From: Johan L. <johanl@DarSerMan.com> - 2004-11-03 00:03:10
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I just released a new version of TGL that supports the 0.9 version, so Win32::GUI should be ready for it's 1.0 release, at least in that regard. /J -------- ------ ---- --- -- -- -- - - - - - Johan Lindström Sourcerer @ Boss Casinos johanl AT DarSerMan.com Latest bookmark: "TCP Connection Passing" http://tcpcp.sourceforge.net/ dmoz: /Computers/Programming/Languages/JavaScript/ 12 |
From: Johan L. <johanl@DarSerMan.com> - 2004-11-08 23:00:50
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At 10:42 2004-11-03, Glenn Linderman wrote: >>I just released a new version of TGL that supports the 0.9 version, so >>Win32::GUI should be ready for it's 1.0 release, at least in that regard. > >Thanks Johan, did you learn anything significant in the process of >producing it, other than what has already been mentioned on the list? I just finished investigating some very weird thing with timers which I had problems reproducing. It was kind of difficult, since it turned out to not having anything to do with timers in the end :) Instead it seemed like it was that new thing with Win32::GUI::Window objects actually being destroyed. So I was missing a variable to keep the object in scope. At least that's what I think happened. /J -------- ------ ---- --- -- -- -- - - - - - Johan Lindström Sourcerer @ Boss Casinos johanl AT DarSerMan.com Latest bookmark: "TCP Connection Passing" http://tcpcp.sourceforge.net/ dmoz: /Computers/Programming/Languages/JavaScript/ 12 |
From: Reini U. <ru...@x-...> - 2004-11-09 12:21:28
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Glenn Linderman schrieb: > Yo, Laurent-- can you spare a few minutes to finish up the release of > 1.0 ??? > > 0.99_1 has been out there for a little more than a month, Johan has TGL > working with it and released, and there've been no howls of protest from > the rest of the cognoscenti... probably time to release it on the > unwashed masses to see if we can generate some howls of protest there :) no howl of protest, rather a howl of enjoy. yes, please. > Actually, it seems likely that most of the howls of protest are likely > to be resolved by telling folks to keep top-level window objects in > global variables :) yes, add this please to the docs. we at cygwin will update our libwin32 package also soon, which will include 1.0 then. The Win32::API was also accepted today as is. -- Reini Urban http://xarch.tu-graz.ac.at/home/rurban/ |
From: Johan L. <johanl@DarSerMan.com> - 2004-11-09 12:45:41
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At 13:21 2004-11-09, Reini Urban wrote: >>Actually, it seems likely that most of the howls of protest are likely to >>be resolved by telling folks to keep top-level window objects in global >>variables :) > >yes, add this please to the docs. While we're on the subject, what's the state of the documentation today? Is it complete enough that it covers all or most of the functionality added up to 1.0? The docs I ship with The GUI Loft is an old version of forgotten origin. I probably should update it to cover Win32::GUI 1.0 . /J -------- ------ ---- --- -- -- -- - - - - - Johan Lindström Sourcerer @ Boss Casinos johanl AT DarSerMan.com Latest bookmark: "TCP Connection Passing" http://tcpcp.sourceforge.net/ dmoz: /Computers/Programming/Languages/JavaScript/ 12 |
From: Reini U. <ru...@x-...> - 2004-11-09 13:41:18
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Johan Lindstrom schrieb: > At 13:21 2004-11-09, Reini Urban wrote: > >>> Actually, it seems likely that most of the howls of protest are >>> likely to be resolved by telling folks to keep top-level window >>> objects in global variables :) >> >> >> yes, add this please to the docs. > > > While we're on the subject, what's the state of the documentation today? > Is it complete enough that it covers all or most of the functionality > added up to 1.0? > > The docs I ship with The GUI Loft is an old version of forgotten origin. > I probably should update it to cover Win32::GUI 1.0 . The docs are not good, but better than nothing. The situation with the samples which is much more important improved. -- Reini Urban http://xarch.tu-graz.ac.at/home/rurban/ |
From: Jez W. <je...@je...> - 2004-11-09 14:15:56
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>> The docs I ship with The GUI Loft is an old version of forgotten origin. >> I probably should update it to cover Win32::GUI 1.0 . > > The docs are not good, but better than nothing. > The situation with the samples which is much more important improved. The docs have been much improved - are you sure you have got the updated versions? A while ago Steve and Laurent went through and updated or added most (if not all) function, methods and events. The introduction, and tutorials could be improved though:) At the moment the samples are only included with the source - perhaps it's worth including them with the binary too? Once V1 is built and on sourceforge, it would be a good idea to do a bit of a 'marketing' blitz and hit the various newsgroups and websites (perlmonks, activestate etc) and inform people that a new version is available. How do we get V1 added to the activestate repositories? I'm also of the view that you can never have enough examples:) So perhaps it's an idea to call for more examples, perhaps with a set of goals in mind (a couple of examples per control, "advanced" concepts, full applications etc )? Cheers, jez. |
