From: Michael G. <ga...@ma...> - 2007-06-14 13:04:04
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Hi Gavin, I'm not sure that it can be for the old messages. It appears that there is data loss when transferring the forums around. I still have the original forums saved (including the ones from webhost) -- however we'll need to figure out a way to transfer the information in such a way that it preserves dates. Backup and restore in moodle -- the usual way to transfer module data from one course to another does not preserve dates -- this must be a bug but I don't see it mentioned in the moodle forums. The dates on the archived messages will not be accurate in any case since they were re-entered by Arnie. I still have the original data on webhost if someone can come up with a better transfer method. Take care, Mike On Jun 14, 2007, at 8:35 AM, P. Gavin LaRose wrote: > Hi guys, > > When I hit the MAA webwork discussion site, I'm seeing every > message listed at Wed 31 Dec 1969 at 7pm. Can this be fixed? > > Thanks, > Gavin > > -- > P Gavin LaRose, PhD | gl...@um... | 734.764.6454 | ...you > have > Program Manager, Instructional Technology | to respect someone > who can > Mathematics Dept, University of Michigan | spell Tuesday, even if > they > http://www.math.lsa.umich.edu/~glarose/ | can't spell it right. - > Milne > |
From: Arnold P. <ap...@ma...> - 2007-06-14 13:54:20
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On 6/14/07, Michael Gage <ga...@ma...> wrote: Mike writes "The newer posts from the last 6 months don't have any dates." Actually if you look at the message itself, the posting date does appear near the top, e.g. user Michael Gage - WeBWorK in the Middle East blueArrow 1/3/2007; 8:33:31 PM (reads: 126, responses: 0) Arnie > I agree. There is some hope that we can recover this eventually > since I believe it is a one time > data loss caused by the move. The posts in the archive forum still > have the date preserved on the internal > data. The newer posts from the last 6 months don't have any dates. > > As I said I'm still saving all of the original forums -- it may be > that we'll need direct access to the mysql database > on the maa machine in order to transfer the posts over with data. > Except for the archived posts there are only a few hundred entries so > it could be done somewhat manually. > > Anyone have any suggestions? > > Take care, > > Mike > > On Jun 14, 2007, at 9:07 AM, P. Gavin LaRose wrote: > > > Hi Mike, > > > > I was mainly interested that the site seems to have lost all date > > information from posts since the site moved to the MAA. If they did a > > restore from a backup that wiped out all of the old information that's > > understandable, but it's also really annoying---if I can't tell if > > a forum > > post was from 2000 or 2007 it makes it hard to tell if it's useful > > or not. > > > > Gavin > > > > -- > > P Gavin LaRose, PhD | gl...@um... | 734.764.6454 | ...you > > have > > Program Manager, Instructional Technology | to respect someone > > who can > > Mathematics Dept, University of Michigan | spell Tuesday, even if > > they > > http://www.math.lsa.umich.edu/~glarose/ | can't spell it right. - > > Milne > > > > On 2007-06-14 [09:03] Michael Gage wrote: > > > >> Hi Gavin, > >> > >> I'm not sure that it can be for the old messages. It appears that > >> there is > >> data loss when transferring the forums around. > >> > >> I still have the original forums saved (including the ones from > >> webhost) -- > >> however we'll need to figure out a way to transfer the information > >> in such a > >> way that it preserves dates. Backup and restore in moodle -- the > >> usual way > >> to transfer module data from one course to another does not > >> preserve dates -- > >> this must be a bug but I don't see it mentioned in the moodle forums. > >> > >> The dates on the archived messages will not be accurate in any > >> case since > >> they were re-entered by Arnie. I still have the original data on > >> webhost if > >> someone can come up with a better transfer method. > >> > >> Take care, > >> Mike > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > --- > > This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express > > Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take > > control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. > > http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ > > _______________________________________________ > > OpenWeBWorK-Devel mailing list > > Ope...@li... > > https://lists.sf.net/lists/listinfo/openwebwork-devel > > > > -- Prof. Arnold K. Pizer Dept. of Mathematics University of Rochester Rochester, NY 14627 (585) 275-7767 |
From: P. G. L. <gl...@um...> - 2007-06-14 14:01:34
