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From: Kyle B. <kyl...@qu...> - 2002-11-08 18:34:58
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Hi Philip, It seems as though you are doing a lot of work to embed PerlUnit into your development environment when you don't have to. There is another project called CppUnit that would save you a lot of time and headache. http://cppunit.sourceforge.net Cheers, Kyle Brost ---- Senior Software Developer Quest Software 909 - 11th Avenue SW, Suite 800 Office: 403.264.8322 ext. 234 Fax: 403.265.5307 www.quest.com -----Original Message----- From: Phlip [mailto:pl...@sy...] Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 11:28 AM To: per...@li... Subject: [Perlunit-users] Test-Unit on Win32: OutputDebugString at 'assert' failure time? Perlies: I like unit tests. My employers like Win32, VC++, and Perl. So here I am writing an "acceptance test" rig for our VC++ code, and it calls Perl embedded in the C++ code. When an assertion fails, such as this one... $self -> assert ($result =~ /LW is god/); ...I want the VC++ Output window to contain the file name, line number, and spit-list of the failure: c:\projects\testage.pm:14: get a clue, homey... That way I can tap <F4> and go straight to the offending line in the editor. No more reading & GotoLine-ing. That's the computer's job. (Other Perl editors may support these kinds of features before the new Millenium is old...) So first I get OutputDebugString from here: Win32-API-OutputDebugString-0.03.tar.gz Now I feel like overriding Test::Unit::Debug::debug so it also pushes text out OutputDebugString: use Test::Unit::Debug; { package Test::Unit::Debug; *Test::Unit::Debug::debug = sub { my ($package, $filename, $line) = caller(); print $out "***************************************that's the facts, Jack!\n"; print $out @_ if $DEBUG{$package}; } } That's as far as I can decipher the documentation on global hostile takeover-style overrides. But even with "strict" and "-w" turned off, Perl still screams at me: "Subroutine debug redefined..." Then, if Perl think's it's "redefined" (past-tense), why don't Perl then call it? How am I expected to do this? (BTW I can't "inherit" Test::Unit::Debug and then overload because the other Test-Unit stuff won't call my derived class.) -- Phlip http://www.greencheese.org/NorovostokNovus -- All sensors report Patti having a very good time -- ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by: See the NEW Palm Tungsten T handheld. Power & Color in a compact size! http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?palm0001en _______________________________________________ Perlunit-users mailing list Per...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/perlunit-users |
From: Phlip <pl...@sy...> - 2002-11-08 18:29:57
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Perlies: I like unit tests. My employers like Win32, VC++, and Perl. So here I am writing an "acceptance test" rig for our VC++ code, and it calls Perl embedded in the C++ code. When an assertion fails, such as this one... $self -> assert ($result =~ /LW is god/); ...I want the VC++ Output window to contain the file name, line number, and spit-list of the failure: c:\projects\testage.pm:14: get a clue, homey... That way I can tap <F4> and go straight to the offending line in the editor. No more reading & GotoLine-ing. That's the computer's job. (Other Perl editors may support these kinds of features before the new Millenium is old...) So first I get OutputDebugString from here: Win32-API-OutputDebugString-0.03.tar.gz Now I feel like overriding Test::Unit::Debug::debug so it also pushes text out OutputDebugString: use Test::Unit::Debug; { package Test::Unit::Debug; *Test::Unit::Debug::debug = sub { my ($package, $filename, $line) = caller(); print $out "***************************************that's the facts, Jack!\n"; print $out @_ if $DEBUG{$package}; } } That's as far as I can decipher the documentation on global hostile takeover-style overrides. But even with "strict" and "-w" turned off, Perl still screams at me: "Subroutine debug redefined..." Then, if Perl think's it's "redefined" (past-tense), why don't Perl then call it? How am I expected to do this? (BTW I can't "inherit" Test::Unit::Debug and then overload because the other Test-Unit stuff won't call my derived class.) -- Phlip http://www.greencheese.org/NorovostokNovus -- All sensors report Patti having a very good time -- |
From: Adam S. <ad...@sp...> - 2002-06-14 10:45:29
