#303 detailed view lacks owner/permissions info

closed-fixed
5
2013-12-28
2013-10-31
saucy
No

PCMAN is a nice light FM that does just about all I need from such a tool.

The one major short-coming is the lack of configurabilty of the displayed info in detailed view.

It seems the columns are hard coded and only limited resizing is possible.

The big hole in what it offers is the lack of ownership and permission info. This is often essential when administering a system or understanding why some action is not possible to some files are not seen / directories are apparently empty.

Currently this is only available through considerable interaction with context menus. It needs to be directly visible (at least after configuration) in detailed view.

I see several short-coming which are all linked and could be fixed together.

1. Lack of owner col
2. lack of perms col
3. inability to reorder cols
4. description col is waste of real-estate, it's pretty obvious that a jpeg is a jpeg image file and a doc is a microsoft word file etc.etc.
5. min col widths are determined by the length of the column label ( lang dependent) . That is an unnecessary constraint once it has been read once. If space if tight (or a localised text label is long) this limits what can be seen. Eg I may want to squeeze 'size' down to enough to see xxxMB , many languages have longer labels. Description col is a waste. At least if I could reduce it to nearly nothing I would waste less space.
4 could be alleviated by 3 or 5 above.

IIRC Thunar allows simple selection of what file attributes are displayed and in what order. That is a considerable improvement in usefulness, for what I guess would be little coding.

Discussion

  • Lonely Stranger

    Lonely Stranger - 2013-10-31

    You should really try libfm 1.2.0-beta, all of that functionality is already implemented there. The setup is not remembered yet though so it will work only for single tab until it's closed, the remembering of columns and their widths will be implemented in pcmanfm-1.2.0, be patient and wait, please.

     
  • saucy

    saucy - 2013-10-31

    OK, good to see you're on top of it already.

    I tested on Fed 19 lxde spin, which I'm guessing is your latest stable.

    I also find labelling disks by their size to be seriously unhelpful. But I'd guess that something you inherit form a library you have to use. A hover hint giving the device name would be helpful here. I was a little surprised that right click didn't get me more than mount/umount but perhaps you intent to flesh that out later.

    Still, selection and ordering of columns seems to be the only major usability short-coming I see so far.

    Once that's in a full release I think I could be tempted to adopt PCMAN full time. Very nice.

     
  • Lonely Stranger

    Lonely Stranger - 2013-10-31

    Latest stable version is 1.1.2. What I meant is 1.2.0 beta which can be compiled from GIT sources. List of new features of LibFM is big enough, you can look into http://pcmanfm.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=pcmanfm/libfm;a=blob;f=NEWS for details. The pcmanfm version 1.2.0 is currently in development, the GIT source code supports all configuration options of new LibFM, later it will get many major features too.

     
  • saucy

    saucy - 2013-11-01

    * The 'no_usb_trash' option now has default to 1 (true).

    Good !

    Yes, I will try to build that once I've got Fedora 19 to install properly :roll:

     
  • Lonely Stranger

    Lonely Stranger - 2013-12-28

    This feature is implemented in current GIT sources for LibFM and PCManFM.
    Thank you very much.

     
  • Lonely Stranger

    Lonely Stranger - 2013-12-28
    • assigned_to: nobody --> lstranger
    • status: open --> closed-fixed
     

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