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The date is in the message only for those messages copied from the old site, not for any message that was posted to the MAA site since the forums moved there. In any event there are no usable dates on the thread listing pages of the forums, e.g., <http://webwork.maa.org/moodle/mod/forum/view.php?id=22>. Another example, a newer post with no date: <http://webwork.maa.org/moodle/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=1497> Gavin -- P Gavin LaRose, PhD | gl...@um... | 734.764.6454 | ...you have Program Manager, Instructional Technology | to respect someone who can Mathematics Dept, University of Michigan | spell Tuesday, even if they http://www.math.lsa.umich.edu/~glarose/ | can't spell it right. -Milne On 2007-06-14 [09:54] Arnold Pizer wrote: > On 6/14/07, Michael Gage <ga...@ma...> wrote: > > Mike writes "The newer posts from the last 6 months don't have any > dates." Actually if you look at the message itself, the posting date > does appear near the top, e.g. > > user Michael Gage - WeBWorK in the Middle East blueArrow > 1/3/2007; 8:33:31 PM (reads: 126, responses: 0) > > Arnie > >> I agree. There is some hope that we can recover this eventually since >> I believe it is a one time data loss caused by the move. The posts in >> the archive forum still have the date preserved on the internal data. >> The newer posts from the last 6 months don't have any dates. >> >> As I said I'm still saving all of the original forums -- it may be that >> we'll need direct access to the mysql database on the maa machine in >> order to transfer the posts over with data. Except for the archived >> posts there are only a few hundred entries so it could be done somewhat >> manually. >> >> Anyone have any suggestions? >> >> Take care, >> >> Mike |
From: Arnold P. <ap...@ma...> - 2007-06-14 14:08:41
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Yep, sorry about that. I looked at a bad example forgetting that I had put all messages through 2006 in the archive but had put 2007 messages in the individual forums. As you say in any event, the most useful information is on the thread listing page. Arnie On 6/14/07, P. Gavin LaRose <gl...@um...> wrote: > > The date is in the message only for those messages copied from the old > site, not for any message that was posted to the MAA site since the forums > moved there. In any event there are no usable dates on the thread listing > pages of the forums, e.g., > <http://webwork.maa.org/moodle/mod/forum/view.php?id=22>. > Another example, a newer post with no date: > <http://webwork.maa.org/moodle/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=1497> > > Gavin > > -- > P Gavin LaRose, PhD | gl...@um... | 734.764.6454 | ...you have > Program Manager, Instructional Technology | to respect someone who can > Mathematics Dept, University of Michigan | spell Tuesday, even if they > http://www.math.lsa.umich.edu/~glarose/ | can't spell it right. -Milne > > On 2007-06-14 [09:54] Arnold Pizer wrote: > > > On 6/14/07, Michael Gage <ga...@ma...> wrote: > > > > Mike writes "The newer posts from the last 6 months don't have any > > dates." Actually if you look at the message itself, the posting date > > does appear near the top, e.g. > > > > user Michael Gage - WeBWorK in the Middle East blueArrow > > 1/3/2007; 8:33:31 PM (reads: 126, responses: 0) > > > > Arnie > > > >> I agree. There is some hope that we can recover this eventually since > >> I believe it is a one time data loss caused by the move. The posts in > >> the archive forum still have the date preserved on the internal data. > >> The newer posts from the last 6 months don't have any dates. > >> > >> As I said I'm still saving all of the original forums -- it may be that > >> we'll need direct access to the mysql database on the maa machine in > >> order to transfer the posts over with data. Except for the archived > >> posts there are only a few hundred entries so it could be done somewhat > >> manually. > >> > >> Anyone have any suggestions? > >> > >> Take care, > >> > >> Mike > -- Prof. Arnold K. Pizer Dept. of Mathematics University of Rochester Rochester, NY 14627 (585) 275-7767 |
From: Michael G. <ga...@ma...> - 2007-06-19 16:36:45
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Hi all, I've managed to fix the forum posts -- Moodle seems to have a minor bug when you transfer a forum off the front page (course id=1) but I figured out a workaround and have the main forums installed in the Using WeBWorK course with correct dates. The archived dates are still represent the time when Arnie transferred the posts from webhost to the new server, but there are internal dates that are accurate and the order of the posts is once again correct. Take care, Mike On Jun 14, 2007, at 10:01 AM, P. Gavin LaRose wrote: > > The date is in the message only for those messages copied from the old > site, not for any message that was posted to the MAA site since the > forums > moved there. In any event there are no usable dates on the thread > listing > pages of the forums, e.g., > <http://webwork.maa.org/moodle/mod/forum/view.php?id=22>. > Another example, a newer post with no date: > <http://webwork.maa.org/moodle/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=1497> > > Gavin > > -- > P Gavin LaRose, PhD | gl...