[Passwordsafe-devel] Re: Passwordsafe-devel digest, Vol 1 #10 - 4 msgs

[Steve L. <st...@is...>]

----- Original Message -----
From: <pas...@li...>
To: <pas...@li...>
Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2002 12:21 PM
Subject: Passwordsafe-devel digest, Vol 1 #10 - 4 msgs
>
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 00:39:06 -0400

> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 03:32:40 -0400
> From: Edward Elliott <pas...@ed...>
> To: pas...@li...
> Subject: Re: [Passwordsafe-devel] SecureAllocator
>
>
> Steve Loughran wrote:
>
>
> > 3. My main fear is of laptop hibernation, at the bios level or into a
> > hibernation file. The tactic here must be to go into 'erase everything'
mode
> > when a suspend or hibernate WM_POWER message comes in, but I also
recommend
> > doing the same thing when the app wakes up; a laptop's 'panic' shutdown
can
> > hibernate without sending a message out to anything
>
> Excellent point.  If you have ideas or can point me to more
> information to implement this feature, I would love to do so.
>

Quick summary of the onnow api:
http://www.iseran.com/Win32/Articles/onnow.html ; including the code
snippets needed to add shutdown awareness to your app.

If you want details on what notebooks get up to in the field, the most
recent study is still my '99 one:

The Secret Life of Notebooks


http://www.hpl.hp.com/techreports/2000/HPL-2000-21.html
presentation:
http://www.iseran.com/Steve/notebook_slides.pdf

Core findings: even desktop replacement systems get powered off regularly,
as they get moved around; often it is while a system off that hardware gets
juggled, the lan goes away &c. So when you come back up, you have to be
prepared for missing files and the like. Word 2000 adds power but gets it
wrong: it wont let you suspend while a network file is open, but all that
ends up doing is irritating users who end up pulling the lan card out and
running to their meeting with a powered up notebook. Whoever added that
feature didnt really understand how mobile users worked.