From: Creative M. <Cre...@Pu...> - 2002-07-05 13:11:46
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Hi Developers, The three new GUI is nice all of them as mentioned before. However their layout is very similar to eachother. Some different colorsets etc. Has anyone though of a left side menu in a new frame where you have a tree like structure where you click for instance Survey Administration and then the tree expands and shows the valid items? I can see a bonus by doing this. For instance if we would add security levels at a later stage where you have: A survey programmer A project manager A client A general person overviewing surveys Then you would be able to choose which of the items on the list that get's displayed to different security levels. So when let's say the developer expands a menu, all items get displayed, but if a client or PM expands a tree, just the items they should be able to execute will de displayed. This would look a lot better with a tree like structure in my opinion.... Any comments? // CM |
From: <fl...@gm...> - 2002-07-05 13:26:23
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YO! good idea but please: NO frames!! more pages more mistakes more confusion! the system can handle it without frames...so there is actually no need of using frames! the menue should be displayed as the lowest user has "anonymous" and after logont it shows more like theiy are allowed to.. kind regards flobee ----- Original Message ----- From: "Creative Minds" <Cre...@Pu...> To: <php...@li...> Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 12:47 PM Subject: [phpesp-dev] GUI 4 Hi Developers, The three new GUI is nice all of them as mentioned before. However their layout is very similar to eachother. Some different colorsets etc. Has anyone though of a left side menu in a new frame where you have a tree like structure where you click for instance Survey Administration and then the tree expands and shows the valid items? I can see a bonus by doing this. For instance if we would add security levels at a later stage where you have: A survey programmer A project manager A client A general person overviewing surveys Then you would be able to choose which of the items on the list that get's displayed to different security levels. So when let's say the developer expands a menu, all items get displayed, but if a client or PM expands a tree, just the items they should be able to execute will de displayed. This would look a lot better with a tree like structure in my opinion.... Any comments? // CM ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Bringing you mounds of caffeinated joy. http://thinkgeek.com/sf _______________________________________________ phpESP-devel mailing list php...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpesp-devel |
From: James E. F. <jf...@ac...> - 2002-07-05 13:37:12
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Also, PHP causes frames to load slowly when using sessions. It locks the session file on each request, causing the frames to load sequentially, rather than in parallel. So lets try to avoid this. -James On Fri, 5 Jul 2002 fl...@gm... wrote: > YO! good idea but please: NO frames!! more pages more mistakes more > confusion! the system can handle it without frames...so there is actually no > need of using frames! > the menue should be displayed as the lowest user has "anonymous" and after > logont it shows more like theiy are allowed to.. > > kind regards flobee > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Creative Minds" <Cre...@Pu...> > To: <php...@li...> > Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 12:47 PM > Subject: [phpesp-dev] GUI 4 > > > Hi Developers, > > The three new GUI is nice all of them as mentioned before. However > their layout is very similar to eachother. Some different colorsets > etc. > > Has anyone though of a left side menu in a new frame where you have a > tree like structure where you click for instance Survey Administration > and then the tree expands and shows the valid items? > > I can see a bonus by doing this. For instance if we would add security > levels at a later stage where you have: > > A survey programmer > A project manager > A client > A general person overviewing surveys > > Then you would be able to choose which of the items on the list that > get's displayed to different security levels. So when let's say the > developer expands a menu, all items get displayed, but if a client or > PM expands a tree, just the items they should be able to execute will > de displayed. This would look a lot better with a tree like structure > in my opinion.... > > Any comments? > > // CM > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek > Bringing you mounds of caffeinated joy. > http://thinkgeek.com/sf > _______________________________________________ > phpESP-devel mailing list > php...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpesp-devel > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek > Bringing you mounds of caffeinated joy. > http://thinkgeek.com/sf > _______________________________________________ > phpESP-devel mailing list > php...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpesp-devel > |
From: Creative M. <Cre...@Pu...> - 2002-07-05 18:10:44