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Adam Spiers (ad...@sp...) wrote: > I've released Test-Unit-0.23 on CPAN and sourceforge.net. There are > countless improvements over the last release; see the ChangeLog for > all the gory details. Argh ... I missed a bunch of files from the MANIFEST. 0.24 is out, and hopefully will actually work. -- ## Adam Spiers ## musician & hacker ## me...@ad... ## http://tigerpig.org $@=>$_=q^*{$Just =bless{},'$another ';"\$Perl \::$hacker,"}=sub{print$%[$.++];$ },eval join+v45.62,(q)$q ))x v54^,s.(?<=\$)\w*[\s,].f if+push@%,$&.sixmegs,eval |
From: Adam S. <ad...@sp...> - 2002-06-13 16:19:38
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I've released Test-Unit-0.23 on CPAN and sourceforge.net. There are countless improvements over the last release; see the ChangeLog for all the gory details. Please give it a good thrashing and send feedback here. Thanks, Adam -- ## Adam Spiers ## musician & hacker ## me...@ad... ## http://tigerpig.org $@=>$_=q^*{$Just =bless{},'$another ';"\$Perl \::$hacker,"}=sub{print$%[$.++];$ },eval join+v45.62,(q)$q ))x v54^,s.(?<=\$)\w*[\s,].f if+push@%,$&.sixmegs,eval |
From: Adam S. <ad...@sp...> - 2002-05-23 14:32:25
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I'm about to change things so that these will no longer pass: $test->assert_str_equals(undef, ''); $test->assert_str_equals('', undef); $test->assert_num_equals(undef, 0); $test->assert_num_equals(0, undef); since it's very easily conceivable that they could result in passes where there should be failures, and that is a huge no-no for test frameworks. If someone really wants to consider undef as equivalent to '' or 0, they can always manipulate the values before passing them as parameters. Speak up very swiftly if you have any objections ;-) |
From: KAMPANYA <trk...@tt...> - 2002-05-19 09:56:36
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From: Ucretsiz S. L. <say...@tu...> - 2002-03-14 23:10:10
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From: Adam S. <ad...@sp...> - 2002-02-24 11:45:59
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Oliver Fischer (pl...@sn...) wrote: > - I run this version of perl: > > C:\>perl -v > > This is perl, v5.6.1 built for MSWin32-x86-multi-thread > (with 1 registered patch, see perl -V for more detail) > > Copyright 1987-2001, Larry Wall > > Binary build 631 provided by ActiveState Tool Corp. > http://www.ActiveState.com > Built 17:16:22 Jan 2 2002 > > - Test::Unit was installed via the active state package manger. > > - base.pm has version 1.01 > > Hope that helps... Hmm, it's not what I thought then. The best advice I can give is to checkout the CVS version from sourceforge and try that, because there have been countless improvements and bugfixes since the last release. Piers, any thoughts on a release date, and the outstanding stuff in doc/TODO? |
From: Oliver F. <pl...@sn...> - 2002-02-24 09:42:09
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Hi, > I can't be sure because you didn't include the errors in your mail, > but it sounds like you're probably suffering from the buggy base.pm > which comes with older versions (e.g. 5.005 IIRC) of Perl. For this > reason the CVS tree includes a dependency on at least version 1.00 of > base.pm. yes, you are right, I should have done this. Ok, here they are: C:\devel\CVSWrapper\src>perl -I./ c:\perl\site\lib\Test\TestRunner.pl CVSWrapper ::punit::CommandOptionPT .F.F.F.F Time: 0 wallclock secs ( 0.00 usr + 0.01 sys = 0.01 CPU) !!!FAILURES!!! Test Results: Run: 4 Failures: 4 Errors: 0 There were 4 failures: 1) (CVSWrapper::punit::CommandOptionPT) Test::Unit::ExceptionFailure: Method not found Level 1: in package 'Test::Unit::TestCase', file 'C:/Perl/site/lib/Test/Unit/TestCase.pm', at line '69', sub 'Test::Unit::Assert::fail' Level 2: in package 'Test::Unit::TestCase', file 'C:/Perl/site/lib/Test/Unit/TestCase.pm', at line '48', sub 'Test::Unit::TestCase::run_test' Level 3: in package 'Test::Unit::TestCase', file 'C:/Perl/site/lib/Test/Unit/TestCase.pm', at line '47', sub '(eval)' Level 4: in package 'Test::Unit::TestResult', file 'C:/Perl/site/lib/Test/Unit/TestResult.pm', at line '99', sub 'Test::Unit::TestCase::run_bare' Level 5: in package 'Test::Unit::TestResult', file 'C:/Perl/site/lib/Test/Unit/TestResult.pm', at line '109', sub 'Test::Unit::TestResult::__ANON__' Level 6: in package 'Test::Unit::TestResult', file 'C:/Perl/site/lib/Test/Unit/TestResult.pm', at line '108', sub '(eval)' Level 7: in package 'Test::Unit::TestResult', file 'C:/Perl/site/lib/Test/Unit/TestResult.pm', at line '99', sub 'Test::Unit::TestResult::run_protected' Level 8: in package 'Test::Unit::TestCase', file 'C:/Perl/site/lib/Test/Unit/TestCase.pm', at line '39', sub 'Test::Unit::TestResult::run' Level 9: in package 'Test::Unit::TestSuite', file 'C:/Perl/site/lib/Test/Unit/TestSuite.pm', at line '118', sub 'Test::Unit::TestCase::run' Level 10: in package 