@um... | 734.764.6454 | ...you > have > Program Manager, Instructional Technology | to respect someone > who can > Mathematics Dept, University of Michigan | spell Tuesday, even if > they > http://www.math.lsa.umich.edu/~glarose/ | can't spell it right. - > Milne > > On 2007-06-14 [09:54] Arnold Pizer wrote: > >> On 6/14/07, Michael Gage <ga...@ma...> wrote: >> >> Mike writes "The newer posts from the last 6 months don't have any >> dates." Actually if you look at the message itself, the posting date >> does appear near the top, e.g. >> >> user Michael Gage - WeBWorK in the Middle East blueArrow >> 1/3/2007; 8:33:31 PM (reads: 126, responses: 0) >> >> Arnie >> >>> I agree. There is some hope that we can recover this eventually >>> since >>> I believe it is a one time data loss caused by the move. The >>> posts in >>> the archive forum still have the date preserved on the internal >>> data. >>> The newer posts from the last 6 months don't have any dates. >>> >>> As I said I'm still saving all of the original forums -- it may >>> be that >>> we'll need direct access to the mysql database on the maa machine in >>> order to transfer the posts over with data. Except for the archived >>> posts there are only a few hundred entries so it could be done >>> somewhat >>> manually. >>> >>> Anyone have any suggestions? >>> >>> Take care, >>> >>> Mike > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express > Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take > control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. > http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ > _______________________________________________ > OpenWeBWorK-Devel mailing list > Ope...@li... > https://lists.sf.net/lists/listinfo/openwebwork-devel > |
From: Michael G. <ga...@ma...> - 2007-06-14 14:06:19
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There were two moves. I'll post a note -- only posts between sometime in December 2006 and June 2007 are affected by the second move. Take care, Mike On Jun 14, 2007, at 9:24 AM, P. Gavin LaRose wrote: > Hi Mike, > > Are there two moves? That is, I know the entire thing moved > several months ago from Rochester to the MAA. Did they move it > again, thus causing the loss of the data information? I think I'm > just confused here, but if I'm right about this (finally) it might > be worth putting a note on the forum front page to say that the > dates on forum posts are all messed up, and why. Otherwise my > inclination is to look at the forum and think that it's at best out > of date and at worst nonfunctional. > > Thanks, > Gavin > > -- > P Gavin LaRose, PhD | gl...@um... | 734.764.6454 | ...you > have > Program Manager, Instructional Technology | to respect someone > who can > Mathematics Dept, University of Michigan | spell Tuesday, even if > they > http://www.math.lsa.umich.edu/~glarose/ | can't spell it right. - > Milne > > On 2007-06-14 [09:19] Michael Gage wrote: > >> I agree. There is some hope that we can recover this eventually >> since I believe it is a one time >> data loss caused by the move. The posts in the archive forum >> still have the date preserved on the internal >> data. The newer posts from the last 6 months don't have any dates. >> >> As I said I'm still saving all of the original forums -- it may be >> that we'll need direct access to the mysql database >> on the maa machine in order to transfer the posts over with data. >> Except for the archived posts there are only a few hundred entries >> so it could be done somewhat manually. >> >> Anyone have any suggestions? >> >> Take care, >> >> Mike >> >> On Jun 14, 2007, at 9:07 AM, P. Gavin LaRose wrote: >> >>> Hi Mike, >>> I was mainly interested that the site seems to have lost all date >>> information from posts since the site moved to the MAA. If they >>> did a >>> restore from a backup that wiped out all of the old information >>> that's >>> understandable, but it's also really annoying---if I can't tell >>> if a forum >>> post was from 2000 or 2007 it makes it hard to tell if it's >>> useful or not. >>> Gavin >>> -- >>> P Gavin LaRose, PhD | gl...