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Agreed, No frames, but the tree solution in general is worth one or two design options right? Kon? Ideas??? // CM 2002-07-05 15:37:06, "James E. Flemer" <jf...@ac...> wrote: >Also, PHP causes frames to load slowly when using sessions. >It locks the session file on each request, causing the >frames to load sequentially, rather than in parallel. So >lets try to avoid this. > >-James > >On Fri, 5 Jul 2002 fl...@gm... wrote: > >> YO! good idea but please: NO frames!! more pages more mistakes more >> confusion! the system can handle it without frames...so there is actually no >> need of using frames! >> the menue should be displayed as the lowest user has "anonymous" and after >> logont it shows more like theiy are allowed to.. >> >> kind regards flobee >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Creative Minds" <Cre...@Pu...> >> To: <php...@li...> >> Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 12:47 PM >> Subject: [phpesp-dev] GUI 4 >> >> >> Hi Developers, >> >> The three new GUI is nice all of them as mentioned before. However >> their layout is very similar to eachother. Some different colorsets >> etc. >> >> Has anyone though of a left side menu in a new frame where you have a >> tree like structure where you click for instance Survey Administration >> and then the tree expands and shows the valid items? >> >> I can see a bonus by doing this. For instance if we would add security >> levels at a later stage where you have: >> >> A survey programmer >> A project manager >> A client >> A general person overviewing surveys >> >> Then you would be able to choose which of the items on the list that >> get's displayed to different security levels. So when let's say the >> developer expands a menu, all items get displayed, but if a client or >> PM expands a tree, just the items they should be able to execute will >> de displayed. This would look a lot better with a tree like structure >> in my opinion.... >> >> Any comments? >> >> // CM >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------- >> This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek >> Bringing you mounds of caffeinated joy. >> http://thinkgeek.com/sf >> _______________________________________________ >> phpESP-devel mailing list >> php...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpesp-devel >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------- >> This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek >> Bringing you mounds of caffeinated joy. >> http://thinkgeek.com/sf >> _______________________________________________ >> phpESP-devel mailing list >> php...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpesp-devel >> > > > >------------------------------------------------------- >This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek >Bringing you mounds of caffeinated joy. >http://thinkgeek.com/sf >_______________________________________________ >phpESP-devel mailing list >php...@li... >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpesp-devel > |
From: Kon A. <ang...@ip...> - 2002-07-06 02:56:17
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Gday all, Just a few quick thoughts. 1/ I recall a post to this list a while back where someone had raised the use of frames. I do not use frames for my designs! There are quite a few good reasons for this, some of which have been explained. 2/ Creative Minds aka Rebirth aka ......., as a follow up to one of James' posts "join project/more suggestions" I also have a full time job which sees me behind my desk 12 hours a day. This might help explain why there hasn't been any activity in the last 12 days..... 3/ I've replied to each of the following feature requests you've made (573852, 573854, 573862,573863,573866) but I'm still waiting on your replies to them so that their evaluation can proceed. - could you please help out by visiting the feature requests section of the phpESP project and follow up. 4/ I like your idea of using images for buttons (feature request: 577886) and will be implementing them in the new design. 5/ As for the new GUI. I've got 7 days off as from the 15th of this month so I will be devoting a lot of time to finishing the new GUI and incorporating as many feature requests as possible. So its very important that if you've submitted feature requests please revist them and reply to any further comments posted. 6/ Finally, the idea of a tree. I appreciate the thought that in the future we may add more security levels. It certainly has been something I've been thinking about as well and if there were more hours in a day I probably would have coded something by now but I'm not totally convinced that a tree structure is the most appropriate navigation tool. If I don't run out of time during my days off I'll create a tree and an alternative approach and we can vote on it. Kon On Fri, 5 Jul 2002 23:37, James E. Flemer wrote: > Also, PHP causes frames to load slowly when using sessions. > It locks the session file on each request, causing the > frames to load sequentially, rather than in parallel. So > lets try to avoid this. > > -James > > On Fri, 5 Jul 2002 fl...@gm... wrote: > > YO! good idea but please: NO frames!! more pages more mistakes more > > confusion! the system can handle it without frames...so there is actually > > no need of using frames! > > the menue should be displayed as the lowest user has "anonymous" and > > after logont it shows more like theiy are allowed to.. > > > > kind regards flobee > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Creative Minds" <Cre...@Pu...> > > To: <php...@li...> > > Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 12:47 PM > > Subject: [phpesp-dev] GUI 4 > > > > > > Hi Developers, > >, > > The three new GUI is nice all of them as mentioned before. However > > their layout is very similar to eachother. Some different colorsets > > etc. > > > > Has anyone though of a left side menu in a new frame where you have a > > tree like structure where you click for instance Survey Administration > > and then the tree expands and shows the valid items? > > > > I can see a bonus by doing this. For instance if we would add security > > levels at a later stage where you have: > > > > A survey programmer > > A project manager > > A client > > A general person overviewing surveys > > > > Then you would be able to choose which of the items on the list that > > get's displayed to different security levels. So when let's say the > > developer expands a menu, all items get displayed, but if a client or > > PM expands a tree, just the items they should be able to execute will > > de displayed. This would look a lot better with a tree like structure > > in my opinion.... > > > > Any comments? > > > > // CM > > > > > > > > > > >, > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek > > Bringing you mounds of caffeinated joy. > > http://thinkgeek.com/sf > > _______________________________________________ > > phpESP-devel mailing list > > php...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpesp-devel > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek > > Bringing you mounds of caffeinated joy. > > http://thinkgeek.com/sf > > _______________________________________________ > > phpESP-devel mailing list > > php...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpesp-devel > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek > Bringing you mounds of caffeinated joy. > http://thinkgeek.com/sf > _______________________________________________ > phpESP-devel mailing list > php...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpesp-devel , |
From: Creative M. <Cre...@Pu...> - 2002-07-06 11:01:45
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Check answers below 2002-07-06 04:59:16, Kon Angelopoulos <ang...@ip...> wrote: >Gday all, > >Just a few quick thoughts. >1/ I recall a post to this list a while back where someone had raised the use >of frames. I do not use frames for my designs! There are quite a few good >reasons for this, some of which have been explained. Yepp, already explained. My Bad =( >2/ Creative Minds aka Rebirth aka ......., as a follow up to one of James' >posts "join project/more suggestions" I also have a full time job which sees >me behind my desk 12 hours a day. This might help explain why there hasn't >been any activity in the last 12 days..... Full understanding, I hope you saw my appoligize in the same e-mail =) >3/ I've replied to each of the following feature requests you've made (573852, >573854, 573862,573863,573866) but I'm still waiting on your replies to them so >that their evaluation can proceed. - could you please help out by visiting >the feature requests section of the phpESP project and follow up. My Bad again... Except for on 573852 didn't see any comment there. I've visited the others mentioned and added a comment, probably mailed to you by now. I do hope they clear some things out and that they'll be considered to be included / stay on request list. Look forward to see further comments =). >4/ I like your idea of using images for buttons (feature request: 577886) and >will be implementing them in the new design. > >5/ As for the new GUI. I've got 7 days off as from the 15th of this month so I >will be devoting a lot of time to finishing the new GUI and incorporating as >many feature requests as possible. So its very important that if you've >submitted feature requests please revist them and reply to any further >comments posted. You're right. I'm just unused to the SF system so far. Trying to get used to it. In the request area it's not marked anywhere how many comments that has been added, so I'm a bit confused. I'm gonna track them better, thank you for the note mate =) >6/ Finally, the idea of a tree. >I appreciate the thought that in the future we may add more security >levels. It certainly has been something I've been thinking about as well and >if there were more hours in a day I probably would have coded something by >now but I'm not totally convinced that a tree structure is the most >appropriate navigation tool. If I don't run out of time during my days off >I'll create a tree and an alternative approach and we can vote on it. I include a screenshot of a different system where you can perhaps get some inspiration. See attached zip file... And not to forget... Great work gentlemen =) // CreativeMinds |
From: Kon A. <ang...@ip...> - 2002-07-06 13:17:52
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Thanks for the zip I will certainly consider it. Kon On Sat, 6 Jul 2002 20:56, Creative Minds wrote: > Check answers below > > 2002-07-06 04:59:16, Kon Angelopoulos > > <ang...@ip...