'Test::Unit::TestRunner', file 'C:/Perl/site/lib/Test/Unit/ TestRunner.pm', at line '58', sub 'Test::Unit::TestSuite::run' Level 11: in package 'Test::Unit::TestRunner', file 'C:/Perl/site/lib/Test/Unit/ TestRunner.pm', at line '196', sub 'Test::Unit::TestRunner::do_run' Level 12: in package 'main', file 'c:\perl\site\lib\Test\TestRunner.pl', at line '4', sub 'Test::Unit::TestRunner::start' - I run this version of perl: C:\>perl -v This is perl, v5.6.1 built for MSWin32-x86-multi-thread (with 1 registered patch, see perl -V for more detail) Copyright 1987-2001, Larry Wall Binary build 631 provided by ActiveState Tool Corp. http://www.ActiveState.com Built 17:16:22 Jan 2 2002 Perl may be copied only under the terms of either the Artistic License or the GNU General Public License, which may be found in the Perl 5 source kit. Complete documentation for Perl, including FAQ lists, should be found on this system using `man perl' or `perldoc perl'. If you have access to the Internet, point your browser at http://www.perl.com/, the Perl Home Page. - Test::Unit was installed via the active state package manger. - base.pm has version 1.01 Hope that helps... Nice Sunday..... Oliver |
From: Adam S. <ad...@sp...> - 2002-02-23 23:39:23
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Oliver Fischer (pl...@sn...) wrote: > At first: Thanks for bringing Beck's test framework to Perl! > > Today I wrote my first test cases and stepped in a possible trap. I startet > my test classs by following the example provided in TestCase.pm > > package FooBar; > > use base qw(Test::Unit::TestCase); > > sub new { > my $self = shift()->SUPER::new(@_); > # your state for fixture here > return $self; > } > > Unfortunately this code caused only errors on my system (w2k and AS Perl). I can't be sure because you didn't include the errors in your mail, but it sounds like you're probably suffering from the buggy base.pm which comes with older versions (e.g. 5.005 IIRC) of Perl. For this reason the CVS tree includes a dependency on at least version 1.00 of base.pm. |
From: Oliver F. <pl...@sn...> - 2002-02-21 21:05:31
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At first: Thanks for bringing Beck's test framework to Perl! Today I wrote my first test cases and stepped in a possible trap. I startet my test classs by following the example provided in TestCase.pm package FooBar; use base qw(Test::Unit::TestCase); sub new { my $self = shift()->SUPER::new(@_); # your state for fixture here return $self; } Unfortunately this code caused only errors on my system (w2k and AS Perl). So I changed the code. This is working... package CVSWrapper::punit::CommandOptionPT; use Test::Unit::TestCase; @ISA = qw'Test::Unit::TestCase'; sub new { my $type = shift; my $self = new Test::Unit::TestCase(@_); bless $self, $type; return $self; } Is the documentation wrong or what is the reason? Thanks and bye... Oliver -- Oliver Fischer - mailto:pl...@sn... |
From: Adam S. <ad...@sp...> - 2002-02-18 17:23:14
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Jonas B. Nielsen (jo...@wa...) wrote: > Hello All, > > I am a member of 'Copenhagen Perl Mongers', tomorrow we are having > our monthly meeting and I am giving a brief overview of Test::Unit, > together with a comparison with other perl test modules. Cool :-) > So what I did was to sit down a play around with the modules. So far > I have focused on the OOP part (Test::Unit::TestCase) as outlined in > the POD. > > So I wrote a simple class, well actually the classic class Employee, > you know the one that inherits from Person etc. > > So I gave it the attributes name, department and title and then > everything went wrong. > > It seems the Test::Unit::TestCase suffers from a serious problem > with namespace. I'm not sure I understand the problem. Could you show us some code please, and more details on what goes wrong? > But shouldn't we look into getting this fixed? Certainly, if it's a problem with PerlUnit. > All my perl code these days is OOP, so I would very much to > contribute with as much to this work as I can, I can also contribute > as a developer resource if you are in need of extra resources. That would be great! Please send patches to the perlunit-devel list. Adam |
From: Jonas B. N. <jo...@wa...> - 2002-02-17 11:48:07
