From: <php...@li...> - 2012-05-24 03:34:23
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Hi there! I'm a bit knowledgeable about PHP (PHP3 :), and I'm a Java advocate (read that as: "maintained the OS/2 Java FAQ in 1996 back in the Java 1.0 days, believes Java is the right way to develop software, and runs several desktop Java apps daily on both Linux and Windows"). Having made that introduction... I've been trying to explore if running the latest greatest Joomla 2.5 CMS coded in PHP is possible under a Java web server. A lot of searching (and a lot of reading about tweaks and quirks when trying to use Joomla 1.5 over Quercus) led me finally to this php-java-bridge project. However, from a quick glimpse it seems this only works if one accepts heavily tweaking the source PHP code. So, my $1M dollar question would be: is this technology just for developers, or can I, after some initial configuration, finally run Joomla 2.5 "as is" under a J2EE server like Caucho's Resin, for instance?. TIA FC -- During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act Durante épocas de Engaño Universal, decir la verdad se convierte en un Acto Revolucionario - George Orwell |
From: <php...@li...> - 2012-05-24 05:33:07
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Hi I have been running Joomla 1.5/1.6/1.7/2.5 with PHP/JavaBridge om Tomcat (5.5, 6 and 7) without a hitch, and see no reason as to why you should not be able run it on any J2EE compliant Servlet Engine. Although I for some sites run the Joomla part on Apache httpd, with a Java backen on Tomcat - It all depends on how much what is most prevailent: static content or dynamic content from databases etc. Hermod -----Original Message----- From: php...@li... [mailto:php...@li...] Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 5:34 AM To: php...@li... Subject: [Php-java-bridge-users] Is the PHP-Java bridge a tool for developers, or end users? Hi there! I'm a bit knowledgeable about PHP (PHP3 :), and I'm a Java advocate (read that as: "maintained the OS/2 Java FAQ in 1996 back in the Java 1.0 days, believes Java is the right way to develop software, and runs several desktop Java apps daily on both Linux and Windows"). Having made that introduction... I've been trying to explore if running the latest greatest Joomla 2.5 CMS coded in PHP is possible under a Java web server. A lot of searching (and a lot of reading about tweaks and quirks when trying to use Joomla 1.5 over Quercus) led me finally to this php-java-bridge project. However, from a quick glimpse it seems this only works if one accepts heavily tweaking the source PHP code. So, my $1M dollar question would be: is this technology just for developers, or can I, after some initial configuration, finally run Joomla 2.5 "as is" under a J2EE server like Caucho's Resin, for instance?. TIA FC -- During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act Durante épocas de Engaño Universal, decir la verdad se convierte en un Acto Revolucionario - George Orwell ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ _______________________________________________ php-java-bridge-users mailing list php...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/php-java-bridge-users * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This email with attachments is solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. Please also be aware that the DNB Group cannot accept any payment orders or other legally binding correspondence with customers as a part of an email. This email message has been virus checked by the anti virus programs used in the DNB Group. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * |
From: <php...@li...> - 2012-05-24 05:46:14
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On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 2:32 AM, < php...@li...> wrote: > I have been running Joomla 1.5/1.6/1.7/2.5 with PHP/JavaBridge om Tomcat > (5.5, 6 and 7) without a hitch, and see no reason as to why you should not > be able run it on any J2EE compliant Servlet Engine. > > Although I for some sites run the Joomla part on Apache httpd, with a Java > backen on Tomcat - It all depends on how much what is most prevailent: > static content or dynamic content from databases etc. > > Hermod > Thanks Hermod! That is exciting news for me, as I kept reading about tweaks and errors wrt to running Joomla on top of Caucho.com's Quercus. See ie http://forum.caucho.com/showthread.php?t=28700 including others that talk about having to tweak session.php to make it work http://forum.caucho.com/showthread.php?t=1453 I then asked about running Joomla 1.7 on top of Quercus on the Quercus mailing list and got no reply. That wasn't very encouraging either. :) http://old.nabble.com/Joomla-1.7-on-Quercus---does-it-have-a-future--p32145514.html