to be public and open to any web user that decides
> to
> take it -- with upwards of hundreds of folks taking it -- so creating
> individual accounts for each user isn't feasible.
>
> Am I understanding private surveys correctly?
>
> Thanks,
> Derek
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ro...@la... [mailto:ro...@la...]
> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 3:57 AM
> To: me...@de...
> Subject: Re: [phpesp-general] Limiting users to a single survey
> submission
>
>
> Derek,
>
> you're right. It's possible, but not by cookies. You need to go to
> Change
> Access
> To a Survey (Limit Respondents.) and set Max Logins to a number that
> represents
> how many times one can access the survey. (Survey should be set to
> Private
> for
> this to work). This should do it for you.
>
> -Roma
>
>
> Quoting Derek Santos <me...@de...>:
>
> >
> > Hello, I just installed the software and it's great -- I am having
> one
> > problem however.  I can't find a setting anywhere that would allow me
> > to
> > limit visitors to a single submission of a survey by setting a
> cookie.
> > I'm
> > assuming the software has usch a feature, since without it ballot
> > stuffing
> > would be a huge problem, but I just haven't found it.
> >
> > Can anyone help?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Derek
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > phpESP-general mailing list
> > php...@li...
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpesp-general
> >
>
>

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RE: [phpesp-general] Limiting users to a single survey submission

[<ro...@la...>]

you said *members of the community*. does it mean they are registered members
(they have username/password somewhere). If it is the case you could use their
existing username/password in ESP. To put together a script which would transfer
their existing u/p into ESP shouldn't be too much work/time.

-Roma
Quoting Derek Santos <me...@de...>:

> Well, that's disappointing... without such a feature this script is
> unusable
> for me, I can't have users be able to "stuff the ballot" simply by
> hitting
> the BACK or RELOAD buttons.  I agree cookies aren't foolproof, but they
> are
> better than nothing at all (and better than the other alternative -- IP
> logging with one vote per IP.)  If there are shared computers,
> generally
> users still have seperate logins (and with that a separate user
> profile.)
> But if someone is just using a shared computer in something like a
> public
> library, no, that's small exception scenario is not really a concern of
> mine.
> 
> My primary concern is that I run a website, want to offer an awards
> survey
> ballot on the website, and I do not want the members of the community to
> be
> able to EASILY vote more than once for their favorite choices.  Yes,
> someone
> could always delete the cookie or log on from all their friends
> computers as
> well, but as I mentioned, my goal was to not make it easy but by no
> means
> ironclad.
> 
> I'm surprised James hasn't already implemented this functionlity, as I
> said,
> it's a pretty standard feature of just about all the survey scripts
> that
> I've been evaluating, the lack of such a feature would seem to put
> phpESP at
> a large competitive disadvantage.  It's too bad, because other than that
> it
> looks like a very nice piece of software, I'm very disappointed it won't
> fit
> my needs.
> 
> Best of luck,
> Derek
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: php...@li...
> [mailto:php...@li...]On Behalf Of
> ro...@la...
> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 10:34 AM
> To: php...@li...
> Cc: me...@de...
> Subject: RE: [phpesp-general] Limiting users to a single survey
> submission
> 
> 
> yes Derek,
> 
> the approach I suggested would require you to create a separate user
> account for every user that you wish to be able to take the survey.
> As of today I don't think you can limit users access by sending a
> cookie.
> Even
> if you could, what about shared computers, or it is not a concern for
> your
> target market.
> Anyway it is possible to add this feature, but it's up to James Flemer
> to
> make a
> decision on that. Hopefully he'll read the post and you'll hear what he
> has
> to
> say about it soon.
> 
> Good luck,
> -Roman
> Quoting Derek Santos <me...@de...>:
> 
> > Thanks Roma, but wouldn't that approach require me to create a
> separate
> > user
> > account for every user that I wished to be able to take the survey?
> >
> > Our survey is meant to be public and open to any web user that
> decides
> > to
> > take it -- with upwards of hundreds of folks taking it -- so creating
> > individual accounts for each user isn't feasible.
> >
> > Am I understanding private surveys correctly?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Derek
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ro...@la... [mailto:ro...@la...]
> > Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 3:57 AM
> > To: me...@de...
> > Subject: Re: [phpesp-general] Limiting users to a single survey
> > submission
> >
> >
> > Derek,
> >
> > you're right. It's possible, but not by cookies. You need to go to
> > Change
> > Access
> > To a Survey (Limit Respondents.) and set Max Logins to a number that
> > represents
> > how many times one can access the survey. (Survey should be set to
> > Private
> > for
> > this to work). This should do it for you.
> >
> > -Roma
> >
> >
> > Quoting Derek Santos <me...@de...>:
> >
> > >
> > > Hello, I just installed the software and it's great -- I am having
> > one
> > > problem however.  I can't find a setting anywhere that would allow
> me
> > > to
> > > limit visitors to a single submission of a survey by setting a
> > cookie.
> > > I'm
> > > assuming the software has usch a feature, since without it ballot
> > > stuffing
> > > would be a huge problem, but I just haven't found it.
> > >
> > > Can anyone help?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Derek
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > phpESP-general mailing list
> > > 
> > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpesp-general
> > >
> >
> >
> 
> _______________________________________________
> phpESP-general mailing list
> php...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpesp-general
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> phpESP-general mailing list
> php...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpesp-general
> 

RE: [phpesp-general] Limiting users to a single survey submission

[Derek S. <me...@de...>]

Some are registered to be able to post on our message boards, but that's
probably only about 10% of our users, we have a very large "lurker"
community and I don't want to require registration in order to be able to
vote.  Thanks for the thought however.