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Hello All, I am a member of 'Copenhagen Perl Mongers', tomorrow we are having our = monthly meeting and I am giving a brief overview of Test::Unit, together = with a comparison with other perl test modules. So what I did was to sit down a play around with the modules. So far I = have focused on the OOP part (Test::Unit::TestCase) as outlined in the = POD. So I wrote a simple class, well actually the classic class Employee, you = know the one that inherits from Person etc. So I gave it the attributes name, department and title and then = everything went wrong. It seems the Test::Unit::TestCase suffers from a serious problem with = namespace. I have had a look at jUnit, to see whether it is the same = case here, but this does not seem to be the case, due to a different = protection scheme - or a protection scheme if you like. But shouldn't we look into getting this fixed? I think that perl should be represented as one of the xUnit frameworks, = but it should also work if it is supposed to stand a chance in the xUnit = community. All my perl code these days is OOP, so I would very much to contribute = with as much to this work as I can, I can also contribute as a developer = resource if you are in need of extra resources. jonasbn jo...@wa... || icq: 62401545 http://jonasbn.hjem.wanadoo.dk |
From: kriss r. <kri...@ao...> - 2002-01-24 16:34:18
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These are the items that iam interested in selling.. Could you help me with some details on the goods, history, origin etc. are these worth anything and if so who would i contact with regards to selling them? and the best way to sell them ie auction etc APOLOGISE IF YOU HAVE ALREADY RECEIVED THIS E-MAIL JPEGS ARE AVAILABLE AT YOUR REQUEST MANY THANX kriss rolo tel: 0044 182760393 office (uk) 0044 1216864211 home (uk) 0044 7814294018 mobile (uk) return e-mail address kri...@ao... UK ONLY VEHICLE REGISTRATION NUMBER N64 CON NINTENDO 64 CONSOLE item 1 hand carved round table with metal chain link in the middle item 2 magnum laurent perrier vintage 1988 champagne item 3 miniture football on stand from euro96 signed by pele and bobby charlton item 4 is a bit more interesting. its a protana minifon attache, as u will see ive enclosed notes from a web site regarding this and you will see back in the 50's it cost $340.00 so i could imagine this to be worth a bit. it also has an original tape inside i do not know what is on this tape, but judging by who made it and the cost of the machine, the tape could have some important information on it. heres the note..... The Minifon, developed in the early 1950s by Monske GMBH of Hanover(or by Protona GMBH- I'm not certain), was an ultra-miniaturized, battery operated magnetic recording device. It could not (initially at least) record the full range of sounds and was thus limited to voice recording, but it did offer easy portability in a very small package. The idea of offering a pocket dictating machine was novel, since dictation had previously been done in the office. However, it was thought that people like salesmen could take the machine "on the road" with them. Once on the market, the Minifon's promoters discovered that many people took advantage of the recorder's small size to make secret recordings to be used as evidence, as in court.<BR> <BR> The "legitimate" use of the Minifon, as a dictating machine, was somewhat problematical. Recordings made on regular dictating equipment were usually letters, and thus were normally sent almost immediately to a typist. The Minifon offered no obvious advantages over standard dictation equipment for office use, but its developers hoped to cultivate new uses for dictation equipment, such as stock taking in warehouses, or the use of the machine as a substitute for note-taking by reporters, insurance adjusters, salesmen, and others. In its original form, the Minifon was a wire recorder, using a type of wire medium developed by the Armour Research Foundation of Chicago and employed in many similar devices since the late 1940s. The machine at its introduction in 1952 had a recording time of one hour, which was remarkably long, and weighed only about 3 pounds at a time when a typical office dictating machine weighed upwards of 10 pounds. It accomplished this small size and light weight in part through the use of miniature tubes and clever mechanical design. The basic machine cost $289.50-- a price that sounds high today but was very much in line with competing office dictating machines. The parent company attempted to set up distribution, sales and service networks in the United States. It established a business office called the Minifon Export Corp in New York, and an existing company, Harvey Radio in New York City became the main distributor. Although smaller tape recorders appeared at about the same time, the main competition in the voice recording field was from an American company, Mohawk, which made a small, battery-operated cartridge tape recorder called the Migetape. Both products sold less than 10,000 units per year in the U.S.