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Re: [Pearpc-users] Trouble Installing the Mac OS X operating System using the emulator PearPC on a PC
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From: <ica...@le...> - 2005-02-03 01:43:59
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----- Forwarded by Ismael Angelo Casimpan/Cebu/Lexmark on 02/03/2005 09:27 =
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John Purdom <joh...@bl...>
02/03/2005 04:46 AM
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Subject: Re: [Pearpc-users] Trouble Installing the Mac OS X =
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the emulator PearPC on a PC
ica...@le... wrote:
> *ANGELO*
Thanks for your email. I tried modifying a copy of the 'ppccfg.example'
configuration file as you suggested. I changed it as follows:
I left the BOOTMETHOD with its default value of "auto"
Changed the entries for master and slave as shown below
pci=5Fide0=5Fmaster=5Finstalled =3D 1
pci=5Fide0=5Fmaster=5Fimage =3D
"D:\Mac=5FOS=5FX=5FEmulation\PearPC\pearpc-3gib.img"
pci=5Fide0=5Fmaster=5Ftype =3D "hd"
pci=5Fide0=5Fslave=5Finstalled =3D 1
pci=5Fide0=5Fslave=5Fimage =3D "D:\Mac=5FOS=5FX=5FEmulation\PearPC\Panther1=
.iso"
pci=5Fide0=5Fslave=5Ftype =3D "hd"
The Mac OS system ISO files are on the 'D' Drive of my second
(non-bootable) harddrive in the PearPC folder as shown above. This being
the case the value for 'pci=5Fide0=5Fslave=5Ftype' I changed from 'cdrom' to
'hd' for harddrive, the same as is for 'pci=5Fide0=5Fmaster=5Ftype'.
On running PearPC 'ppc.exe' in a dos/commandline box I get the same
error as I was getting previously when running under PearPC Control
Panel using the 6 GByte image file relating to the file size not being a
multiple of 516096.
*AuthenticAMD
CMOV MMX SSE
[Display/SDL]: Making new window 1024 x 768
[IO/IDE] <Error> invalid format (file size isn't a multiple of 516096) ***
I have been told that the reason for the de-compressed image files
'pearpc-3gib.img', and 'pearpc-6gib.img', appearing not to be the
correct size is probably down to the fact the files have been expanded
on a PC with FAT32, rather than the NTFS file system. They have said the
files will not display the same file size as they would if they were on
a NTFS file system. Though my PC has Windows XP Professional as it main
operating system, I am still using FAT32.
I have the Linux 'SUSE' as a second operating system on the machine that
can dual boot with Windows XP. At one time I also had Windows 98 dual
booting as well and used the bootmanager program from PowerQuest called
'BootMagic'. Bootmagic was required to be on a FAT32 system and on the
main bootable partition, the 'C' Drive to work.
Since then I no-longer have Windows 98 on the machine and am using the
bootmanager 'GRUB' that came with Linux 'SUSE' 9.1. I want to convert
the harddrives to the NTFS system, but have been reluctant up until now
for fear of messing up the dual boot arrangement and the Linux
installation in the conversion. Once converted there is no going back.
If I convert one harddrive I will probably have to convert them all.
Though a FAT32 can be read from a NTFS formatted drive, I don't think a
NTFS drive can be accessed from a FAT32 drive.
If the answer to the installation of the Mac OS X operating system on a
PC under emulation using PearPC as the emulator is that the file system
needs to be NTFS, then I will have to convert it.
You mention about re-formatting the harddrive. At the moment the 'D'
Drive is as a single 80 GByte partition, with the PearPC folder to hold
the Mac Operating System being a file on that single partition. I don't
wish to have to format the whole drive, as there are a number of other
PC applications on it, which I would not wish to disturb. Would you
suggest I create a second 3 GByte non-bootable second partition on the
'D' drive purely to contain the folder 'PearPC' and where the Mac will
run from? I could format this partition as NTFS. Any FAT32 drive would
not require accessing it as it will purely be the Mac Operating system.
I assume Windows 'File Manager' will show the NTFS partition and allow
PearPC to be run from?