-Derek

-----Original Message-----
From: php...@li...
[mailto:php...@li...]On Behalf Of
ro...@la...
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 11:01 AM
To: php...@li...
Cc: me...@de...
Subject: RE: [phpesp-general] Limiting users to a single survey
submission


you said *members of the community*. does it mean they are registered
members
(they have username/password somewhere). If it is the case you could use
their
existing username/password in ESP. To put together a script which would
transfer
their existing u/p into ESP shouldn't be too much work/time.

-Roma
Quoting Derek Santos <me...@de...>:

> Well, that's disappointing... without such a feature this script is
> unusable
> for me, I can't have users be able to "stuff the ballot" simply by
> hitting
> the BACK or RELOAD buttons.  I agree cookies aren't foolproof, but they
> are
> better than nothing at all (and better than the other alternative -- IP
> logging with one vote per IP.)  If there are shared computers,
> generally
> users still have seperate logins (and with that a separate user
> profile.)
> But if someone is just using a shared computer in something like a
> public
> library, no, that's small exception scenario is not really a concern of
> mine.
>
> My primary concern is that I run a website, want to offer an awards
> survey
> ballot on the website, and I do not want the members of the community to
> be
> able to EASILY vote more than once for their favorite choices.  Yes,
> someone
> could always delete the cookie or log on from all their friends
> computers as
> well, but as I mentioned, my goal was to not make it easy but by no
> means
> ironclad.
>
> I'm surprised James hasn't already implemented this functionlity, as I
> said,
> it's a pretty standard feature of just about all the survey scripts
> that
> I've been evaluating, the lack of such a feature would seem to put
> phpESP at
> a large competitive disadvantage.  It's too bad, because other than that
> it
> looks like a very nice piece of software, I'm very disappointed it won't
> fit
> my needs.
>
> Best of luck,
> Derek
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: php...@li...
> [mailto:php...@li...]On Behalf Of
> ro...@la...
> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 10:34 AM
> To: php...@li...
> Cc: me...@de...
> Subject: RE: [phpesp-general] Limiting users to a single survey
> submission
>
>
> yes Derek,
>
> the approach I suggested would require you to create a separate user
> account for every user that you wish to be able to take the survey.
> As of today I don't think you can limit users access by sending a
> cookie.
> Even
> if you could, what about shared computers, or it is not a concern for
> your
> target market.
> Anyway it is possible to add this feature, but it's up to James Flemer
> to
> make a
> decision on that. Hopefully he'll read the post and you'll hear what he
> has
> to
> say about it soon.
>
> Good luck,
> -Roman
> Quoting Derek Santos <me...@de...>:
>
> > Thanks Roma, but wouldn't that approach require me to create a
> separate
> > user
> > account for every user that I wished to be able to take the survey?
> >
> > Our survey is meant to be public and open to any web user that
> decides
> > to
> > take it -- with upwards of hundreds of folks taking it -- so creating
> > individual accounts for each user isn't feasible.
> >
> > Am I understanding private surveys correctly?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Derek
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ro...@la... [mailto:ro...@la...]
> > Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 3:57 AM
> > To: me...@de...
> > Subject: Re: [phpesp-general] Limiting users to a single survey
> > submission
> >
> >
> > Derek,
> >
> > you're right. It's possible, but not by cookies. You need to go to
> > Change
> > Access
> > To a Survey (Limit Respondents.) and set Max Logins to a number that
> > represents
> > how many times one can access the survey. (Survey should be set to
> > Private
> > for
> > this to work). This should do it for you.
> >
> > -Roma
> >
> >
> > Quoting Derek Santos <me...@de...>:
> >
> > >
> > > Hello, I just installed the software and it's great -- I am having
> > one
> > > problem however.  I can't find a setting anywhere that would allow
> me
> > > to
> > > limit visitors to a single submission of a survey by setting a
> > cookie.
> > > I'm
> > > assuming the software has usch a feature, since without it ballot
> > > stuffing
> > > would be a huge problem, but I just haven't found it.
> > >
> > > Can anyone help?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Derek
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > phpESP-general mailing list
> > > 
> > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpesp-general
> > >
> >
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> phpESP-general mailing list
> php...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpesp-general
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> phpESP-general mailing list
> php...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpesp-general
>

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