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#4 Massive feature suggestions from Robin Dunn

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2007-09-06
2007-09-06
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If I ever run out of things for Pallavi, Robin, god of wxPython has written a lovely wishlist for text editors here:

http://groups.google.com/group/pyxides/browse_thread/thread/89478726097d2c59

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Hi all,

Kevin O. and I recently discussed in IM about yet another wxPython-based
code editor and the subject of my Emacs use came up. I've been an Emacs
user for more than two decades, and it has been a love/hate relationship
for most of that time (I hate that I love it and I love hating it) but I
would like to dump it for something else, iff the RIGHT something else
came along. Part of our discussion centered on the fact that it is not
just the emacs-style key-bindings that keep me using Emacs (most of the
key-bindings I use are customized anyway, or I load extensions to add
CUA key-bindings, etc.) but it is some more fundamental features that I
use many times every day that keep me there.

So here is your challenge and your mission impossible, should you choose
to accept it: Create a code editor that will pry emacs and its
25-year-old nearly dead technology out from under my fingers.

Here are the emacs features that I use very often that any editor would
need to have in order for me to switch. I've seen some editors with
some of these, but none with all unless it is an emacs clone. I'll
leave out the obvious things like platform independence, good syntax
highlighting, calltips or auto-completion. Also, these features are
just dealing with the code editor portion of the app, if it is more than
that (like a full IDE) then some of these things may or may not apply to
the non code editor parts:

* Python should be just one of the languages that this editor supports,
not the primary target. I spend as much time in C/C++ as I do Python,
and my editor of choice needs to help me with C/C++ coding just as much
as it does with Python. So some sort of support for calltips and
auto-completion would be marvelous, and also being able to act as a
front-end for gdb since I currently use emacs for that most of the time.

* Absolutely every feature or action must be able to be done with just
the keyboard. Moving the hand back and forth to the mouse wastes time,
breaks concentration and contributes to RSI. Multi-key sequences are
fine as long as they are grouped in a logical fashion. For example in
emacs all of the version control features are accessible via the
Ctrl-x,v sequence plus one more letter.

* Incremental search, both forward and reverse, and wrapping around
after you've reached the end or the beginning of the document. I like
to have the same key to start the search and also do a search-next after
you've typed all the characters you are searching for, and also to have
backspace go back one search position and/or remove one character from
the search text.

* Multiple top level windows, and able to show any buffer in any TLW,
including those that are already displayed in another TLW. Of course
there should be key-bindings available for opening a new TLW, cycling
forward and backward through the buffer list, and a way to select a
buffer from a popup list of buffer/file names.

* The Kill-Ring. For those of you that have never used an emacs-like
editor it works like this: There is a collection of the N previous
blocks of text that have been cut or copied (in emacs 'cut' == 'kill'
more or less) When I do a yank (paste) it uses the last thing put in
the kill-ring. If I then immediately use another key-binding then it
replaces that pasted text with the next item in the kill ring, and so on
until I eventually wrap around get back to the first one in the ring, or
I do some other command or move the cursor somewhere else.

* Registers. A text snippet can be copied into a register, which is
like the kill ring except you refer to each one by name, where the names
are 'a' through 'z'. You can also append to a register that already has
text in it, and you can paste the contents of a register into the
document at the current cursor location.

* Able to have selections be either a stream of characters or a
rectangle. A stream selection is like what you have in all text
editors, it starts from position a on line N and continues forward or
back to position b on line M and includes all the characters in between.
A rectangle selection is all the characters between position a and b
on lines N to M. In other words, it has width and height and it might
be something like positions 5 through 10 on lines 20 to 25. Cutting or
deleting a rectangle removes the text in the rectangle and shifts any
text to the right of the rectangle over. It does not remove any lines
although they may end up being empty. Pasting a rectangle inserts the
new text with the upper-left of the rectangle at the current cursor
position, shifts existing text to the right if needed, and fills with
spaces on the left if a line affected by the paste is not long enough.
New lines are not added unless the file needs to be extended to
accommodate the rectangle paste. Rectangles can also be put into registers.

* Good keystroke macro recording and the ability to save and load
keystroke macros, and the ability to assign a key-binding to a saved
recorded macro. Any time I need to make the same edits to a bunch of
lines or groups of lines I'll record doing it on the first one including
the keystrokes needed to reposition for the next line, and then stop
recording and then it's just one keystroke to replay the keystrokes for
every other line that needs it done. I record, use and throw away up to
a dozen or so macros per day.

* If you must have a toolbar make it optional and keep it simple.
Toolbars require the mouse and the goal is to keep the hand off the
mouse as much as possible.

* Similarly, avoid using popup dialogs whenever possible. This includes
things like the file dialog. I don't mind seeing the file dialog if I
select a menu item, because most likely my hand is already on the mouse,
but the rest of the time I just want to hit a key, type a path name
(with tab-completion to help find stuff, up/down keys to cycle through
past selections) and press enter. So I would prefer this editor to have
something like emacs' minibuffer, or the QuickFind panel in Firefox. In
other words, when there is something you would normally use a dialog for
just create a small panel that rolls up from the bottom of the frame,
put the keyboard focus there, perhaps do stuff in the main buffer as
they are typing if appropriate, and then when the user is done the panel
rolls out of sight again and keyboard focus is restored to their active
buffer. This can be done for file open/saves, search & replace,
specifying build or grep commands (see next item) choosing to execute
some editor function by name that may not have some key-binding yet (see
item after next) etc.

* Flexible build/grep commands. Emacs handles both of these in almost
the same way so I'll list them together here. I hit a key and am
presented with either the default, or the most recently used compile or
grep command. I can edit the command or use the up/down arrows to
select previous commands that I've used. I then hit enter and emacs
runs the command putting the output in an editor buffer. There is a key
I can hit to kill the compile if needed. It then parses the output and
there is a key I can use to find the file listed in the compile or grep
output, load it, and position the cursor on the reported line. (This
can even be done while the compile/grep is still running.)

* For access to editor commands/functionality that may not be bound to a
keystroke it's real nice to have the ability to hit a key, type the
command name, press enter and then it's done. This can also allow for
commands that might need to prompt for parameters, be interactive, etc.
All editor commands should be named and can be bound to keys by name
or executed by name in this way.

* Regex search. Emacs has support for regular expression search modes
for all of the search types, incremental search, search/replace,
although I don't use it that much.

* Multi-file search and replace. Be able to select files interactively,
or by wildcard, or both. Enter search string, or regex, and replace
text. The editor loads each file and does the search, allowing you to
choose for each one whether to do the replacement, or replace all.

* If it is a full IDE it would be nice to have a way to start just the
code editor portion for quick edits.

Things that would be nice to have, but that I could live without:

* Interactive diffs, merges and applying of patches.

* Able to be a front-end for gdb.

* Able to be a front-end for CVS, SVN, etc.

* Be able to run shell commands, or the shell itself in an editor buffer.

* have a built-in psychotherapist or be able to play towers of hanoi. ;-)

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