From: Johan L. <johanl@DarSerMan.com> - 2004-11-09 14:33:18
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At 15:15 2004-11-09, Jez White wrote: >>The docs are not good, but better than nothing. >>The situation with the samples which is much more important improved. > >The docs have been much improved - are you sure you have got the updated >versions? A while ago Steve and Laurent went through and updated or added >most (if not all) function, methods and events. > >The introduction, and tutorials could be improved though:) I'm in the process of writing one, but it's not that near completion at the moment though. >At the moment the samples are only included with the source - perhaps it's >worth including them with the binary too? Most certainly, since most people will be using the PPM. >Once V1 is built and on sourceforge, it would be a good idea to do a bit >of a 'marketing' blitz and hit the various newsgroups and websites >(perlmonks, activestate etc) and inform people that a new version is >available. How do we get V1 added to the activestate repositories? I think they autobuild the PPMs on a regular basis, and the modules that pass their test suite are included. So, if Win32::GUI builds on a "nmake test", it should replace 0.0.558. >I'm also of the view that you can never have enough examples:) So perhaps >it's an idea to call for more examples, perhaps with a set of goals in >mind (a couple of examples per control, "advanced" concepts, full >applications etc )? The purpose of my tutorial would be to demo a small but complete application with "best practices" of building and packaging a GUI app, while avoiding lots of globals, etc. The alpha is at: http://www.darserman.com/Perl/TglTutorial/ Including the original Word file if you want to add or change anything. /J -------- ------ ---- --- -- -- -- - - - - - Johan Lindström Sourcerer @ Boss Casinos johanl AT DarSerMan.com Latest bookmark: "TCP Connection Passing" http://tcpcp.sourceforge.net/ dmoz: /Computers/Programming/Languages/JavaScript/ 12 |
From: Reini U. <ru...@x-...> - 2004-11-09 17:56:10
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Jez White schrieb: >>> The docs I ship with The GUI Loft is an old version of forgotten >>> origin. I probably should update it to cover Win32::GUI 1.0 . >> >> The docs are not good, but better than nothing. >> The situation with the samples which is much more important improved. > > The docs have been much improved - are you sure you have got the updated > versions? A while ago Steve and Laurent went through and updated or > added most (if not all) function, methods and events. > > The introduction, and tutorials could be improved though:) Ok, I see. I got older ones. But nothing beats the samples. esp in perl. > At the moment the samples are only included with the source - perhaps > it's worth including them with the binary too? I would prefer that. ... > I'm also of the view that you can never have enough examples:) So > perhaps it's an idea to call for more examples, perhaps with a set of > goals in mind (a couple of examples per control, "advanced" concepts, > full applications etc )? -- Reini Urban http://xarch.tu-graz.ac.at/home/rurban/ |
From: Laurent R. <ro...@cl...> - 2004-11-09 19:04:03
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Hi, > Glenn Linderman schrieb: > > Yo, Laurent-- can you spare a few minutes to finish up the release of > > 1.0 ??? > > > > 0.99_1 has been out there for a little more than a month, Johan has TGL > > working with it and released, and there've been no howls of protest from > > the rest of the cognoscenti... probably time to release it on the > > unwashed masses to see if we can generate some howls of protest there :) > > no howl of protest, rather a howl of enjoy. yes, please. I can made a v1.0 release this week-end. Laurent. |
From: Johan L. <johanl@DarSerMan.com> - 2004-11-09 23:01:46
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At 20:02 2004-11-09, Laurent ROCHER wrote: >I can made a v1.0 release this week-end. Regarding the PPM thing, I asked about the procedure on Perlmonks. PodMaster to the rescue: http://www.perlmonks.org/index.pl?node_id=406427 /J -------- ------ ---- --- -- -- -- - - - - - Johan Lindström Sourcerer @ Boss Casinos johanl AT DarSerMan.com Latest bookmark: "TCP Connection Passing" http://tcpcp.sourceforge.net/ dmoz: /Computers/Programming/Languages/JavaScript/ 12 |