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[phpesp-dev] new phpESP GUI

From: Kon A. <ang...@ip...> - 2002-03-30 07:20:42

Attachments: new_phpESP_GUI.jpg

Guys,

	I've attached one of the new GUIs I designed for phpESP.
	Your thoughts, ideas please ......

	Over the next couple of days I'll also post the other 2 designs I've
	created for your comments.

Kon

Re: [phpesp-dev] new phpESP GUI

From: James E. F. <jf...@ac...> - 2002-03-30 15:45:36

Looks cool. I can't wait to see the rest.
-James

Re: [phpesp-dev] new phpESP GUI

From: Kon A. <ang...@ip...> - 2002-03-30 23:47:57

Attachments: revised_GUI_no1.jpg

Thanks for the suggestions Lou, I'll keep them in mind for the final design.
In the mean time I've implemented some of your suggestions to the GUI I posted
yesterday and have attached a revised version.

Do they suite ?

Kon

On Sun, 31 Mar 2002 02:45, James E. Flemer wrote:
> Looks cool. I can't wait to see the rest.
> -James
>
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Re: [phpesp-dev] new phpESP GUI

From: Lou S. <lr...@at...> - 2002-03-31 00:21:17

Cool.  Love those colours (Candian spelling!).
I wondering if the menu items under the main headings
will have the same colour pallete as the main heading?
:-)
I wish I had that sense of colour maching and design.  :-((
I guess I'm in the same boat as James on this one.

I don't know if your next mock-up will contain this,
but I still think there should be a Survey Deployement
section (i.e. which contains the Changing of status (or publishing the
survey) and the Change of Access).

I was also thinking that Survey Administration might
be changed to Survey Creation so then we have

    Survey Creation
    Survey Deployment
    Survey Results

    and then the

    Admin
    Utilites
    Help

That would balance the display with  3 x 3 with one at the bottom(i.e
the contact stuff).

I was just wondering about the order of the menu items in the Account
Admin
section.  That is, I was thinking that they should be in order of usage
and I
don't know what the order should be.  Any ideas?

I noticed the version number!  :-))
(I guess the reason I'm kinda sensitve about that one is that if users
are having difficulty
they can quickly find the version number of the package.  Moreover, it
also saves
time for developers when trying to track down bugs).

Regarding the version number, I also think that the version should be
placed somewhere at the bottom
of each survey generated (in small font of course)

Thank you.
Lou.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kon Angelopoulos" <ang...@ip...>
To: "James E. Flemer" <jf...@ac...>; "Lou Spironello"
<lr...@at...>
Cc: <php...@li...>
Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 7:44 PM
Subject: Re: [phpesp-dev] new phpESP GUI

> Thanks for the suggestions Lou, I'll keep them in mind for the final
design.
> In the mean time I've implemented some of your suggestions to the GUI
I posted
> yesterday and have attached a revised version.
>
> Do they suite ?
>
> Kon
>
> On Sun, 31 Mar 2002 02:45, James E. Flemer wrote:
> > Looks cool. I can't wait to see the rest.
> > -James
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > phpESP-devel mailing list
> > php...@li...
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpesp-devel
>

Re: [phpesp-dev] new phpESP GUI

From: James E. F. <jf...@ac...> - 2002-03-31 00:49:26

On Sat, 30 Mar 2002, Lou Spironello wrote:

> I noticed the version number!  :-))
> (I guess the reason I'm kinda sensitve about that one
> is that if users are having difficulty they can quickly
> find the version number of the package.  Moreover, it
> also saves time for developers when trying to track
> down bugs).
>
> Regarding the version number, I also think that the
> version should be placed somewhere at the bottom of
> each survey generated (in small font of course)

I want the generated survey to be free of all
advertisements. Or at the least have it be "opt-in" (ie.
default to no advertisement).