@um... | 734.764.6454 >>> | ...you have >>> Program Manager, Instructional Technology | to respect someone >>> who can >>> Mathematics Dept, University of Michigan | spell Tuesday, even >>> if they >>> http://www.math.lsa.umich.edu/~glarose/ | can't spell it right. >>> -Milne >>> On 2007-06-14 [09:03] Michael Gage wrote: >>>> Hi Gavin, >>>> I'm not sure that it can be for the old messages. It appears >>>> that there is >>>> data loss when transferring the forums around. >>>> I still have the original forums saved (including the ones from >>>> webhost) -- >>>> however we'll need to figure out a way to transfer the >>>> information in such a >>>> way that it preserves dates. Backup and restore in moodle -- >>>> the usual way >>>> to transfer module data from one course to another does not >>>> preserve dates -- >>>> this must be a bug but I don't see it mentioned in the moodle >>>> forums. >>>> The dates on the archived messages will not be accurate in any >>>> case since >>>> they were re-entered by Arnie. I still have the original data >>>> on webhost if >>>> someone can come up with a better transfer method. >>>> Take care, >>>> Mike >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> ----- >>> This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express >>> Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take >>> control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. >>> http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> OpenWeBWorK-Devel mailing list >>> Ope...@li... >>> https://lists.sf.net/lists/listinfo/openwebwork-devel >> >> >> > |
From: P. G. L. <gl...@um...> - 2007-06-14 13:07:37
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Hi Mike, I was mainly interested that the site seems to have lost all date information from posts since the site moved to the MAA. If they did a restore from a backup that wiped out all of the old information that's understandable, but it's also really annoying---if I can't tell if a forum post was from 2000 or 2007 it makes it hard to tell if it's useful or not. Gavin -- P Gavin LaRose, PhD | gl...@um... | 734.764.6454 | ...you have Program Manager, Instructional Technology | to respect someone who can Mathematics Dept, University of Michigan | spell Tuesday, even if they http://www.math.lsa.umich.edu/~glarose/ | can't spell it right. -Milne On 2007-06-14 [09:03] Michael Gage wrote: > Hi Gavin, > > I'm not sure that it can be for the old messages. It appears that there is > data loss when transferring the forums around. > > I still have the original forums saved (including the ones from webhost) -- > however we'll need to figure out a way to transfer the information in such a > way that it preserves dates. Backup and restore in moodle -- the usual way > to transfer module data from one course to another does not preserve dates -- > this must be a bug but I don't see it mentioned in the moodle forums. > > The dates on the archived messages will not be accurate in any case since > they were re-entered by Arnie. I still have the original data on webhost if > someone can come up with a better transfer method. > > Take care, > Mike |
From: Michael G. <ga...@ma...> - 2007-06-14 13:20:13
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I agree. There is some hope that we can recover this eventually since I believe it is a one time data loss caused by the move. The posts in the archive forum still have the date preserved on the internal data. The newer posts from the last 6 months don't have any dates. As I said I'm still saving all of the original forums -- it may be that we'll need direct access to the mysql database on the maa machine in order to transfer the posts over with data. Except for the archived posts there are only a few hundred entries so it could be done somewhat manually. Anyone have any suggestions? Take care, Mike On Jun 14, 2007, at 9:07 AM, P. Gavin LaRose wrote: > Hi Mike, > > I was mainly interested that the site seems to have lost all date > information from posts since the site moved to the MAA. If they did a > restore from a backup that wiped out all of the old information that's > understandable, but it's also really annoying---if I can't tell if > a forum > post was from 2000 or 2007 it makes it hard to tell if it's useful > or not. > > Gavin > > -- > P Gavin LaRose, PhD | gl...@um... | 734.764.6454 | ...you > have > Program Manager, Instructional Technology | to respect someone > who can > Mathematics Dept, University of Michigan | spell Tuesday, even if > they > http://www.math.lsa.umich.edu/~glarose/ | can't spell it right. - > Milne > > On 2007-06-14 [09:03] Michael Gage wrote: > >> Hi Gavin, >> >> I'm not sure that it can be for the old messages. It appears that >> there is >> data loss when transferring the forums around. >> >> I still have the original forums saved (including the ones from >> webhost) -- >> however we'll need to figure out a way to transfer the information >> in such a >> way that it preserves dates. Backup and restore in moodle -- the >> usual way >> to transfer module data from one course to another does not >> preserve dates -- >> this must be a bug but I don't see it mentioned in the moodle forums. >> >> The dates on the archived messages will not be accurate in any >> case since >> they were re-entered by Arnie. I still have the original data on >> webhost if >> someone can come up with a better transfer method. >> >> Take care, >> Mike > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express > Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take > control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. > http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ > _______________________________________________ > OpenWeBWorK-Devel mailing list > Ope...@li... > https://lists.sf.net/lists/listinfo/openwebwork-devel > |
