Re: [WWdevel] invisible (vs. unpublished) sets

[Michael G. <ga...@ma...>]

Hi Gavin,

I think there is some use in having having a set invisible implies  
that it cannot be worked on -- for example I've made sets invisible  
because there was a glitch in one
of the problems and I wanted to prevent further student frustration  
until I'd fixed the set.  So I didn't want them either seeing or  
doing the set.

If we have write   "is_a_gatewayquiz_set()" function (does this exist  
already)  we could pretty easily add something to the course  
configuration that
determines whether or not gateway tests are listed on the front page  
or not.  That wouldn't interfere with the current behavior of non- 
gateway sets
and I think would do what you want.  Invisible vs. visible wouldn't  
be involved at all.  An Invisible gateway set would not show up but  
would also not be doable.
Implementing it would involve some changes to ProblemSets.pm,  
global.conf and course.conf but not much else.

take care,

Mike


On Oct 26, 2005, at 9:03 AM, P Gavin LaRose wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Here is an issue that has come up in my continued testing of the  
> Gateway module for WeBWorK.  Sets currently have a 'published'  
> characteristic, which determines whether (a) students can see the  
> set, and (b) they are allowed to work the set.  The distinction is  
> significant because of WeBWorK2's ability to directly go to a set  
> using a URL.
>
> In playing with Gateway testing, it occurred to me that I'd rather  
> not have proctored gateway sets (which students have to go to a lab  
> to take) show up in their problem set list.  (When they go to the  
> lab, they start from a page that points them directly to the  
> proctored test.)  One way of doing this is to make the set  
> unpublished, but then, according to rule (b) above, the students  
> should then also not be able to take it.
>
> So I'm curious whether you have an opinion about this: should  
> proctored gateway tests by default be invisible on the problem set  
> list page? Should the gateway test module ignore part (b) of the  
> unpublished description?  Should I give up on this and just have  
> the proctored tests show up in the set list?
>
> Thanks,
> Gavin
>
> p.s. FYI: currently, the set list for gateway tests appears  
> something like the following:
>   Take new DerivativeGW test          open, due 11/16/2005 at  
> 11:59pm EST
>   DerivativeGW (test1)         1/7     Sun Oct 23 21:30:28 2005
>   DerivativeGW (test2)         0/7     Mon Oct 24 08:15:49 2005
>   ProctoredDerivGW (test1)     0/7     Mon Oct 24 08:22:38 2005
>   ProctoredDerivGW (test2)     0/7     Mon Oct 24 08:23:33 2005
>
> The first is a link to take a practice test; the next two are  
> practice tests that have been taken and can be reviewed (and  
> checked, but not resubmitted); the last two are proctored tests  
> that have been taken and can be reviewed (and checked, but not  
> resubmitted).  The link that's omitted because the set is  
> unpublished is the "Take new ProctoredDerivGW test".
>
> -- 
> P. Gavin LaRose, Ph.D.  Program Manager (Instructional Tech.)
> Math Dept., University of Michigan
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> trying," [Alice]
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> haven't had
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> Queen.
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> Lewis Carrol
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