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From: Manfred S. <cre...@tr...> - 2003-02-14 13:04:24
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hi everybody,
i think i'm now be able to make some changes.
my linux server understand what i want with cvs ;)
what i want to make: (see screenshot!)
1. statusbar for each download (not graphically, html table) [functions.inc]
2. make the user be able to change the font settings (not header and
footer: download list, server list and so on) by himself ("<font
".$conf->font.">)
the settings saved in the config.inc [functions.inc, config.inc]
3. then two little things: for myself i had make the changes, which u
can see under the downloadlist table...
want this anybody?
screenshot: http://www.trackproducer.de/phpeselgui/screenshot.jpg
anybody who does not agree with these changes?
greetz
manfred
p.s.: sven: i live 40km east of berlin.. but birth in berlin-mitte! :)
hi neighbor! :)
p.p.s.: i have much more ideas... :)
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From: Sven W. <sve...@in...> - 2003-02-14 13:17:18
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Manfred Stellenberg schrieb:
> hi everybody,
>
> i think i'm now be able to make some changes.
> my linux server understand what i want with cvs ;)
Linux is cool ;-)
>
> what i want to make: (see screenshot!)
> 1. statusbar for each download (not graphically, html table)
> [functions.inc]
I thought about it, too. What do the others think about Manfred's way!?
Would it be possible to put the bar behind the Text. I think so (td with
background-image, using css: edit the width and put a "no-repeat").
Would save space on the gui ;-)
> 2. make the user be able to change the font settings (not header and
> footer: download list, server list and so on) by himself ("<font
> ".$conf->font.">)
I'm a html purist, font things should be in the css or (at least) in
style=...
Maybe an extra config called personalDesign.inc or so? A seperation of
technical and design paramters...?
> the settings saved in the config.inc [functions.inc, config.inc]
> 3. then two little things: for myself i had make the changes, which u
> can see under the downloadlist table...
looks good, don't forget the localizer ;-)
> want this anybody?
>
> screenshot: http://www.trackproducer.de/phpeselgui/screenshot.jpg
>
> anybody who does not agree with these changes?
>
> greetz
> manfred
> p.s.: sven: i live 40km east of berlin.. but birth in berlin-mitte! :)
> hi neighbor! :)
I'm living in Mahlow and work in Berlin (born in Wiesbaden)
> p.p.s.: i have much more ideas... :)
Ideas are always good ;-)
>
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From: Manfred S. <cre...@tr...> - 2003-02-14 14:47:25
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sven:
>> what i want to make: (see screenshot!)
>> 1. statusbar for each download (not graphically, html table)
>> [functions.inc]
>
>
> I thought about it, too. What do the others think about Manfred's
> way!? Would it be possible to put the bar behind the Text. I think so
> (td with background-image, using css: edit the width and put a
> "no-repeat"). Would save space on the gui ;-)
thats right, ehm.. good idea...:)
*thoughtful*
i'll try it... or an other has it coded before?
(ehm, can i use "coded" or what should i use?)
>> 2. make the user be able to change the font settings (not header and
>> footer: download list, server list and so on) by himself ("<font
>> ".$conf->font.">)
>
> I'm a html purist, font things should be in the css or (at least) in
> style=...
> Maybe an extra config called personalDesign.inc or so? A seperation of
> technical and design paramters...?
oh yes, i forgot the css, i'm sorry...
an extra inc for personal design is a good way...
>> 3. then two little things: for myself i had make the changes, which u
>> can see under the downloadlist table...
>
> looks good, don't forget the localizer ;-)
well, now i think of it! :)
> I'm living in Mahlow and work in Berlin (born in Wiesbaden)
i'm work in berlin too...ähm: ausbildung zum fachinformatiker
please translate this anyone?:)
roman:
>Hi Manfred, nice to have you in the team
>
>
thanks, i hope i will be a support..
>>1. statusbar for each download (not graphically, html table)
>>[functions.inc]
>>
>>
>I haven't seen the code of your table yet, but isn't that a "dirty" hack
>of html? I suggest to add a single pixel to the themes which can be
>stretched (i think it's <img src="image.png"
>width="$percent(/,*)$divisor"> where percent is the status of the
>download and divisor is just a value that the bar can be scaled (e.g. if
>divisor is "*2" it is 200 pixels large, if it's "/2", it's 50 pixels)
>
>
dirty hack? no...
