From: Gossett, M. <mal...@ve...> - 2002-10-23 13:16:48
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Not a lot out there. Typical Open Source nonsense. Dada's site really isn't worth much. Don't know why it is still there. =20 Sourceforge.net is good, since they maintane it & the best place as well for downloading the .665 Beta as it has quite a lot, examples and such. CPAN.org do a search for Win32-GUI, but they only have .558. The docs are really good though, but not complete. :-( LoL -----Original Message----- From: Rob [mailto:ro...@di...]=20 Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 8:02 AM To: per...@li... Subject: [perl-win32-gui-users] Latest Documentation? Hi all. Just starting to experiment with this module, and liking what I find. I wonder if anybody can point me to the latest documentation? The best I can find is that on Dada's site, which is dated June 1999. Thanks for any help. Rob Dixon ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by: Influence the future=20 of Java(TM) technology. Join the Java Community=20 Process(SM) (JCP(SM)) program now.=20 http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?sunm0002en _______________________________________________ Perl-Win32-GUI-Users mailing list Per...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/perl-win32-gui-users |
From: Gossett, M. <mal...@ve...> - 2002-10-23 13:41:49
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Wow! What an ass! Maybe he'll update his website now. If this is your module butt-boy, where is the great documentation? -----Original Message----- From: Rob [mailto:ro...@di...]=20 Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 8:02 AM To: per...@li... Subject: [perl-win32-gui-users] Latest Documentation? Hi all. Just starting to experiment with this module, and liking what I find. I wonder if anybody can point me to the latest documentation? The best I can find is that on Dada's site, which is dated June 1999. Thanks for any help. Rob Dixon ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by: Influence the future=20 of Java(TM) technology. Join the Java Community=20 Process(SM) (JCP(SM)) program now.=20 http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?sunm0002en _______________________________________________ Perl-Win32-GUI-Users mailing list Per...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/perl-win32-gui-users |
From: Anthony G. <AG...@em...> - 2002-10-23 14:30:45
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-----Original Message----- From: "Gossett, Malachy" <mal...@ve...> To: <per...@li...> Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 08:41:47 -0500 Subject: RE: [perl-win32-gui-users] Latest Documentation? > Wow! What an ass! Maybe he'll update his website now. If this is Who are you calling a what? You're complaining about a *FREE* module that implements what *NO ONE* has taken on? I see that dada.perl.it was updated Feb 2002, which I'd say isn't bad for a one-man dev team, on top of the enhancements of the module and everyday life as well. I also see from the site, and I quote: "the module is actually in beta testing so be warned that syntax and behaviour can change with future builds; and of course, that there are many incomplete parts, sparse documentation (you can browse here the work in progress),"... The standard beta disclaimer applies here, if you feel you're too much above a little trial and error and question & answer sessions with other Win32::GUI users, maybe you shouldn't be here, but maybe using something with a nice little drag & drop interface that requires no actual thought, like a WYSIWYG html editor? > your > module butt-boy, where is the great documentation? > As I said and quoted above, 'great documentation' was never promised nor implied, but i'm sure if you wanted to volunteer your time, Aldo would greatly appreciate it, even after your asinine behavior. <sig> Anthony George <ag...@em...> Systems Engineer. Do your technical services need medical attention? We can help. EMSTS, LLC. 800-304-8269 231-720-1600 http://www.emsts.com 2516 Glade Muskegon,MI 49444</sig> |
From: Chris G. <gr...@xm...> - 2002-10-23 15:51:17
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> Wow! What an ass! Maybe he'll update his website now. If this is your > module butt-boy, where is the great documentation? As someone who came into this as never having done any Win32 work, this module has saved my bacon many times. First off, the site has all the needed information. It has a link to the module, and a link to this mailing list's archive. If you are unhappy that the examples didn't make enough sense for you, or you found reading the mailing list a problem, then what sort of programmer could you ever turn out to be. This module has made it quite nice to take my perl programming experiance in linux and turn out quality products for Win32. For me, I would just have to say Thanks Aldo, your work has made mine much better! Chris G. XMission Internet |
From: Anthony G. <AG...@em...> - 2002-10-23 14:53:27
