Re: [phpesp-dev] updated version

[Matthew G. <mat...@gm...>]

Joel may be correct with projects the size of mozilla, but I'm not so
sure with something as small as ESP.  Especially since I would hope a
great deal of what is currently custom in the code-base would be
provided out of the box in most modern frameworks.


As for as a space for collaboration.  I can enable the wiki on the
Sourceforge site or drop an instance of Trac on our hosting service.

IRC is available here: irc://irc.freenode.net/phpesp/
Or if you would rather have a Jabber/XMPP conference room I can have
that available in a few seconds.


On Sun, 2008-04-20 at 19:38 -0400, Bishop Bettini wrote:
> While I agree the code is horrendous in many places, I caution against  
> a wholesale rewrite, for the reasons Joel gives here:
> http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000069.html
> 
> But, if that is the tack taken for v3, we should define the  
> requirements, write the functional specification, identify re-use and  
> re-factor candidates, decide on the platform tools, draw the road map,  
> and declare milestones.  In other words, do it right and try not to  
> make the same mistakes.
> 
> On that note, is there a wiki or some other collaboration space where  
> this information (requirements, specifications, etc) can be maintained?
> 
> bishop
> 
> Quoting Franky Van Liedekerke <lie...@te...>:
> 
> > On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 20:21:28 -0400
> > Matthew Gregg <mat...@gm...> wrote:
> >
> >> So many things need to be redone in the current code base:
> >> * Permission system
> >> * User management
> >> * The admin UI <-biggie
> >> * Survey results export
> >> * Survey question storage export/interchange
> >> * etc...
> >> and it's already in a pretty ugly state, that I have had "flip the
> >> switch and start over" in my head for a long time.  I have worked
> >> privately on a few proof of concepts for this, but never pushed to
> >> have something usable.  Current code could be put into maintenance
> >> mode and new dev only on this "branch".
> >
> > well, I agree here: the current code is ugly and I sometimes thought
> > about beginning from scratch again also. So I'm in favour of starting
> > over also.
> >
> > Franky
> >
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