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[pcemu-users]FASD project: Online survey launched

[<ben...@id...>]

Dear Open Source developer

I am doing a research project on "Fun and Software Development" in which I kindly invite you to participate.
You will find the online survey under http://fasd.ethz.ch/qsf/. The questionnaire consists of 53 questions and you will need about 15 minutes to complete it.

With the FASD project (Fun and Software Development) we want to define the motivational significance of fun when software developers decide to engage in Open Source projects. What is special about our research project is that a similar survey is planned with software developers in commercial firms. This procedure allows the immediate comparison between the involved individuals and the conditions of production of these two development models. Thus we hope to obtain substantial new insights to the phenomenon of Open Source Development.


With many thanks for your participation,
Benno Luthiger


PS:
The results of the survey will be published under http://www.isu.unizh.ch/fuehrung/blprojects/FASD/.
We have set up the mailing list fa...@we... for this study. Please see http://fasd.ethz.ch/qsf/mailinglist_en.html for registration to this mailing list.

_______________________________________________________________________

Benno Luthiger
Swiss Federal Institute of Technology Zurich
8092 Zurich

Mail: benno.luthiger(at)id.ethz.ch
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Re: [pcemu-users]Licensing

[Michael H. <mic...@ju...>]

I'm not too worried.  For philosophical reasons I prefer the GPL, 
followed by the LGPL, but I'll go with what everyone else chooses.

The MIT seems to be compatible with the BSD license and a little bit 
weaker.  Either seems fine.

-- Michael


On Tuesday, March 4, 2003, at 05:33 AM, David Given wrote:

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> A few days ago, someone got in touch with me who wanted to use PCEmu 
> in a
> commercial product, goodness knows why. I redirected him to the list, 
> but I
> had a quick look at the PCEmu license, and found this:
>
> - ---snip---
> Permission is granted to use, copy, modify, and distribute this
> software and its documentation for any non-commercial purpose,
>                                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> provided that the above copyright notice appear in all copies and that
> both that copyright notice and this permission notice appear in the
> supporting documentation.
> - ---snip---
>
> Oh, dear. That would make PCEmu non-DSFG free.
>
> Given that the PCEmu licensing is a bit of a mess anyway, would it 
> make sense
> to try and get this sorted out? We'd need to contact all the various 
> people
> responsible. That would seem to be:
>
> David Hedley & the University of Bristol (main code): custom non-free 
> license
> Myself (X menuing, assorted fiddling): MIT
> Michael Hope (assorted other fiddling): unspecified --- could you make 
> a
> 					declaration?
> Eric Korpela (EMS): MIT
> Miscellanous (MFS, doesn't work): BSD-ish
>
> The MFS stuff is owned by Carnegie Mellon, but their license seems to 
> be
> compatible with the MIT license. The difficult bit would be the core 
> code,
> because it seems to be co-owned by the University of Bristol.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> - --
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> |  dg...@co...    | marmota monax meteriam possit materiari?" --- 
> Henry
> | (dg...@ta...) | Beard
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[pcemu-users]Licensing

[David G. <dg...@co...>]

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A few days ago, someone got in touch with me who wanted to use PCEmu in a=20
commercial product, goodness knows why. I redirected him to the list, but I=
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had a quick look at the PCEmu license, and found this:

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Permission is granted to use, copy, modify, and distribute this
software and its documentation for any non-commercial purpose,
                               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
provided that the above copyright notice appear in all copies and that
both that copyright notice and this permission notice appear in the
supporting documentation.
=2D ---snip---

Oh, dear. That would make PCEmu non-DSFG free.

Given that the PCEmu licensing is a bit of a mess anyway, would it make sen=
se=20
to try and get this sorted out? We'd need to contact all the various people=
=20
responsible. That would seem to be:

David Hedley & the University of Bristol (main code): custom non-free licen=
se
Myself (X menuing, assorted fiddling): MIT
Michael Hope (assorted other fiddling): unspecified --- could you make a
					declaration?
Eric Korpela (EMS): MIT
Miscellanous (MFS, doesn't work): BSD-ish

The MFS stuff is owned by Carnegie Mellon, but their license seems to be=20
compatible with the MIT license. The difficult bit would be the core code,=
=20
because it seems to be co-owned by the University of Bristol.

Any suggestions?

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Re: [pcemu-users]Test message

[Moritz B. <bar...@gm...>]

Hi!

> Sorry. Just checking to see if the list is still alive.

Well, it still works.  :-)

I haven't fiddled with pcemu for months now, since I've lost my Solaris
access. :-/ And on Linux, there are sort of nice alternatives...

> BTW, does anyone know the mailing list admin address and password?

You wish.  ;-)

Best greetings from Germany,
Moritz   :-)

Re: [pcemu-users]Test message

[Michael H. <mic...@ju...>]

For reference, I've sent the admin URL and password to David.

I had a little bit of fun with pcemu about six months ago - 
experimented with lazy flag evaluation and had a go at writing a 
transcoder to convert the native code into something easier for my Mac 
to interpret.  Came out quite elegant but it was too messy to check in 
and not really in the spirit of pcemu.

Can't tell if either sped things up as the dhrystone test I was using 
consisted of a couple of nasty, tiny loops.

-- Michael

On Saturday, March 1, 2003, at 12:03 AM, David Given wrote:

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> Sorry. Just checking to see if the list is still alive.
>
> BTW, does anyone know the mailing list admin address and password?
>
> - --
> +- David Given --McQ-+ "P.S. If you do not receive this, of course it
> |  dg...@co...    | must have been miscarried; therefore I beg you 
> to
> | (dg...@ta...) | write and let me know." --- Sir Boyle Roche, in 
> a
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[pcemu-users]Test message

[David G. <dg...@co...>]

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Sorry. Just checking to see if the list is still alive.

BTW, does anyone know the mailing list admin address and password?

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|  dg...@co...    | must have been miscarried; therefore I beg you to
| (dg...@ta...) | write and let me know." --- Sir Boyle Roche, in a
+- www.cowlark.com --+ letter
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