In regards being prompted for the 2nd & 3rd CD, and then replacing the
"pci=5Fide0=5Fslave=5Fimage" with your Panther2.iso & Panther3.iso
respectively, which you say will require you to manually quit your
PearPC to do this. I assume by this that having installed the first Mac
Installation ISO Image (of the three Mac installation disks), stopping
PearPC to edit the PearPC configuration file 'panther.cfg', on
restarting PearPC, the Installation of the Mac Operating System will
continue from where it left-off as if nothing had happened. Again the
installation will continue from where it was stopped after changing the
configure file to point to the third 'ISO' image. I have the Mac
Operating ISO image files on the harddisk not on a CD-ROM as you
suggested. I assume as long as the path in the configuration files is
pointing to the correct location of the files it doesn't matter if the
files are on the harddrive or a CD-ROM.
Regards
John Purdom
> John,
> I advice that you just copy and edit the "ppccfg.example" as the
> starting configuration file for your PearPC.
> You may save a copy as "panther.cfg". It is more comprehensible to
> start with compared to what "PearPC Control Panel" can offer.
> I find editing by hand the configuration more enlightening(though it
> might not apply to you) than using a configuration tool.
>
> Anyway, based on my experience, what I did were to:
> 1. Leave BOOTMETHOD in its default value
> prom=5Fbootmethod =3D "auto"
> 2. Point MASTER to the downloaded hard disk image
> 3. Edit the SLAVE IDE so as to point to your cd image of Panther.
> example:
> pci=5Fide0=5Fslave=5Finstalled =3D 1
> pci=5Fide0=5Fslave=5Fimage =3D "D:\Mac=5FOS=5FX=5FEmulation\PearPC\Panthe=
r1.iso"
> pci=5Fide0=5Fslave=5Ftype =3D "cdrom"
> Also, I used the 3 GB hdd image that I downloaded from pearpc's
> website. (3GB is enough since this is the required size in a real
> Macintosh environment)
>
> If you are then prompted for the 2nd & 3rd CD, just replace the
> "pci=5Fide0=5Fslave=5Fimage" with your Panther2.iso & Panther3.iso
> respectively.
> (NOTE that you need to manually quit your PearPC to do this.)
>
> When your installation is finished, you can now disable the SLAVE IDE
> by just putting a zero(0) in pci=5Fide0=5Fslave.
>
> And I bet you have already read the FAQ so I'm not gonna repeat it here.
> Hope this helps....
>
> P.S. If ever during the course of the installation you find that your
> hard-disk was not detected, try formating it using "Disk Utility" first.
> It is accessible while you are installing the OS from the "apple menu"
>
> Thanks! ;-)
> ISMAEL ANGELO A. CASIMPAN JR.
> Tech Support Staff(Macintosh)
> Lexmark R&D Corp., Philippines.
>
>
>
>
>
> *John Purdom <joh...@bl...>*
> Sent by: pea...@li...
>
> 02/02/2005 10:23 AM
>
>
> To:
> cc: joh...@bl...
> Subject: [Pearpc-users] Trouble Installing the Mac OS X operating
> System using the emulator PearPC on a PC
>
>
>
>
> All
>
> I have tried to include all the information pertaining to the problem
> shown below, but I am afraid in doing so it makes the email a big long.
> I would be most grateful if anyone could assist in solving this problem.
>
> I have been trying to install Mac OS X 10.3 (Panther) on a PC. I have
> set up a folder on my machine to contain the 'PearPC' files and the
> Panther OS files as follows:
>
>
> On a non-bootable Drive (D) I have the following path to the 'PearPC
> folder: D:\Mac=5FOS=5FX=5FEmulation\PearPC.
>
> In the folder "PearPC" I have installed 'PearPC' files, the three
> panther.iso files (created with Roxie CDCreator using Disk Copy to
> produce 'ISO' images of the three Mac OS X installation Cds.) and
> expanded copies of each of the two hard disk image (img) files
> (pearpc-6gib.img.bz2 and pearpc-3gib.img.bz2) downloaded from 'PearPC'
> website. I used WinRAR to de-compress the two bz2 compressed files
> giving the pearpc-6gib.img and pearpc-3gib.img image files.
>
> The 'PearPC' folder then contained the following files:
>
> Changelog text file,
>
> COPYING license file,
>
> nvram file,
>
> the (three ISO image files of the three MAC OS X installation disks)
> panther1.iso, panther2.iso, panther3.iso,
>
> the pearpc-3gib.img and pearpc-6gib.img files,
>
> the (PearPC executable file) pcc.exe,
>
> Video driver - video.x,
>
> ppccfg.example file,
>
> SDL.dll,
>
> and the PearPC Mac OS X installation configuration (created with 'PearPC
> Control Panel') named ppc.cfg. There are a couple of readme files as=20
well.