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LOL. If that's the best you can come up with, in an intellectual sense, I feel bad for you. 'nuff said, say goodbye. <sig> Anthony George <ag...@em...> Systems Engineer. Do your technical services need medical attention? We can help. EMSTS, LLC. 800-304-8269 231-720-1600 http://www.emsts.com 2516 Glade Muskegon,MI 49444</sig> -----Original Message----- From: "Gossett, Malachy" <mal...@ve...> To: "Anthony George" <AG...@em...> Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 09:31:14 -0500 Subject: RE: [perl-win32-gui-users] Latest Documentation? > Why don't you SHUT THE FUCK UP! > > -----Original Message----- > From: Anthony George [mailto:AG...@em...] > Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 9:30 AM > To: Gossett, Malachy; per...@li... > Subject: RE: [perl-win32-gui-users] Latest Documentation? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Gossett, Malachy" <mal...@ve...> > To: <per...@li...> > Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 08:41:47 -0500 > Subject: RE: [perl-win32-gui-users] Latest Documentation? > > > Wow! What an ass! Maybe he'll update his website now. If this is > > Who are you calling a what? You're complaining about a *FREE* module > that implements what *NO ONE* has taken on? I see that dada.perl.it > was > > updated Feb 2002, which I'd say isn't bad for a one-man dev team, on > top > > of the enhancements of the module and everyday life as well. I also > see > > from the site, and I quote: "the module is actually in beta testing so > be > warned that syntax and behaviour can change with future builds; and of > course, that there are many incomplete parts, sparse documentation (you > can browse here the work in progress),"... The standard beta > disclaimer > applies here, if you feel you're too much above a little trial and > error > > and question & answer sessions with other Win32::GUI users, maybe you > shouldn't be here, but maybe using something with a nice little drag & > drop interface that requires no actual thought, like a WYSIWYG html > editor? > > > your > > module butt-boy, where is the great documentation? > > > > As I said and quoted above, 'great documentation' was never promised > nor > > implied, but i'm sure if you wanted to volunteer your time, Aldo would > greatly appreciate it, even after your asinine behavior. > > <sig> Anthony George <ag...@em...> Systems Engineer. > Do your technical services need medical attention? We can help. > EMSTS, > > LLC. 800-304-8269 231-720-1600 http://www.emsts.com 2516 Glade > Muskegon,MI 49444</sig> |
From: Anthony G. <AG...@em...> - 2002-10-23 15:12:21
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I'd like to apologize for the last message from me to the list, I'm not sure why, but somehow I quoted a private message back to the list. My fault, I apologize. <sig> Anthony George <ag...@em...> Systems Engineer. Do your technical services need medical attention? We can help. EMSTS, LLC. 800-304-8269 231-720-1600 http://www.emsts.com 2516 Glade Muskegon,MI 49444</sig> |
From: Peter E. <Pet...@at...> - 2002-10-23 16:21:27
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> For me, I would just have to say Thanks Aldo, your work has > made mine much > better! > Same here! If he is so unhappy with it, let him write his own GUI module. Thanks Aldo, Pete |
From: NAHUM M. <mar...@re...> - 2002-10-23 16:27:08
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RE: [perl-win32-gui-users] Latest Documentation?same for me ! Thanks Aldo !! MN ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Peter Eisengrein=20 To: per...@li...=20 Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 6:21 PM Subject: RE: [perl-win32-gui-users] Latest Documentation? > For me, I would just have to say Thanks Aldo, your work has=20 > made mine much=20 > better!=20 >=20 Same here! If he is so unhappy with it, let him write his own GUI = module.=20 Thanks Aldo,=20 Pete=20 |
From: Frazier, J. J. <Joe.Frazier@Peopleclick.com> - 2002-10-23 20:07:11
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More Ditto's. =20 Joe Frazier, Jr.=20 Technical Support Engineer=20 Peopleclick Service Support=20 Tel: +1-800-841-2365=20 E-Mail: mailto:su...@pe...=20 -----Original Message----- From: NAHUM Marc [mailto:mar...@re...] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 12:28 PM To: per...@li... Subject: Re: [perl-win32-gui-users] Latest Documentation? same for me ! Thanks Aldo !! MN =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Peter Eisengrein <mailto:Pet...@at...> =20 To: per...@li...=20 Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 6:21 PM Subject: RE: [perl-win32-gui-users] Latest Documentation? > For me, I would just have to say Thanks Aldo, your work has=20 > made mine much=20 > better!=20 >=20 Same here! If he is so unhappy with it, let him write his own GUI = module.=20 Thanks Aldo,=20 Pete=20 |
From: Rogers, J. <rog...@oc...> - 2002-10-24 02:51:10
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The only source, IS the source package ! eg find this file Win32-GUI-0.0.665.tar.gz Has docs AND samples, what more could you want ? Also, Thank you Mr Calpini for your module, I cant thankyou enough!. JohnR > -----Original Message----- > From: Rob [mailto:ro...@di...] > Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 7:52 AM > To: per...@li... > Subject: Re: [perl-win32-gui-users] Latest Documentation? >=20 >=20 > Well, as for me, I reckon Aldo's done a pretty good job.=20 > After all it's > the package that I chose to work with after checking what was=20 > available. >=20 > But my original question still stands - where's the best source for > documentation? If I have to read the code then that's fair enough, > but I just thought there may be something out there more up to date. > And please: no more flames. >=20 > Cheers all, >=20 > Rob Dixon >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------------------------------- > This sf.net email is sponsored by: Influence the future=20 > of Java(TM) technology. Join the Java Community=20 > Process(SM) (JCP(SM)) program now.=20 > http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?sunm0002en >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Perl-Win32-GUI-Users mailing list > Per...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/perl-win32-gui-users >=20 ##############################################################=20 Disclaimer=20 If this e-mail has been sent to you in error, please notify=20 Oc=E9-Australia Limited immediately and delete this e-mail from=20 your system.=20 Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual=20 sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of=20 Oc=E9-Australia Limited.=20 ############################################################## |