$tdwidth = floor($value[prozent]);
echo "<table width=\"100%\" border=\"0\" cellspacing=\"0\"
cellpadding=\"0\">\n";
echo "<tr>\n";
echo "<td width=\"".$tdwidth."%\" bgcolor=\"#C7F8B8\"><font
size=\"-3\"> </font></td>";
$tdwidth = 100 - $tdwidth;
echo "<td width=\"".$tdwidth."%\" bgcolor=\"\"><font
size=\"-3\"> </font></td>";
echo "</tr>\n";
echo "</table>\n";
simple! :)
i think it's the best way to stay platform independent...(?)
u're way would be running too but every load of an image is needed more time
i know, its a very small image...
my thoughts...
>Isn't the font something which should be handled by themes? I suggest we
>better do this in the css and put only "important" options in the
>config.inc
>
>
right, its better... see my answer to sven...
probably we can code a setup.php?!
so that the gui becomes more customizable... *!?*
one idea... :)
>Well... i think i didn't told you where i come from yet, so here it
>comes:
>I'm from germany, too. But not also from Berlin but from the South...
>about 30 kilometers from Stuttgart
>
>
*g* cool... germany has more developer! *g*
>Another thing: Now, that phpEselGui is definitively an international
>project, shouldn't the standard-setting in the config.inc be english?
>
a must! and.. delete the localizer.. no, just a joke.. but more
languages will needed...:)
greetz
manfred
p.s.: sven, can u change my email adress for the mailinglist into:
"man...@gm..." ?
i have some problems with this account....
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From: Sven W. <sve...@in...> - 2003-02-14 15:03:05
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Manfred Stellenberg schrieb:
> sven:
>=20
>>> what i want to make: (see screenshot!)
>>> 1. statusbar for each download (not graphically, html table)=20
>>> [functions.inc]
>>
>>
>>
>> I thought about it, too. What do the others think about Manfred's=20
>> way!? Would it be possible to put the bar behind the Text. I think so=20
>> (td with background-image, using css: edit the width and put a=20
>> "no-repeat"). Would save space on the gui ;-)=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> thats right, ehm.. good idea...:)
> *thoughtful*
> i'll try it... or an other has it coded before?
> (ehm, can i use "coded" or what should i use?)
After having read many (!) sites:
It isn't possible to resize a background image :-(
But there is a way, i paste my unfinished code here, i think with this=20
it's a small step ;-)
***
echo " <td>\n";
echo "<div style=3D\"width:100%;height:100%;position:relative;\"=
>";
echo " <img src=3D\"../_sauteurs/_images/back.gif\"=20
style=3D\"width:$value[prozent]%; height:12px; position:absolute;=20
left:0px; top:0px; z-index:1;\">";
echo " <span style=3D\"z-index:2400; position:relative\">";
echo htmlentities($value[name])."</span></div>\n";
echo " </td>\n";
***
isn't it confusing, div and span and z-index... but it works (Mozilla=20
1.2.1) :-)
Things to change:
- correct coding (tabs, spaces, linebreaks...)
- image-height fixed to 12px is bad
- one-color-image has to be put in themes/default/percentBack.png/.gif=20
(and of cource the src=3Dshould be correct ;-)
> p.s.: sven, can u change my email adress for the mailinglist into:=20
> "man...@gm..." ?
> i have some problems with this account....
