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From: Alain W. <ad...@ph...> - 2007-06-18 11:13:54
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Hi,
I'm new to opsview, it was recommended to me by a friend after he heard that I was playing with nagios.
Points as I come across them (take/leave them as you wish):
1) 1/2 way through downloading the RPMs & some bloke from actiny 'phones me up.
I don't want to be hassled - I put 'no spam' as my 'phone number -- I guess marketing directors can't take hints.
2) I did have nagios installed (Fedora core 6, x86_64), I had to uninstall it (+ a couple of others), renamed /etc/nagios first.
3) Installed : rpm -ivh *
Got a message complaining about /usr/local/nagios/bin/nrpe not being found when it tried to run service opsview-agent,
it was being a bit eager.
4) 'service opsview-agent' does not take a 'restart' argument - would be nice.
5) /usr/local/nagios/bin/nrpe - won't load -- it expects to find libssl.so.4 -- I have libssl.so.6, back to the source!
I am using fedora core 6.
6) Hmmm, which one first: try base.
7) Need to install libmcrypt.
8) It didn't build nsca ... didn't notice the error in the zillions of lines of make; clean; rebuild under script. - OK installs.
9) Need to install buildtools before can do the core stuff. BTW: buildtools.tar.gz is not gzipped.
10) There is a distinct lack of README or INSTALL files ... even if it just pointed to where it was on some web pages.
I follow the following since that is prob closest to a FC6 system:
http://docs.opsview.org/doku.php?id=opsview2.7:rhel-installation
There is much farting around on dependencies.
11) Web page recommends to disable iptables !!!!
12) The command:
/usr/local/nagios/bin/rc.opsview gen_config
complains that it cannot chown /usr/local/nagios/bin/nagconfgen.pl line 2425
Which is not surprising since I am running as the user 'nagios'.
A quick poke and I do this group ownerships by hand, .... several times ....
BUT these directory names have spaces in them -- what have you been smoking guys ? -- Microsoft weed by the looks of things !!!
13) I am supposed to run the following, but the script does not exist:
/etc/init.d/opsview-web start
(BTW: if you want to do it the RedHat way you should use chkconfig & service).
14) I was told that opsview was a better nagios ... it could be, but nagios has much better documentation.
15) Run 'make test' in opsview-core & it can't find Opsview.pm .... your @INC is wrong.
'make install' doesn't seem to fix this.
There is one in /usr/local/nagios/lib ... but there is evidentally a missing 'lib' or '-I'.
16) I notice that there are 2 different versions of Opsview.pm, one from Dec 2005 the other April 2007.
installer/lib & lib
17) Notice that Opsview.pm comes with opsview-core: run 'make install' again. No good, copy up by hand.
Now it can't find ClassDBIExtras.pm
Then I need Catalyst::Plugin::I18N Catalyst::Plugin::Snippets Catalyst::Plugin::Cache::FastMmap - then fails
because Catalyst::View::JSON is not 'use'd. This would not get past the CPAN beta testers!
18) But anyway it can't find/read opsview.conf, so copy this into the the directory it needs it to be in ...
19) Then it fails not being able to locate Opsview/{Host.pm|Servicegroup.pm| ...} I doubt that this has ever
been tested on a new machine.
20) Try a make install see if this works .... doesn't seem to do much.
21) I can't run it -- see (13), will someone please send me a copy.
Summary impression so far: 3/10
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Alain Williams
Linux Consultant - Mail systems, Web sites, Networking, Programmer, IT Lecturer.
+44 (0) 787 668 0256 http://www.phcomp.co.uk/
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From: James P. <jam...@al...> - 2007-06-18 12:49:28
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Hi Alain Comments inline... > Points as I come across them (take/leave them as you wish): Thanks for your feedback, we appreciate time you've put into this post. Think main issue is that RPMs were created specifically for RHEL4 and we've only tested on that distribution. We should make this clear on download site, apologies for that oversight. We don't currently support Fedora but we're planning to post SRPMs and we could provide ad-hoc help you create working FC6 RPMs if you're interested. > 1) 1/2 way through downloading the RPMs & some bloke from actiny 'phones me up. > I don't want to be hassled - I put 'no spam' as my 'phone number -- I guess marketing directors can't take hints. Debian packages and source code are available with no registration. Otherwise expect a call from our Sales Director :) > 14) I was told that opsview was a better nagios ... it could be, but nagios has much better documentation. Fair comment. We recognise our public documentation needs significant work. Possible solutions are that we find: 1) An existing customer willing to sponsor 2) Some volunteers willing to contribute 3) Ourselves with some time on our hands - seems unlikely right now :( The situation is gradually improving, we had nothing online at start of year. Regards, James http://www.altinity.com/ UK: +44 (0)870 787 9243 US: +1 212 837 7823 Fax: +44 (0)845 280 1725 |
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From: Alain W. <ad...@ph...> - 2007-06-18 16:01:48
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On Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 01:49:08PM +0100, James Peel wrote: > We don't currently support Fedora but we're planning to post SRPMs > and we could provide ad-hoc help you create working FC6 RPMs if > you're interested. It is my development/test machine ... I will probably upgrade it to FC7 soonish, but yes. A couple of simple READMEs would help a lot. There are 3 tar files to download ... how they relate to each other would be nice. How it differs with standard Nagios would be nice as well ... ie how well any Nagios plugins/... are likely to play with Opsview. > > 14) I was told that opsview was a better nagios ... it could be, > but nagios has much better documentation. > > Fair comment. We recognise our public documentation needs significant > work. Possible solutions are that we find: > > 1) An existing customer willing to sponsor > 2) Some volunteers willing to contribute > 3) Ourselves with some time on our hands - seems unlikely right now :( Release internal design documents ? I assume that you have these. > The situation is gradually improving, we had nothing online at start > of year. How much of a community is there ? I have been on this list for a few weeks and seen nothing. -- Alain Williams Linux Consultant - Mail systems, Web sites, Networking, Programmer, IT Lecturer. +44 (0) 787 668 0256 http://www.phcomp.co.uk/ Parliament Hill Computers Ltd. Registration Information: http://www.phcomp.co.uk/contact.php #include <std_disclaimer.h> |
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From: James P. <jam...@al...> - 2007-06-18 16:42:17
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> A couple of simple READMEs would help a lot. There are 3 tar files to > download ... how they relate to each other would be nice. How it > differs with standard Nagios would be nice as well ... ie how well > any Nagios plugins/... are likely to play with Opsview. > Ok, this is something we can address pretty easily. I'll try and post something this week. > How much of a community is there ? I have been on this list for a > few weeks and > seen nothing. List hasn't been going that long. We get most general enquiries and feedback via support / info email addresses should try and encourage people to use mailing lists more. Development community is currently Altinity employees plus a couple of third party organisations. We're preparing to open our code repository for external access, so it'll be easier for customers and individuals to make changes. User community is growing steadily plus we have about 40 paying customers. Our aim is to develop opsview.org as a community site whilst Altinity continues to provides professional services and support. It would be fair to say that Altinity's success is having a detrimental effect on the community site right now. We're busily recruiting so this should ease over the summer... Another factor is focus. We've spend the last 8 months (or so) making Opsview significantly easier to build and install, which includes packaging. This work is virtually complete (in spite of your experiences with Fedora) so we can hopefully turn our attention to other areas such as opsview.org and documentation wiki. --James http://www.altinity.com/ UK: +44 (0)870 787 9243 US: +1 212 837 7823 Fax: +44 (0)845 280 1725 |
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