I have two groups and want to add a third. v3.26. It isdifficult to unselect
the existing groups. No matter what I do, the new group is added UNDER the
first group, even when neither of the two groups is selected. I want a first
level group, not a nested one. The only way I have figured out how to add the
third group at the top level is to copy one of the top level groups, delete
all the elements (but NOT the first as the group disappears) , and finally
rename the group and then edit the last element (by changing its name and
properties, which become the first elment of the group I wanted to add).Is
there another way in 3.26?
I need to investigate this, but here's a simple workaround:
To create a new group, at whatever level, just type in the new group name in
the Group field in the new entry's dialog box. For example, typing "TopLevel2"
in the group field will automatically create the group "TopLevel2", and put
the entry under it.
Likewise, "Toplevel3.sublevel2,subsublevel1" as a Group will create a new
toplevel group, along with two nested subgroups.
The rules for adding groups are:
e.g. you have groups A1 and B1, you can then add group C1.
e.g. you have groups A1 and B1, you select group B1 and can then add group B2
which becomes B1.B2.
Finally, as Rony has indicated, when you Add or Edit an entry, you can type in
whatever group structure you wish in the Group field and that structure will
e.g. you have entry 'a' in group 'A1'. You Edit it and replace the Group field
with 'Z1.Z2.Z3' and save it then it will be changed to appear in that nested
Note: as has been mentioned many times, Groups do not exist in their own right
and they are not saved in the database but are generated when the database is
read in using the values saved in the group field of the entries. It is an aid
for viewing in the Tree View. If you save a database with empty groups, they
will not be saved and so will disappear from view.
I forgot one other easy option.
Password Safe supports Drag & Drop. So if you create a group in the wrong
place e.g. you created 'a1.a2.z1' when you wanted group z1 to be in the root,
just select it with the left mouse button and then drag to the white space
below the last entry visible of the tree.
Note: if there is no white space visible below the last entry shown, you may
have to increase the height of the window and/or collapse other groups.
You can drag whole groups to anywhere in the tree structure and also just drag
a single entry.
I'm having issues as well. Create a new group, which gets created inside of an
existing group, move group to top level. Then create a new group and move than
into previously made group. Both then disappear, scary. The drag and drop &
group creation seems to need a lot of work.
Not scary when you remember that "groups" do not actually exist in their own
right. They are a particular field in an entry that helps when displaying the
entries in a Tree view (they are just another field in the List view - use the
View menu to switch between the different views).
The group tree view is created when entries are read in from the database. If
you save a database with empty groups they will be deleted because no entry
has a "group" field with that value in it.
IMHO, there really is no need to create groups by themselves. Once you have at
least one entry in a group (by creating it, editing an existing one or
dragging and dropping entries), it will always be displayed in the Tree view.
There is also no need to create a group in an existing group only to move it
to the root (top level). As I explained before above: To add a group in the
root (i.e. a top level group), ensure the Tree View has some white space
below any current groups and right-click there and select "Add Group" to add
the new group. e.g. you have groups A1 and B1, you can then add group C1.
I also have an issue with new groups.
Method "right click in white space-add new group" creates a new group, like I
Method "select create new group" from menu always creates a new group within
an existing group. Not what I want.
Anyway created, the new group is called "new group" and the field invites me
to change the name. If I do so, the group disappears.
The only way I can create a new groupis:
Use the rightclick method to create a new group. Do not rename it. But first I
have to add an entry into it. Then I can go back and change the name of this
In short I see two issues:
1) method create group from menu does not work as expected. My expectation is
that it would create a new group in the root.
2) When creating a new group I would expect that I can first give it a name.
And add entries later. And with later I don't mean the next day, but after I
finished creating and naming the group.
Oh, by the way, I am using version 3.28 (4783)
You might want to upgrade to 3.29, that fixed a couple of group-related
issues. For the rest, please open a Bug ticket via https://sourceforge.net/tr
Thanks for sharing !!!
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