>
>
> The sizes of the de-compressed Image Files are as follows:
>
> pearpc-3gib.img =3D 3,145,464 KB
> pearpc-6gib.img =3D 4,194,304 KB
>
> The Mac OS X 'ISO' images files 'Panther1/2/3.iso are 663,292 KB,
> 658,148 KB and 662,828 KB respectively.
>
> When I created the 'PearPC installation configuration file (ppc.cfg) in
> 'PearPC Control Panel I enter the following information against each of
> the four screens presented by the 'Create New Configuration File=20
Wizard'.
>
> *Screen 1*
>
> Title screen =3D Pressed 'Continued'
>
>
> *Screen 2 *
>
> Location of PearPC =3D "D:\Mac=5FOS=5FX=5FEmulation\PearPC\ppc.exe"
> Location of image to use =3D=20
"D:\Mac=5FOS=5FX=5FEmulation\PearPC\pearpc-3gib.img"
> (for 3 GByte Image)
> Icon for to use for configuration file =3D I used the first option (face
> icon) for Mac OS X Operating System Emulation
> Memory Size =3D 255MB
>
> *Screen 3 *
>
> Video Mode =3D 1024 x 768 x 32
> Video Redraw Rate =3D 60
> Video Driver =3D D:\Mac=5FOS=5FX=5FEmulation\PearPC\video.x
> CPU PVR =3D G3
> Full screen Key Combo =3D Alt+Return
> Mouse Grab Combo =3D F12
> PearPC Networking =3D unselected
>
> *Screen 4*
>
> Wizard Completion screen
> Save Configuration - Name of Configuration File =3D Mac OS X
> Location =3D D:\Mac=5FOS=5FX=5FEmulation\PearPC\ppc.cfg
>
> Click 'Finish' to close 'Wizard'
>
> Prior to running the configuration file I 'checked' the checkbox
> 'Harddrive' entered the path to the image file as
> 'D:\Mac=5FOS=5FX=5FEmulation\PearPC\pearpc-3gib.img' both text boxes at t=
he
> foot of the 'PearPC Control Panel' display.
>
> Throughout the creating of the configuration file 'ppc.cfg' and when
> running it, there doesn't seem to be anywhere that sets up the paths to
> the three Mac OS X installion 'ISO' files previously created and put in
> the PearPC folder. How does either the configuration file 'ppc.cfg' or
> 'PearPC' pick up the first 'ISO' image file 'panther1.iso' to start the
> installation and then continue installation by loading next the iso file
> 'panther2.iso' and then the iso file 'panther3.iso' to complete the
> installation of the operating system?
>
> On clicking the newly created icon 'Mac OS X' in PearPC Control Panel I
> get the following output.
>
>
>
> AuthenticAMD
> CMOV MMX SSE
> [Display/SDL]: Making new window 1024 x 768
> [IO/IDE] <Error> D:\Mac=5FOS=5FX=5FEmulation\PearPC\pearpc-3gib.img: coul=
d not
> open file (No error)
>
>
> The installation then halts.
>
> On creating the PearPC configuration file 'ppc.cfg' with the same
> setting in the 'Create Configuration File' Wizard as stated above for
> the 3 GByte Image file, but now using the 'pearpc-6gib.img file' for the
> 6 GByte Image file i.e.
>
> *Screen 2*
>
> Location of image to use =3D D:\Mac=5FOS=5FX=5FEmulation\PearPC\pearpc-6g=
ib.img
>
>
> And again prior to running configuration file, I 'checked' the checkbox
> 'Harddrive' and entered the path to the image file as
>
> 'D:\Mac=5FOS=5FX=5FEmulation\PearPC\pearpc-6gib.img'.
>
> Again on clicking the newly created icon 'Mac OS X' in PearPC Control
> Panel I get the following output.
>
> AuthenticAMD
> CMOV MMX SSE
> [Display/SDL]: Making new window 1024 x 768
> [IO/IDE] <Error> invalid format (filesize isn't a multiple of 516096)
>
> The down loaded 6 GByte image file from the 'PearPC' web site suggests
> the expanded file size should be something in the order of 6 GBytes, yet
> the expanded file size is only 4,194,304 KB, somewhat less than 6
> GBytes. Is this expanded file size correct for the file
> 'pearpc-6gib.img' ? If it is not how can you change its size so that
> it's a multiple of 516096.