<BR> After a few years, the Minifon was modified to use transistors and magnetic tape, further lowering its weight and cost. By 1962 the basic machine weighed in at only 1.5 pounds. Competition by this time had helped bring the cost down to $249.50. The Minifon after about 1962 was distributed by the international conglomerate ITT through its subsidiary in the U.S., Federal Electric Corp. A little later, distribution was taken over by the ITT Distributor Products Division in Lodi, New Jersey. (I don't know whether these were the same company with different names) By the time ITT became associated with this product, it had taken on the name of Minifon "Attache," and a new line of models and options appeared. These included a hi-fi model, the 978H, which sold for $330.50.Usinga two-track, 1/4 inch tape cartridge operating at 1 7/8 inches per second, the machine claimed a frequency response of up to 12,000 Hz, plus or minus 3db. The coming of magnetic tape did not completely displace wire. The Model 240 series of recorders introduced in the early 1960s were probably the last wire recorders in regular production. The 240L, at a price of $269.50 used a special long-playing wire cartridge that held 4 hours of wire. Otherwise it looked like both the tape model and the 240S, which used a 2-hour wire cartridge and sold for $249.50. Another innovation was the introduction of more conventional recorders. After years of offering only "half" of a complete dictation system, Minifon finally developed a restyled, non-portable "office" machine, mainly for use by a transcriber, with pedal controls. By the mid-1960s, Minifon was trying to market its machines as multi-purpose devices suitable for nearly any recording need. In addition to the hi-fi and long-playing machines, the company offered an astounding variety of optional equipment such as foot controls, microphones, external amplifiers and loudspeakers, headsets, external power supplies, telephone recording attachments, conference recording adapters. One of the most interesting options were the miniature microphones intended to allow users to make "spy" recordings. In addition to a small tie-clip microphone, the Minifon could be equipped with a microphone disguised as a wrist- watch. |
From: Adam S. <ad...@sp...> - 2002-01-23 14:32:27
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Kyle Brost (Kyl...@qu...) wrote: > I have recently picked up the package and I'm using it with some success. > So far, I only have one 'TestCase' module with multiple tests. I'm using > the Test::Unit::TestRunner to kick off the tests. Currently it executes all > tests within the module. Is there anyway to control which tests it > executes? Set a package global in your test case: our @TESTS = qw(method1 method2); That's not documented, or even tested. Hrm. Added to docs/TODO... |
From: Andrew M. <am...@xa...> - 2002-01-16 23:56:38
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Hi! Just thought to let you guys know. We (http://xao.com/) use Test::Unit for all of our development, you can check it out on CPAN or freshmeat - just search for 'xao'. This is a hierarchical database API, web templating system and some other pretty interesting modules with quite complex tests sometimes. Although we do not use all functionality provided I think that the way we use it is very flexible and powerful. If anyone wants to adopt the same style - feel free. And if you want to ask questions -- go ahead, I'm subscribed to this list. The difference in our approach is that we use a self-made test.pl script that builds stubs for testacases and the executes them in random order. For each .pm test case module it build two scripts, one .t for normal perl testing and one .pl to run by hands if something goes wrong and one wants to get more readable output and more details. All in all -- Test::Unit works great for us! Thanx to all developers. Andrew. |
From: Kyle B. <Kyl...@qu...> - 2002-01-16 23:25:32
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Hi, I have recently picked up the package and I'm using it with some success. So far, I only have one 'TestCase' module with multiple tests. I'm using the Test::Unit::TestRunner to kick off the tests. Currently it executes all tests within the module. Is there anyway to control which tests it executes? Thanks, Kyle Brost ---- |
From: Piers C. <pdc...@bo...> - 2001-12-10 09:01:42