done ;-)
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>=20
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From: Manfred S. <man...@gm...> - 2003-02-14 16:14:02
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> isn't it confusing, div and span and z-index... but it works (Mozilla > 1.2.1) :-) > Things to change: > - correct coding (tabs, spaces, linebreaks...) > - image-height fixed to 12px is bad > - one-color-image has to be put in themes/default/percentBack.png/.gif > (and of cource the src=should be correct ;-) fine, it works. without an image it would be better, but a good alternative to my code... ;) height: with an "100%" (instead of "12px") it is similar to the font size, but not similar with the row size.. that looks not so good... anyone an idea? oh, i've set it to 125%.. and now.. it is similar to the row size.. but.. with all browsers? or we set it to 10% so that it is a small line... look also good... so.. that, i think so, looks very good... i've set height to 20%, top to 120% so the statusbar is under the filename... i make a screenshot... http://www.trackproducer.de/phpeselgui/screenshot1.jpg |
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From: Sven W. <sve...@in...> - 2003-02-14 16:24:45
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try this one: <img src=3D\"../_sauteurs/_images/back.gif\" style=3D\"width:$va lue[prozent]%; height:100%; position:absolute; left:0px; z-index:1;\"> (100% and no "top") Manfred Stellenberg schrieb: >> isn't it confusing, div and span and z-index... but it works (Mozilla=20 >> 1.2.1) :-) >> Things to change: >> - correct coding (tabs, spaces, linebreaks...) >> - image-height fixed to 12px is bad >> - one-color-image has to be put in themes/default/percentBack.png/.gif= =20 >> (and of cource the src=3Dshould be correct ;-) >=20 >=20 > fine, it works. without an image it would be better, but a good=20 > alternative to my code... ;) >=20 > height: with an "100%" (instead of "12px") it is similar to the font=20 > size, but not similar with the row size.. > that looks not so good... > anyone an idea? >=20 > oh, i've set it to 125%.. and now.. it is similar to the row size..=20 > but.. with all browsers? >=20 > or we set it to 10% so that it is a small line... look also good... >=20 > so.. that, i think so, looks very good... > i've set height to 20%, top to 120% > so the statusbar is under the filename... i make a screenshot... >=20 > http://www.trackproducer.de/phpeselgui/screenshot1.jpg >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.NET email is sponsored by: FREE SSL Guide from Thawte > are you planning your Web Server Security? Click here to get a FREE > Thawte SSL guide and find the answers to all your SSL security issues. > http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?thaw0026en > _______________________________________________ > Phpeselgui-developer mailing list > Php...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpeselgui-developer >=20 >=20 --=20 Sven Walther, sve...@in... Infopark AG Kitzingstr. 15, D-12277 Berlin, Germany Tel +49 30 747993-0, Fax +49 30 747993-93 http://www.infopark.de/ Besuchen Sie uns vom 12.-19.03. auf der CeBIT 2003, Messegel=E4nde Hannover, Halle 6, Stand G39. Informieren Sie sich =FCber unsere Content Management Suite NPS und unsere Portal-L=F6sung NPS Portal Manager f=FCr kundenfreundliche Web-Sites. Vereinbaren Sie einen individuellen Informationstermin: http://www.infopark.de/termin/ |
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From: Manfred S. <man...@gm...> - 2003-02-14 16:39:02
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the same as u're first solution... for myself, i favourite the statusbar under the text...:) but, its not my program... await, what will say the others... |
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From: Manfred S. <man...@gm...> - 2003-02-14 17:39:57
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omg, not my day... i forgot that i've already have other fonts for my download page.. so the representation is other than yours.. (important for the statusbar) :/ sorry, i'll sleep a night and tomorrow the sun will shine... :-s nice evening@all |
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From: Roman K. <rom...@ep...> - 2003-02-14 16:45:43
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> an extra inc for personal design is a good way... In my opinion, users who want to individualize their GUI should write a new= theme... this is the way all other programs handle it... why should we go = other ways? > i'm work in berlin too...=E4hm: ausbildung zum fachinformatiker > please translate this anyone?:) http://www-user.tu-chemnitz.de/~fri/ding/ A very good translator Ausbildung =3D Training Fachinformatiker is something only existing in germany, i think "computer s= cientist" is the best description btw: I was a trainee for "Informatikkaufmann" a few months ago > dirty hack? no... well, i call "<td> </td> a hack... i don't want to say, that we have t= o completely renounce such things, but we should at least try to find bette= r ways to handle such situations > $tdwidth =3D floor($value[prozent]); > echo "<table width=3D\"100%\" border=3D\"0\" cellspacing=3D\"0\"=20 > cellpadding=3D\"0\">\n"; > echo "<tr>\n"; > echo "<td width=3D\"".$tdwidth."%\" bgcolor=3D\"#C7F8B8\"><font=20 > size=3D\"-3\"> </font></td>"; > $tdwidth =3D 100 - $tdwidth; > echo "<td width=3D\"".$tdwidth."%\" bgcolor=3D\"\"><font=20 > size=3D\"-3\"> </font></td>"; > echo "</tr>\n"; > echo "</table>\n"; >=20 > simple! :) > i think it's the best way to stay platform independent...(?) > u're way would be running too but every load of an image is needed more t= ime > i know, its a very small image... > my thoughts... What? You mean this chunk of code (each letter has 1 byte) is faster loaded than = a small 1-pixel-image with 256 colors? (also 1 byte, but only one time, bec= ause only 1 pixel). You must be kidding! > a must! and.. delete the localizer.. no, just a joke.. but more=20 > languages will needed...:) Therefor, we would need more native speakers... (btw. an english native spe= aker could support us very much, too) regards Roman |
