Re: [phpesp-dev] updated version

[Matthew G. <mat...@gm...>]

It also depends on how much traction the particular framework has in the
community.  If no one uses Zend then support/community will be small.
Not that Zend isn't the way to go.  Just need to eval them.

On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 10:50 -0400, Bishop Bettini wrote:
> Yes, ZF is BSD license.
> http://framework.zend.com/license
> 
> Gut reaction: I would feel more comfortable using a framework that's  
> closely aligned with the company who writes the language.  Seems like  
> there would be a lot of synergy there.

> Of course, I have no objective evaluation... which is what is really  
> needed.  And of course, I'd feel more comfortable with a documented  
> list of goals with the rewrite so I could see if the framework moved  
> us toward those goals.
> 
> bishop
> 
> Quoting Franky Van Liedekerke <lie...@te...>:
> 
> > I heard good things about the zend framework, but is that open source?
> > Anyway, I will play around a bit with cakephp and symfony, I like the names
> > :-)
> >
> >
> >
> > Franky
> >
> > On 4/22/08, Bishop Bettini <ph...@id...> wrote:
> >>
> >> I have added CodeIgnitor and Zend Framework to the v3OpenQuestions page.
> >>
> >> How should we go about evaluating these frameworks?  Is there an
> >> objective method, maybe develop a very small application and
> >> compare/contrast how long it takes/number of lines used/speed/etc?
> >>
> >> Maybe the application could be a hello world: create a table, dump the
> >> string into the table (install relevant), write unit test cases (test
> >> design), write code to read the table (user facing relevant), write a
> >> form to change the string, commit the changes (admin relevant),
> >> exercise test cases (regression).
> >>
> >> Lot of work, especially if we each do all....
> >>
> >> bishop
> >>
> >> Quoting Matthew Gregg <mat...@gm...>:
> >>
> >> > I also agree that Horde wouldn't be a very good fit, but I would like to
> >> > evaluate at least CakePHP, Symfony, CodeIgniter and perhaps Zend
> >> > Framework.
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 09:54 +0200, Franky Van Liedekerke wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> On 4/21/08, Bishop Bettini <ph...@id...> wrote:
> >> >>         Yes, Horde (www.horde.org) comes to mind (except the unit test
> >> >>         part...).  They already have a "Polls" application (scry), so
> >> >>         Horde
> >> >>         might not be a good framework to use.  Did you have any
> >> >>         particular
> >> >>         frameworks in mind?
> >> >>
> >> >>         bishop
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> I've already seen horde, and it might be personal, but I don't like it
> >> >> very much ...
> >> >> Let's stick, like mentioned, to known technology: adodb (or pear, but
> >> >> then we lose the xml db updating again ...), some templating engine
> >> >> (smarty maybe?), etc ...
> >> >>
> >> >> Franky
> >> >>
> >> >>
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