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Christian Lemburg <le...@ai...> writes: > Matthias Ferber <mf...@hi...> writes: > >> Hi folks, >> >> This seems to be a near-dead mailing list, but perhaps still the best way >> to contact the minds behind PerlUnit. So, tally-ho. (There does seem to >> be activity on SourceForge, so I'm hopeful that I'm not yelling into a >> vacuum here.) > > No you are not - but the main activity is happening on perlunit-devel. > >> I'm leading a rather optimistic covert effort to popularize JUnit and >> friends in my company's development environment. We use both Java and >> Perl, which makes PerlUnit an attractive variant. I've been playing with >> it over the last few days and I like it, but the available docs don't >> supply a lot of context for gauging where it is. >> >> My main question is, can you give me any vague idea of how stable you feel >> PerlUnit is at this point? I'd like very much to put it to active use at >> work to some extent. It's clearly still well in the development stage, so >> I understand that anything I do with it is At My Own Risk. But I'm hoping >> that if this is a really bad idea at this point because everything is >> going to change completely, someone will wave me off, at least. > > Well, let's put it that way: nearly all of the email that I have > received and a lot of the posts on perlunit-devel seem to indicate > that people do already use PerlUnit at work. > > I don't think that everything is going to change completely, but you > might have a word about that with the folks on perlunit-devel. Still, > the basic idea is to provide an implementation of the XUnit framework > for Perl, and that is relatively stable. Do you have any specific > things you are worried about? Actually, we're in the process of changing the interface quite a bit: All those Test::Unit::TestFoo type classes are tending to become Test::Unit::Foo type classes for instance. We're also trying to work out how to rename Test::Unit::TestHarness and Test::Unit::HarnessTest to something a little less confusing. Test::Unit is now Test::Unit::Procedural and Test::Unit is just a place holder for docs pointing the reader at the 'real' classes. There's a whole bunch of stuff in /docs/TODO on the HEAD CVS branch which points at what will be changing for a 1.0 release (which is looking unlikely before Christmas unless I get my finger out) Hopefully the changes are actually going to lead to an easier to use, easier to understand PerlUnit (for instance, the latest version in CVS has a working 'assert_equals' that does the right thing in most cases. Which is nice...) >> My second question is whether you're interested in feedback from >> whatever there is of a user community, i.e. (as far as I know) me. >> I have a couple of minor suggestions based on a couple of days of >> use that I'd be happy to toss up if anyone is interested. > > Oh yes, very interested. Please join the perlunit-devel mailing list > or just keep posting to this list (perlunit-users), and mail us your > comments and criticisms. Feedback is always welcome. Absolutely. The new docs even have a 'FEEDBACK' section essentially asking anyone who uses the framework to let us know and tell us of any niggles they have (or even things that they really like so we know what to leave alone.) -- Piers "It is a truth universally acknowledged that a language in possession of a rich syntax must be in need of a rewrite." -- Jane Austen? |
From: Christian L. <le...@ai...> - 2001-12-10 07:22:03
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Matthias Ferber <mf...@hi...> writes: > Hi folks, > > This seems to be a near-dead mailing list, but perhaps still the best way > to contact the minds behind PerlUnit. So, tally-ho. (There does seem to > be activity on SourceForge, so I'm hopeful that I'm not yelling into a > vacuum here.) No you are not - but the main activity is happening on perlunit-devel. > I'm leading a rather optimistic covert effort to popularize JUnit and > friends in my company's development environment. We use both Java and > Perl, which makes PerlUnit an attractive variant. I've been playing with > it over the last few days and I like it, but the available docs don't > supply a lot of context for gauging where it is. > > My main question is, can you give me any vague idea of how stable you feel > PerlUnit is at this point? I'd like very much to put it to active use at > work to some extent. It's clearly still well in the development stage, so > I understand that anything I do with it is At My Own Risk. But I'm hoping > that if this is a really bad idea at this point because everything is > going to change completely, someone will wave me off, at least. Well, let's put it that way: nearly all of the email that I have received and a lot of the posts on perlunit-devel seem to indicate that people do already use PerlUnit at work. I don't think that everything is going to change completely, but you might have a word about that with the folks on perlunit-devel. Still, the basic idea is to provide an implementation of the