From: Sam H. <sh...@ma...> - 2007-06-15 04:08:11
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on 06/14/2007 09:19 AM Michael Gage said the following: > I agree. There is some hope that we can recover this eventually > since I believe it is a one time > data loss caused by the move. The posts in the archive forum still > have the date preserved on the internal > data. The newer posts from the last 6 months don't have any dates. > > As I said I'm still saving all of the original forums -- it may be > that we'll need direct access to the mysql database > on the maa machine in order to transfer the posts over with data. > Except for the archived posts there are only a few hundred entries so > it could be done somewhat manually. > > Anyone have any suggestions? I'm wondering if it's possible to post each Frontier message as a separate message in Moodle, rather than having an entire discussion end up as a single Moodle message. The one snag I can think of is that each message needs to have a user associated with it, and we probably don't want to deal with the headache of importing all the old users from the Frontier site. As far as the posting dates go, dates seem to be part of the exported XML file format -- the <POST> structure has <CREATED> and <MODIFIED> field, and the <DISCUSSION> structure has a <TIMEMODIFIED> field (which should probably match the <MODIFIED> parameter of the most recently modified <POST> within it). So I guess I'm unclear on how the post times got lost in the first place. -sam |
From: Michael G. <ga...@ma...> - 2007-06-15 12:06:03
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On Jun 15, 2007, at 12:07 AM, Sam Hathaway wrote: > on 06/14/2007 09:19 AM Michael Gage said the following: > >> I agree. There is some hope that we can recover this eventually >> since I believe it is a one time >> data loss caused by the move. The posts in the archive forum still >> have the date preserved on the internal >> data. The newer posts from the last 6 months don't have any dates. >> >> As I said I'm still saving all of the original forums -- it may be >> that we'll need direct access to the mysql database >> on the maa machine in order to transfer the posts over with data. >> Except for the archived posts there are only a few hundred entries so >> it could be done somewhat manually. >> >> Anyone have any suggestions? > Hi Sam, > I'm wondering if it's possible to post each Frontier message as a > separate message in Moodle, rather than having an entire discussion > end > up as a single Moodle message. > We could do a little custom programming that would output the frontier database into xml. (Frontier has automatic xml creation from it's internal structures so it wouldn't be too hard.) Then you'd have to transform it into some kind of xml that moodle could read. > The one snag I can think of is that each message needs to have a user > associated with it, and we probably don't want to deal with the > headache > of importing all the old users from the Frontier site. > > As far as the posting dates go, dates seem to be part of the exported > XML file format -- the <POST> structure has <CREATED> and <MODIFIED> > field, and the <DISCUSSION> structure has a <TIMEMODIFIED> field > (which > should probably match the <MODIFIED> parameter of the most recently > modified <POST> within it). > > So I guess I'm unclear on how the post times got lost in the first > place. I think it's a bug in the archiving method of moodle -- or perhaps the unarchiving method. If you look at the xml from the backup files you find timestart=0 and timeend=0 . If I look in the database the time stamp is definitely 0. It's kind of clear what data is missing. The question is how to fix it without direct access to the MAA database. While we're on the subject I'm having trouble handling "student enrollments" on the MAA moodle as well. I created the AIM course for this upcoming workshop and it seems to have automatically enrolled all the current members of the site -- and when I try to unenroll them nothing happens. ???? I haven't been able to track this one down. I'll try to duplicate it on my local copy of moodle. Take care, Mike > -sam > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express > Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take > control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. > http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ > _______________________________________________ > OpenWeBWorK-Devel mailing list > Ope...@li... > https://lists.sf.net/lists/listinfo/openwebwork-devel > |