The encouraging news is that with the PHP-Java bridge one is actually running the real PHP, not a "separate, compatible php implementation written in Java". That should minimize problems. How does the auto-update feature of Joomla work, at least in your experience?. My idea is to run Joomla with a commercial News Site template (like iJoomla), on top of Caucho Resin. I'd like to avoid running Apache whenever possible, and instead use a pure-Java web server like Resin. Thanks for your positive report. If this works without major problems, this solution using php-java bridge should be promoted more!. I've seen lots of questions from users who want to run Joomla on a Java app server, or who ask "is there a Joomla version written in Java". Well, I think a J2EE server and Joomla's extensions and templates ecosystems is for now the best of both worlds... :) FC -- During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act - George Orwell |
From: <php...@li...> - 2012-05-24 05:57:35
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Hi Do not confuse Quercus with PHP/Javabridge. Quercus attempts to compile the PHP code into Java binary code (Hence all the problems you have seen), while PHP/JavaBridge lets you run it "as is" under FastCgi Hermod -----Original Message----- From: php...@li... [mailto:php...@li...] Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 7:46 AM To: php...@li... Subject: Re: [Php-java-bridge-users] Is the PHP-Java bridge a tool for developers, or end users? On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 2:32 AM, < php...@li...> wrote: > I have been running Joomla 1.5/1.6/1.7/2.5 with PHP/JavaBridge om > Tomcat (5.5, 6 and 7) without a hitch, and see no reason as to why you > should not be able run it on any J2EE compliant Servlet Engine. > > Although I for some sites run the Joomla part on Apache httpd, with a > Java backen on Tomcat - It all depends on how much what is most prevailent: > static content or dynamic content from databases etc. > > Hermod > Thanks Hermod! That is exciting news for me, as I kept reading about tweaks and errors wrt to running Joomla on top of Caucho.com's Quercus. See ie http://forum.caucho.com/showthread.php?t=28700 including others that talk about having to tweak session.php to make it work http://forum.caucho.com/showthread.php?t=1453 I then asked about running Joomla 1.7 on top of Quercus on the Quercus mailing list and got no reply. That wasn't very encouraging either. :) http://old.nabble.com/Joomla-1.7-on-Quercus---does-it-have-a-future--p32145514.html The encouraging news is that with the PHP-Java bridge one is actually running the real PHP, not a "separate, compatible php implementation written in Java". That should minimize problems. How does the auto-update feature of Joomla work, at least in your experience?. My idea is to run Joomla with a commercial News Site template (like iJoomla), on top of Caucho Resin. I'd like to avoid running Apache whenever possible, and instead use a pure-Java web server like Resin. Thanks for your positive report. If this works without major problems, this solution using php-java bridge should be promoted more!. I've seen lots of questions from users who want to run Joomla on a Java app server, or who ask "is there a Joomla version written in Java". Well, I think a J2EE server and Joomla's extensions and templates ecosystems is for now the best of both worlds... :) FC -- During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act - George Orwell ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ _______________________________________________ php-java-bridge-users mailing list php...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/php-java-bridge-users * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This email with attachments is solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. Please also be aware that the DNB Group cannot accept any payment orders or other legally binding correspondence with customers as a part of an email. This email message has been virus checked by the anti virus programs used in the DNB Group. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * |
From: <php...@li...> - 2012-05-24 06:00:02
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On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 2:53 AM, < php...@li...> wrote: > Do not confuse Quercus with PHP/Javabridge. Quercus attempts to compile > the PHP code into Java binary code (Hence all the problems you have seen), > while PHP/JavaBridge lets you run it "as is" under FastCgi Yes, I' m not confusing it at all. I was just telling my experience and where I was coming from (scared about all the hassles wrt Quercus), that' s why I was pleasantly surprised to hear of someone running Joomla from a J2EE server without major issues. FC |