From: Rob <ro...@di...> - 2002-10-24 09:14:40
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Thanks John I'm using ActiveState Perl and got my copy of Win32::GUI from PPM. I assumed the CPAN version was the same. (Now somebody's going to tell me that there's documentation in the PPM version as well!) Rob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rogers, John" <rog...@oc...> To: "'Rob'" <ro...@di...>; <per...@li...> Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 3:45 AM Subject: RE: [perl-win32-gui-users] Latest Documentation? > The only source, IS the source package ! > eg find this file Win32-GUI-0.0.665.tar.gz > > Has docs AND samples, what more could you want ? > > Also, > Thank you Mr Calpini for your module, I cant thankyou enough!. > > > JohnR > |
From: Howard, S. (US - Tulsa) <sth...@de...> - 2002-10-24 12:33:52
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I have followed the civilized portion of this discussion these last = couple of days, and I do have to say that when I first began with this module, = I was very frustrated with only having the few examples as documentation. = I still have times when I cannot find the answer to what I need - one = such time being this last week when I was trying to translate one of my = report programs from C++ to Perl, but I cannot get the date format in the DateTimePicker (datetime) like I have it in the C++ version. I am not criticizing anyone's work, but I can see times when the documentation just doesn't cover what I need (Sometimes I can figure it = out, and sometimes I can't). So I would like to volunteer whatever I know if anyone else is receptive to the idea of augmenting the documentation. I = have been working with Win32::GUI for about one and a half years, and I have = a few examples (very few original, but a few times I have been able to = augment what I've found elsewhere). I would really like it to include examples = such as the very nice examples of the animated windows I saw in this group = not long ago (I doubt I would ever have figured out how to use the GUI = module in conjunction with the Win32::API module like that). Is anyone else interested in augmenting the documentation for this = module (without criticizing the documentation and examples that currently = exist) - If so, I'll contribute whatever I have, and take assignments from the organizer to the extent that I can, but I cannot organize or drive the effort. Without gushing with emotion one way or the other, does the rest of the group think such an augmentation would be helpful? Steve H. -----Original Message----- From: Rogers, John [mailto:rog...@oc...] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 9:46 PM To: 'Rob'; per...@li... Subject: RE: [perl-win32-gui-users] Latest Documentation? The only source, IS the source package ! eg find this file Win32-GUI-0.0.665.tar.gz Has docs AND samples, what more could you want ? Also, Thank you Mr Calpini for your module, I cant thankyou enough!. JohnR > -----Original Message----- > From: Rob [mailto:ro...@di...] > Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 7:52 AM > To: per...@li... > Subject: Re: [perl-win32-gui-users] Latest Documentation? >=20 >=20 > Well, as for me, I reckon Aldo's done a pretty good job.=20 > After all it's > the package that I chose to work with after checking what was=20 > available. >=20 > But my original question still stands - where's the best source for > documentation? If I have to read the code then that's fair enough, > but I just thought there may be something out there more up to date. > And please: no more flames. >=20 > Cheers all, >=20 > Rob Dixon >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------------------------------- > This sf.net email is sponsored by: Influence the future=20 > of Java(TM) technology. Join the Java Community=20 > Process(SM) (JCP(SM)) program now.=20 > http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?sunm0002en >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Perl-Win32-GUI-Users mailing list > Per...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/perl-win32-gui-users >=20 ##############################################################=20 Disclaimer=20 If this e-mail has been sent to you in error, please notify=20 Oc=E9-Australia Limited immediately and delete this e-mail from=20 your system.=20 Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual=20 sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of=20 Oc=E9-Australia Limited.=20 ############################################################## ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by: Influence the future=20 of Java(TM) technology. Join the Java Community=20 Process(SM) (JCP(SM)) program now.=20 http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?sunm0002en _______________________________________________ Perl-Win32-GUI-Users mailing list Per...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/perl-win32-gui-users - This message (including any attachments) contains confidential = information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and is protected by = law. - If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message = and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of = this message, or the taking of any action based on it, is strictly = prohibited. |