>
> I next tried creating the configuration file 'ppc.cfg' in PearPC Control
> Panel, but this time setting up a Virtual Hard Disk. On *Screen 2* I
> create a Virtual Hard Disk with the following settings:
>
> Location of Image to Use =3D=20
'D:\Mac=5FOS=5FX=5FEmulation\PearPC\pearpc-3gib.img'
> Hard Disk Size =3D 3 Gbytes
>
> The contents of the configuration file'ppc.cfg' set up for 3 GBytes
> (pearpc-3gib.img) image file is as follows:
>
> #Mac
> # Created with PearPC Control Panel
> #D:\Mac=5FOS=5FX=5FEmulation\PearPC\ppc.exe
> #FinderIcon
> #No SDL
> pci=5Fide0=5Fmaster=5Finstalled =3D 1
> pci=5Fide0=5Fmaster=5Fimage =3D "D:\Mac=5FOS=5FX=5FEmulation\PearPC\pearp=
c-3gib.img"
> pci=5Fide0=5Fmaster=5Ftype =3D "hd"
> memory=5Fsize =3D 0xFF00000
> ppc=5Fstart=5Fresolution =3D "1024x768x32"
> redraw=5Finterval=5Fmsec =3D 60
> prom=5Fdriver=5Fgraphic =3D "D:\Mac=5FOS=5FX=5FEmulation\PearPC\video.x"
> cpu=5Fpvr =3D 0x00088302
> key=5Ftoggle=5Fmouse=5Fgrab =3D "F12"
> key=5Ftoggle=5Ffull=5Fscreen =3D "Alt+Return"
> pci=5Fusb=5Finstalled =3D 1
> prom=5Fbootmethod =3D "select"
> prom=5Fenv=5Fbootargs =3D ""
> prom=5Fenv=5Fmachargs =3D ""
> nvram=5Ffile =3D "nvram"
> pci=5Fide0=5Fslave=5Finstalled =3D 1
> pci=5Fide0=5Fslave=5Fimage =3D "D:\Mac=5FOS=5FX=5FEmulation\PearPC\pearpc=
-3gib.img"
> pci=5Fide0=5Fslave=5Ftype =3D "hd"
>
> Apart from the errors listed above when running the configuration file
> 'ppc.cfg' within PearPC Control Panel, I have on occasions been getting
> the following messages:
>
> Which partition do you want to boot?
>
> 0 bootable partition(s) found:
>
> 0. show all (even unbootable)
>
> Your choice (Esc abort): 0
>
> On Returing with option as (0) it then displays
>
> Which partition do you want to boot?
>
> 1 partion(s) found:
>
> 0. show only bootable
> 1. partition 0 of 'disk0' (raw disk/raw)
>
> ************************************************************************
>
>
> The configuration file 'ppc.cfg' has the entry 'prom=5Fbootmethod =3D
> "select"'. I realize that this entry can also to set to 'force' and
> 'auto', in addition to the 'set' option for the boot method, but am I
> missing a point here. My understanding of how the PearPC emulator
> emulates the Mac OS X Panther operating system is that when the emulator
> is run it in affect boots and runs the Mac operating system from the
> PearPC Folder set up for it and therefore doesn't require a drive to be
> bootable. Why does the configuration file have this entry pertaining to
> a boot drive? There isn't one?
>
> I want to use the emulated Mac OS X system on my PC as a means of
> learning to use the Mac Operating System. Ideally the Harddisk space
> taken up by the emulation wants to be just big enough to run the Mac
> operating system. Under these circumstances would using the disk image
> file pearpc-3gib.img ( 3Gbytes) be sufficient to install the complete
> operating system or would more disk space be required to have a complete
> installation in which case I assume I would have to use the 6 Byte image
> file? Could I easily create my own image file to suit whatever image
> file size is required?
>
> Again as I mentioned at the beginning I have tried to include all the
> information pertaining to the problem shown above, but I am afraid in
> doing so it makes the email a big long. I would be most grateful if
> anyone could assist in solving this problem.
>
> Regards
>
> John Purdom
>
>
>
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