-James

Re: [phpesp-dev] new phpESP GUI

From: Lou S. <lr...@at...> - 2002-03-31 01:43:27

----- Original Message -----
From: "James E. Flemer" <jf...@ac...>
Cc: <php...@li...>
Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 7:49 PM
Subject: Re: [phpesp-dev] new phpESP GUI


> On Sat, 30 Mar 2002, Lou Spironello wrote:
>
> > I noticed the version number!  :-))
> > (I guess the reason I'm kinda sensitve about that one
> > is that if users are having difficulty they can quickly
> > find the version number of the package.  Moreover, it
> > also saves time for developers when trying to track
> > down bugs).
> >
> > Regarding the version number, I also think that the
> > version should be placed somewhere at the bottom of
> > each survey generated (in small font of course)
>
> I want the generated survey to be free of all
> advertisements. Or at the least have it be "opt-in" (ie.
> default to no advertisement).
I think a configurable option would be good considering that this would
make
phpESP more generalized.

Lou.
> -James
>
>
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Re: [phpesp-dev] new phpESP GUI

From: Kon A. <ang...@ip...> - 2002-03-31 02:42:41

The feedback is much appreciated. Keep it comming.

whenever I design a GUI it must meet the following criteria:

1/ when viewed on an 800 x 600 screen resolution there should be no
horizontal scrolling (of course there are times when this can't be helped...).
When using a scroll, the idea is to place the least important info in the 
scroll area. Keeping this in mind which of the headings/links would you 
consider least important and therefore place in the scroll area?

Creating Section headings is always a difficult task. You try to avoid 3 
things:
	1/ clutter
	2/ headings that only contain 1 or two links because this tends to give the 
impression that this section is "underdeveloped".
	3/ headings that do not give a true reflection of its content.
	(assume that we implemented a Survey Deployment section header and placed 
"changing of status" and "change access to survey" links within this heading. 
we then proceed to analyse the functionality of the links.
are archiving, ending, editing considered survey deployments processes?
even testing cannot be truly considered a survey deployment process.


I hope this gives you an idea as to where I'm comming from and the complexity 
of GUI design.

Kon

On Sun, 31 Mar 2002 10:19, Lou Spironello wrote:
> Cool.  Love those colours (Candian spelling!).
> I wondering if the menu items under the main headings
> will have the same colour pallete as the main heading?
>
> :-)
>
> I wish I had that sense of colour maching and design.  :-((
> I guess I'm in the same boat as James on this one.
>
> I don't know if your next mock-up will contain this,
> but I still think there should be a Survey Deployement
> section (i.e. which contains the Changing of status (or publishing the
> survey) and the Change of Access).
>
> I was also thinking that Survey Administration might
> be changed to Survey Creation so then we have
>
>     Survey Creation
>     Survey Deployment
>     Survey Results
>
>     and then the
>
>     Admin
>     Utilites
>     Help
>
> That would balance the display with  3 x 3 with one at the bottom(i.e
> the contact stuff).
>
> I was just wondering about the order of the menu items in the Account
> Admin
> section.  That is, I was thinking that they should be in order of usage
> and I
> don't know what the order should be.  Any ideas?
>
> I noticed the version number!  :-))
> (I guess the reason I'm kinda sensitve about that one is that if users
> are having difficulty
> they can quickly find the version number of the package.  Moreover, it
> also saves
> time for developers when trying to track down bugs).
>
> Regarding the version number, I also think that the version should be
> placed somewhere at the bottom
> of each survey generated (in small font of course)
>
> Thank you.
> Lou.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kon Angelopoulos" <ang...@ip...>
> To: "James E. Flemer" <jf...@ac...>; "Lou Spironello"
> <lr...@at...>
> Cc: <php...@li...>
> Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 7:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [phpesp-dev] new phpESP GUI
>
> > Thanks for the suggestions Lou, I'll keep them in mind for the final
>
> design.
>
> > In the mean time I've implemented some of your suggestions to the GUI
>
> I posted
>
> > yesterday and have attached a revised version.
> >
> > Do they suite ?
> >
> > Kon
> >
> > On Sun, 31 Mar 2002 02:45, James E. Flemer wrote:
> > > Looks cool. I can't wait to see the rest.
> > > -James
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > phpESP-devel mailing list
> > > php...@li...
> > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpesp-devel
>
> _______________________________________________
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> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpesp-devel

Re: [phpesp-dev] new phpESP GUI

From: Lou S. <lr...@at...> - 2002-03-30 19:02:30

Cool!