> wrote: > >Gday all, > > > >Just a few quick thoughts. > >1/ I recall a post to this list a while back where someone had raised > > the use > > >of frames. I do not use frames for my designs! There are quite a few > > good > > >reasons for this, some of which have been explained. > > Yepp, already explained. My Bad =( > > >2/ Creative Minds aka Rebirth aka ......., as a follow up to one of > > James' > > >posts "join project/more suggestions" I also have a full time job > > which sees > > >me behind my desk 12 hours a day. This might help explain why there > > hasn't > > >been any activity in the last 12 days..... > > Full understanding, I hope you saw my appoligize in the same e-mail =) > > >3/ I've replied to each of the following feature requests you've made > > (573852, > > >573854, 573862,573863,573866) but I'm still waiting on your replies > > to them so > > >that their evaluation can proceed. - could you please help out by > > visiting > > >the feature requests section of the phpESP project and follow up. > > My Bad again... Except for on 573852 didn't see any comment there. > I've visited the others mentioned and added a comment, probably mailed > to you by now. I do hope they clear some things out and that they'll > be considered to be included / stay on request list. > > Look forward to see further comments =). > > >4/ I like your idea of using images for buttons (feature request: > > 577886) and > > >will be implementing them in the new design. > > > >5/ As for the new GUI. I've got 7 days off as from the 15th of this > > month so I > > >will be devoting a lot of time to finishing the new GUI and > > incorporating as > > >many feature requests as possible. So its very important that if > > you've > > >submitted feature requests please revist them and reply to any > > further > > >comments posted. > > You're right. I'm just unused to the SF system so far. Trying to get > used to it. In the request area it's not marked anywhere how many > comments that has been added, so I'm a bit confused. I'm gonna track > them better, thank you for the note mate =) > > >6/ Finally, the idea of a tree. > >I appreciate the thought that in the future we may add more security > >levels. It certainly has been something I've been thinking about as > > well and > > >if there were more hours in a day I probably would have coded > > something by > > >now but I'm not totally convinced that a tree structure is the most > >appropriate navigation tool. If I don't run out of time during my > > days off > > >I'll create a tree and an alternative approach and we can vote on it. > > I include a screenshot of a different system where you can perhaps get > some inspiration. See attached zip file... > > And not to forget... Great work gentlemen =) > > // CreativeMinds |
From: James E. F. <jf...@ac...> - 2002-07-06 13:32:17
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On Sat, 6 Jul 2002, Creative Minds wrote: > Check answers below > > 2002-07-06 04:59:16, Kon Angelopoulos > <ang...@ip...> wrote: -snip- > > > 3/ I've replied to each of the following feature > > requests you've made (573852, 573854, 573862, 573863, > > 573866) but I'm still waiting on your replies to them so > > that their evaluation can proceed. - could you please > > help out by visiting the feature requests section of > > the phpESP project and follow up. > > My Bad again... Except for on 573852 didn't see any comment there. > I've visited the others mentioned and added a comment, probably mailed > to you by now. I do hope they clear some things out and that they'll > be considered to be included / stay on request list. > > Look forward to see further comments =). -snip- > > You're right. I'm just unused to the SF system so far. Trying to get > used to it. In the request area it's not marked anywhere how many > comments that has been added, so I'm a bit confused. I'm gonna track > them better, thank you for the note mate =) I think that I can make it so that any change to a feature request gets CC'd to the devel list (the way bug works). Is anyone opposed to that idea? Well, I will set it up that way, and if you don't like it complain and I'll change it back. That should make it easier for all of us to track requests and bugs. -James |
From: Creative M. <Cre...@Pu...> - 2002-07-07 09:52:40
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Sounds like a good idea! If it is possible, do it! // CM 2002-07-06 15:32:11, "James E. Flemer" <jf...@ac...> wrote: >On Sat, 6 Jul 2002, Creative Minds wrote: > >> Check answers below >> >> 2002-07-06 04:59:16, Kon Angelopoulos >> <ang...@ip...> wrote: >-snip- >> >> > 3/ I've replied to each of the following feature >> > requests you've made (573852, 573854, 573862, 573863, >> > 573866) but I'm still waiting on your replies to them so >> > that their evaluation can proceed. - could you please >> > help out by visiting the feature requests section of >> > the phpESP project and follow up. >> >> My Bad again... Except for on 573852 didn't see any comment there. >> I've visited the others mentioned and added a comment, probably mailed >> to you by now. I do hope they clear some things out and that they'll >> be considered to be included / stay on request list. >> >> Look forward to see further comments =). >-snip- >> >> You're right. I'm just unused to the SF system so far. Trying to get >> used to it. In the request area it's not marked anywhere how many >> comments that has been added, so I'm a bit confused. I'm gonna track >> them better, thank you for the note mate =) > >I think that I can make it so that any change to a feature >request gets CC'd to the devel list (the way bug works). >Is anyone opposed to that idea? Well, I will set it up that >way, and if you don't like it complain and I'll change it >back. That should make it easier for all of us to track >requests and bugs. > >-James > > > >------------------------------------------------------- >This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek >Got root? We do. >http://thinkgeek.com/sf >_______________________________________________ >phpESP-devel mailing list >php...@li... >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpesp-devel > |