From: Sam H. <sh...@ma...> - 2007-06-15 16:06:32
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on 06/15/2007 08:05 AM Michael Gage said the following: > On Jun 15, 2007, at 12:07 AM, Sam Hathaway wrote: > >> on 06/14/2007 09:19 AM Michael Gage said the following: >> >>> I agree. There is some hope that we can recover this eventually >>> since I believe it is a one time >>> data loss caused by the move. The posts in the archive forum still >>> have the date preserved on the internal >>> data. The newer posts from the last 6 months don't have any dates. >>> >>> As I said I'm still saving all of the original forums -- it may be >>> that we'll need direct access to the mysql database >>> on the maa machine in order to transfer the posts over with data. >>> Except for the archived posts there are only a few hundred entries so >>> it could be done somewhat manually. >>> >>> Anyone have any suggestions? > Hi Sam, > >> I'm wondering if it's possible to post each Frontier message as a >> separate message in Moodle, rather than having an entire discussion >> end >> up as a single Moodle message. >> > We could do a little custom programming that would output the > frontier database into xml. > (Frontier has automatic xml creation from it's internal structures so > it wouldn't be too hard.) > Then you'd have to transform it into some kind of xml that moodle > could read. I would be willing to work on this if you think it would be useful. Could you make an XML dump of the discussion site for me? >> The one snag I can think of is that each message needs to have a user >> associated with it, and we probably don't want to deal with the >> headache >> of importing all the old users from the Frontier site. Now that I think about it, we could define a dummy user ("Legacy Discussions") and assign all posts to it. >> As far as the posting dates go, dates seem to be part of the exported >> XML file format -- the <POST> structure has <CREATED> and <MODIFIED> >> field, and the <DISCUSSION> structure has a <TIMEMODIFIED> field >> (which >> should probably match the <MODIFIED> parameter of the most recently >> modified <POST> within it). >> >> So I guess I'm unclear on how the post times got lost in the first >> place. > > I think it's a bug in the archiving method of moodle -- or perhaps > the unarchiving method. If you look at the > xml from the backup files you find timestart=0 and timeend=0 . If > I look in the database the time stamp is definitely 0. > > It's kind of clear what data is missing. > The question is how to fix it without direct access to the MAA database. I did an export of the main course (course id 1, named "webwork") and I'm seeing valid dates in the <CREATED> and <MODIFIED> fields of each post. For example: <MOODLE_BACKUP> <COURSE> <MODULES> <MOD> <ID>1</ID> <MODTYPE>forum</MODTYPE> <TYPE>news</TYPE> <NAME>Site news</NAME> <INTRO>General news and announcements.</INTRO> <DISCUSSIONS> <DISCUSSION> <ID>1</ID> <NAME>Experimental WeBWorK Documentation and Discussion Group Site</NAME> # <ID> of first <POST> <FIRSTPOST>1</FIRSTPOST> <USERID>4</USERID> <GROUPID>-1</GROUPID> <ASSESSED>1</ASSESSED> # <MODIFIED> of most recently modified <POST>? <TIMEMODIFIED>1164156062</TIMEMODIFIED> # <USERID> of most recently modified <POST>? <USERMODIFIED>4</USERMODIFIED> # No idea what these are... <TIMESTART>0</TIMESTART> <TIMEEND>0</TIMEEND> <POSTS> <POST> <ID>1</ID> <PARENT>0</PARENT> <USERID>4</USERID> # Translates as Tue Nov 21 19:30:59 2006, which is correct <CREATED>1164155459</CREATED> # Translates as Tue Nov 21 19:41:02 2006, which is correct <MODIFIED>1164156062</MODIFIED> <MAILED>1</MAILED> <SUBJECT>Experimental WeBWorK Documentation and Discussion Group Site</SUBJECT> <MESSAGE>...</MESSAGE> </POST> </POSTS> </DISCUSSION> </DISCUSSIONS> </MOD> </MODULES> </COURSE> </MOODLE_BACKUP> Getting an export of the "main" course was somewhat difficult. I couldn't find a way to do it through the UI -- I had to go into another course and click "Backup", then replace the id parameter in the URL with id=1. How did you do it? > While we're on the subject I'm having trouble handling "student > enrollments" on the MAA moodle as well. I created the AIM course > for this upcoming workshop and it seems to have automatically > enrolled all the current members of the site -- and when I try to > unenroll them nothing happens. ???? I haven't been able to track > this one down. I'll try to duplicate it on my local copy of moodle. I'm seeing 77 users listed as participants in the aimWW course, and all of them have a "current role" of "student". However, when I go into the "Assign roles" screen, it lists all roles having 0 users. I don't see any place to unenrol users, and there's nothing in the course settings about automatically enrolling users. -sam |