Just a few ideas(as always.  :-) ):
    Change the order of the display of main headings so that they follow
the logical
        path of a survey construction/adminitration(i.e.
            Creation/Build
                Add
                Edit
                Copy
                Delete
                Test

            Send/Distribute
                Set survey access privliges
                Set survey status

            Results/Reports
                view results from survey
                view survey report

            Administration
                User
                    Add/Edit/Delete/Copy
                Group
                    Add/Edit/Delete/Copy
                Admin
                    Add/Edit/Delete/Copy
                Password

            Utilities
                Import
                Export
                Purge
                Merge

            Help
                User Guide
                Administration Guide
                Link to Bugs document
                Link to Credits Document
                Link to License
                Link to Todo

            Contact Us
                Link to Bugs reporting database for phpESP at SF
                Link to user newsgroup lists for phpESP at SF

    I have a concern for the wording of the two phrases "View Results
from a Survey" and
        "View a Survey Report".    I find that those phrases don't
immediately convey
        the meaning of the menu item.  I haven't thought of an
alternative yet.  :-(

    Version number of phpESP should be displayed at top of page.

    phpESP website URL might be included at the bottom of the page
        or through clicking from the phpESP image at the top of the
page.


Thank you
Lou.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kon Angelopoulos" <ang...@ip...>
To:
Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 2:17 AM
Subject: [phpesp-dev] new phpESP GUI


> Guys,
>
> I've attached one of the new GUIs I designed for phpESP.
> Your thoughts, ideas please ......
>
> Over the next couple of days I'll also post the other 2 designs I've
> created for your comments.
>
> Kon

Re: [phpesp-dev] new phpESP GUI

From: Lou S. <lr...@at...> - 2002-03-30 23:55:02

No complaints about the GUI just another suggestion regarding
old interface and the combo boxes for the yes/no options in the Designer
Account page.  I think they should be changed to checkboxes.

I was also thinking it would be good to have combo boxes
for the Day, Month, and Years.

Lou
P.S.  I like the colours and the graphics of the new interface.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kon Angelopoulos" <ang...@ip...>
To: <php...@li...>
Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 2:17 AM
Subject: [phpesp-dev] new phpESP GUI


> Guys,
>
> I've attached one of the new GUIs I designed for phpESP.
> Your thoughts, ideas please ......
>
> Over the next couple of days I'll also post the other 2 designs I've
> created for your comments.
>
> Kon

Re: [phpesp-dev] new phpESP GUI

From: James E. F. <jf...@ac...> - 2002-03-31 00:46:09

On Sat, 30 Mar 2002, Lou Spironello wrote:

> No complaints about the GUI just another suggestion regarding
> old interface and the combo boxes for the yes/no options in the Designer
> Account page.  I think they should be changed to checkboxes.
>
> I was also thinking it would be good to have combo boxes
> for the Day, Month, and Years.

I was told once that combo boxes are much easier for
disabled people, see my recent post titled "GUI design
considerations".

Perhaps this should be a configurable preference.
-James

Re: [phpesp-dev] new phpESP GUI

From: Lou S. <lr...@at...> - 2002-03-31 01:43:27

----- Original Message -----
From: "James E. Flemer" <jf...@ac...>
To: "Lou Spironello" <lr...@at...>
Cc: <php...@li...>
Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 7:46 PM
Subject: Re: [phpesp-dev] new phpESP GUI


> On Sat, 30 Mar 2002, Lou Spironello wrote:
>
> > No complaints about the GUI just another suggestion regarding
> > old interface and the combo boxes for the yes/no options in the
Designer
> > Account page.  I think they should be changed to checkboxes.
> >
> > I was also thinking it would be good to have combo boxes
> > for the Day, Month, and Years.
>
> I was told once that combo boxes are much easier for
> disabled people, see my recent post titled "GUI design
> considerations".
I think w3.org has an accessiblity doc we might look at.

I also think there is an accessability site called bobby???? which
may validate pages regarding disability issues, etc.  I can check into
this one.

> Perhaps this should be a configurable preference.
Sounds good.


> -James
>
>
>
>
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