From: Luigino M. <lma...@ou...> - 2002-10-24 14:15:19
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Hi, I think that this is a relly good idea, maybe we can start from the modified Win32::GUI documentation bundled with The Gui Loft (http://www.bahnhof.se/~johanl/perl/Loft/), to insert the various (up-to-now) "undocumented" features that sometimes we found in this maili= ng list. The first thing we can do is to post messages as FAQ items (using "FAQ - short description of item" as subject) to begin collecting articles about Win32::GUI. I think that Aldo would found useful to collect these articles and includ= e them in the documentation. Bye. Luigino Masarati OutSys snc PS: I'm glad you have appreciated my little work about Animated/Layered Windows. Thanks. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Howard, Steven (US - Tulsa)" <sth...@de...> To: "'Rogers, John'" <rog...@oc...>; "'Rob'" <ro...@di...>; <per...@li...> Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 2:33 PM Subject: RE: [perl-win32-gui-users] Latest Documentation? > I have followed the civilized portion of this discussion these last cou= ple > of days, and I do have to say that when I first began with this module,= I > was very frustrated with only having the few examples as documentation.= I > still have times when I cannot find the answer to what I need - one suc= h > time being this last week when I was trying to translate one of my repo= rt > programs from C++ to Perl, but I cannot get the date format in the > DateTimePicker (datetime) like I have it in the C++ version. > > I am not criticizing anyone's work, but I can see times when the > documentation just doesn't cover what I need (Sometimes I can figure it out, > and sometimes I can't). So I would like to volunteer whatever I know if > anyone else is receptive to the idea of augmenting the documentation. I have > been working with Win32::GUI for about one and a half years, and I have= a > few examples (very few original, but a few times I have been able to augment > what I've found elsewhere). I would really like it to include examples such > as the very nice examples of the animated windows I saw in this group n= ot > long ago (I doubt I would ever have figured out how to use the GUI modu= le in > conjunction with the Win32::API module like that). > > Is anyone else interested in augmenting the documentation for this modu= le > (without criticizing the documentation and examples that currently exist) - > If so, I'll contribute whatever I have, and take assignments from the > organizer to the extent that I can, but I cannot organize or drive the > effort. > > Without gushing with emotion one way or the other, does the rest of the > group think such an augmentation would be helpful? > > Steve H. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rogers, John [mailto:rog...@oc...] > Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 9:46 PM > To: 'Rob'; per...@li... > Subject: RE: [perl-win32-gui-users] Latest Documentation? > > > The only source, IS the source package ! > eg find this file Win32-GUI-0.0.665.tar.gz > > Has docs AND samples, what more could you want ? > > Also, > Thank you Mr Calpini for your module, I cant thankyou enough!. > > > JohnR > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Rob [mailto:ro...@di...] > > Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 7:52 AM > > To: per...@li... > > Subject: Re: [perl-win32-gui-users] Latest Documentation? > > > > > > Well, as for me, I reckon Aldo's done a pretty good job. > > After all it's > > the package that I chose to work with after checking what was > > available. > > > > But my original question still stands - where's the best source for > > documentation? If I have to read the code then that's fair enough, > > but I just thought there may be something out there more up to date. > > And please: no more flames. > > > > Cheers all, > > > > Rob Dixon > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This sf.net email is sponsored by: Influence the future > > of Java(TM) technology. 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From: Aldo C. <da...@pe...> - 2002-10-23 13:34:20
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Gossett, Malachy wrote: > Not a lot out there. Typical Open Source nonsense. go program in Visual Basic, quick, it will make a lot of sense for you. > Dada's site really isn't worth much. Don't know why it is > still there. because is MY site and I like it, ok? > Sourceforge.net is good, since they maintane it THEY? what did you said again? THEY maintain??? I don't know did put all this b******t in your head, but SOURCEFORGE is not mantaining my module at all. heck, they're not maintaining anything except SourceForge itself! it is *ME* that is maintaining the project there, got it? next time, please think twice before spreading such nonsense. to the list: sorry if I sounded too rude, but this guy really did upset me. cheers, Aldo __END__ $_=q,just perl,,s, , another ,,s,$, hacker,,print; |