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From: Roman K. <rom...@ep...> - 2003-02-14 13:35:30
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> hi everybody,
Hi Manfred, nice to have you in the team
> 1. statusbar for each download (not graphically, html table)
> [functions.inc]
I haven't seen the code of your table yet, but isn't that a "dirty" hack
of html? I suggest to add a single pixel to the themes which can be
stretched (i think it's <img src="image.png"
width="$percent(/,*)$divisor"> where percent is the status of the
download and divisor is just a value that the bar can be scaled (e.g. if
divisor is "*2" it is 200 pixels large, if it's "/2", it's 50 pixels)
> 2. make the user be able to change the font settings (not header and
> footer: download list, server list and so on) by himself ("<font
> ".$conf->font.">)
> the settings saved in the config.inc [functions.inc, config.inc]
Isn't the font something which should be handled by themes? I suggest we
better do this in the css and put only "important" options in the
config.inc
> 3. then two little things: for myself i had make the changes, which u
> can see under the downloadlist table...
> want this anybody?
yes, that looks nice... let's implement it ;)
> greetz
> manfred
> p.s.: sven: i live 40km east of berlin.. but birth in berlin-mitte! :)
>
> hi neighbor! :)
> p.p.s.: i have much more ideas... :)
Well... i think i didn't told you where i come from yet, so here it
comes:
I'm from germany, too. But not also from Berlin but from the South...
about 30 kilometers from Stuttgart
Another thing: Now, that phpEselGui is definitively an international
project, shouldn't the standard-setting in the config.inc be english?
regards
Roman
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From: Sven W. <sve...@in...> - 2003-02-14 13:39:02
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... >=20 >=20 > Another thing: Now, that phpEselGui is definitively an international > project, shouldn't the standard-setting in the config.inc be english? Yes, it should (it isn't because i was to lazy to switch it everytime i=20 built a .tar.gz :) >=20 >=20 > regards > Roman >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.NET email is sponsored by: FREE SSL Guide from Thawte > are you planning your Web Server Security? Click here to get a FREE > Thawte SSL guide and find the answers to all your SSL security issues. > http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?thaw0026en > _______________________________________________ > Phpeselgui-developer mailing list > Php...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpeselgui-developer >=20 >=20 --=20 Sven Walther, sve...@in... Infopark AG Kitzingstr. 15, D-12277 Berlin, Germany Tel +49 30 747993-0, Fax +49 30 747993-93 http://www.infopark.de/ Besuchen Sie uns vom 12.-19.03. auf der CeBIT 2003, Messegel=E4nde Hannover, Halle 6, Stand G39. Informieren Sie sich =FCber unsere Content Management Suite NPS und unsere Portal-L=F6sung NPS Portal Manager f=FCr kundenfreundliche Web-Sites. Vereinbaren Sie einen individuellen Informationstermin: http://www.infopark.de/termin/ |
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From: Manfred S. <man...@gm...> - 2003-02-14 17:00:41
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> > >>an extra inc for personal design is a good way... >> >> >In my opinion, users who want to individualize their GUI should write a new theme... this is the way all other programs handle it... why should we go other ways? > right... i must go to the doctor, my brain doesn't work well... >>dirty hack? no... >> >> >well, i call "<td> </td> a hack... i don't want to say, that we have to completely renounce such things, but we should at least try to find better ways to handle such situations > > btw. sven has found a good solution... >What? >You mean this chunk of code (each letter has 1 byte) is faster loaded than a small 1-pixel-image with 256 colors? (also 1 byte, but only one time, because only 1 pixel). You must be kidding! > > well, u're right... i'm sorry... |
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From: Roman K. <rom...@ep...> - 2003-02-15 00:40:12
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> right... i must go to the doctor, my brain doesn't work well... (...) > well, u're right... i'm sorry... There's no reason to apologize yourself... This is what discussion-lists are made for: Finding the best way to solve a problem by discussing the possibilities. Anyway, i'm glad that you accepted that a stretched image is better than an html-table with empty <td>s regards Roman |
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