Re: [Phortify-devel] Is it alive??

[Philip O. <ph...@th...>]

Hello Rick et al,

Rick, this is in reply to your email, sounds good!  Thus far we've all
come up somethin' like this  

Discuss.  What sounds good/horrible or missing or huh? :

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Features to Consider :
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 - user / group management    - intelligent,secure
 - function/class library     - useful,fast,secure
 - documentation!!!           - PHPdoc? docs are good!
 - example set (demo)         - think of interesting demo ideas :-)
 - useful secure sessions.    - jeremy brand / j-sessions
 - database design            - rick patel
 - website design             - simple,nice (philip olson?)
 - web hosting                - sourceforge,"mirrors"
 - healthy support system     - docs,list,forum,mentors,premium?
 - marketing!                 - use phortify!!!
 - other stuff
 - discuss

Everyone Speak up! We're all thinking about holidays right now, which is
good.  Eating very good.  Sleeping and eating combined very very good.
Hasta luego,

Philip

--.sig_of_moment

    [ Useful Learning is through a humble heart. ]



On Thu, 21 Dec 2000, Rick Patel wrote:

> First there needs to some type of feature list with most needed features 
> outlined. Then
> there needs to be a database design. What features should protify provide?
> Here the list I think we could start with:
> 
> - Manage users/groups for administrator. (Provide pages for 
> administrator to add/edit/delete users/groups
>    and associate users with multiple groups)
> - Provide library for programmer to check if user has been authenticated and
>    get related information about authenticated user (groups, etc)
> - Provide generic login/logout pages.
> 
> I'm offering to do the database design if you want. Maybe something 
> simple to start with
> and then we could discuss what needs to be added and changed.
> 
> 
> - Rick
> 
> 
> Philip Olson wrote:
> 
> > Hey Philipp et al-
> > 
> > I agree that phortify could be very useful for everyone and to do so
> > requires some important features with one, as you say, being "multiple
> > auth levels" We all need to sit down and really think about the best way
> > to do this and to not set limitations.  Like, I want 30 levels for a
> > project, 2 levels for another.  
> > 
> > Regarding time-out function, what do you mean?
> > 
> > No really useful version exists outside of tims code.  Long ago I took
> > the code and made it more generic but nothing special, I've "grown up"
> > since then and realize I hadn't done any real coding :-)
> > 
> > Regarding sessions, one idea is to include a version of Jeremy's
> > gpl session code into phortify :
> > 
> >    http://www.nirvani.net/software/j-sessions-1.0.0-pre1/
> > 
> > Jeremy has expressed interest in doing this and once we, the phortify
> > crew,  get our arses going j-sessions will grow right along.  Including
> > sessions is obviously a good thing. We could use php4 native session
> > support too but I think j-sessions is php3 friendly, is that important
> > these days?  Also, php4 session support has had some issues in the past, i
> > think all are ironed out now though.  Discuss.
> > 
> > Other potential features exist, we need a few people to actively work on
> > Phortify and I personally don't have the motivation or experience to do it
> > alone as this is such an important and critical part of a website and must
> > be very secure and optimized, no bullshit.
> > 
> > So, that's that.  It's very suprising to me that nobody has really
> > stepped up and created a trully useful generic auth system ... SO, let's
> > do it.  The dream of Phortify is to be just that.  The demand is there.
> > 
> > Philipp, where do you see your role in such a venture?  Background and
> > expertise are in what?  Reply on or off the list.  I'll send an email to
> > all developers "on staff" and trim down to those interested in
> > contributing.  That will be done right now.
> > 
> > TTYL,
> > 
> > Philip
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  On Thu, 21 Dec 2000, Philipp Wanning wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >> Hi,
> >> 
> >> i have found your project at phpbuilder.com. And i have read philips mail
> >> "Phortify has been awakened!".
> >> It seems that this is the project everyone, who dont want to use phplib, is
> >> looking for.
> >> My questions:
> >> 1. Does a new version different to Tims exist?
> >> 2. Can i contribute?
> >> 
> >> Features i would love:
> >> - different levels/groups
> >> - time-out function
> >> 
> >> The problem with the "plain text - way of login" should not have main focus.
> >> you can use something like phplibs solution or even better use SSL.
> >> 
> >> Philipp Wanning
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
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