XUnit framework for Perl, and that is relatively stable. Do you have any specific things you are worried about? > My second question is whether you're interested in feedback from whatever > there is of a user community, i.e. (as far as I know) me. I have a couple > of minor suggestions based on a couple of days of use that I'd be happy to > toss up if anyone is interested. Oh yes, very interested. Please join the perlunit-devel mailing list or just keep posting to this list (perlunit-users), and mail us your comments and criticisms. Feedback is always welcome. Cheers, Christian Lemburg P.S.: Please note that I do not maintain Test::Unit anymore. The new maintainer is Piers Cawley together with the folks on the PerlUnit sourceforge group. > Regards -- and thanks for doing the work so far on this. > > -- Matthias Ferber > mf...@hi... > > > > _______________________________________________ > Perlunit-users mailing list > Per...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/perlunit-users > -- Christian Lemburg, <le...@ai...>, http://www.clemburg.com/ An American's a person who isn't afraid to criticize the President but is always polite to traffic cops. |
From: Matthias F. <mf...@hi...> - 2001-12-10 06:16:40
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Hi folks, This seems to be a near-dead mailing list, but perhaps still the best way to contact the minds behind PerlUnit. So, tally-ho. (There does seem to be activity on SourceForge, so I'm hopeful that I'm not yelling into a vacuum here.) I'm leading a rather optimistic covert effort to popularize JUnit and friends in my company's development environment. We use both Java and Perl, which makes PerlUnit an attractive variant. I've been playing with it over the last few days and I like it, but the available docs don't supply a lot of context for gauging where it is. My main question is, can you give me any vague idea of how stable you feel PerlUnit is at this point? I'd like very much to put it to active use at work to some extent. It's clearly still well in the development stage, so I understand that anything I do with it is At My Own Risk. But I'm hoping that if this is a really bad idea at this point because everything is going to change completely, someone will wave me off, at least. My second question is whether you're interested in feedback from whatever there is of a user community, i.e. (as far as I know) me. I have a couple of minor suggestions based on a couple of days of use that I'd be happy to toss up if anyone is interested. Regards -- and thanks for doing the work so far on this. -- Matthias Ferber mf...@hi... |
From: Adam S. <ad...@sp...> - 2001-11-16 13:52:41
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Rag Krish (ra...@ya...) wrote: > I was going through the PerlUnit tutorial and am > unable to find "TestRunner.pl." I assumed its part of > the PerlUnit, but does not seem so. Any pointers would > be helpful. It's certainly in CVS, along with TkTestRunner.pl in the Test-Unit subdirectory. Which release do you have? |
From: Rag K. <ra...@ya...> - 2001-11-15 19:25:39
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I was going through the PerlUnit tutorial and am unable to find "TestRunner.pl." I assumed its part of the PerlUnit, but does not seem so. Any pointers would be helpful. Thanks Raghu __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com |
From: Adam S. <ad...@sp...> - 2001-10-25 13:57:09
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I'm back! And this time I really am going to get some stuff done, because my manager has scheduled some time for me to get our test suite up to scratch. So, time to catch up. Where were we ... Regarding broken overloading in Error.pm, Matthew Astley (mc...@us...) wrote a long long time ago: > On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 05:55:57PM +0200, Christian Lemburg wrote: > > I think the other approach (diff files and requiring users to patch) > > could be a major hurdle in the install process. People just don't > > want to think about such issues. > > Absolutely. Being deliberately mean isn't my favourite either. > > Can we be helpful? Is it possible to shove an overload into Error.pm > (with big flashing warnings, of course) from inside our code, if we > detect an old version? I've not played with overload much. > > The pragmatic solution is to patch as Andrew suggests, then write a > perlunit selftest which a) checks the functionality and b) fails with > a suggestion to revert the patch if it detects a newer Error.pm I notice that Error.pm now has a new maintainer, and the latest CPAN version 0.15 fixes this problem. Therefore it's probably best just to add a self-test which checks for brokenness. |