From: Dotan C. <dot...@gm...> - 2009-04-21 15:03:42
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I have been following OpenSync development for about two years, hoping to have sync between my Nokia 6288 and KDE-PIM (specifically, Kaddressbook and Korganizer, the contacts and calendar components). However, it seems that the rate of progress stands at about one issue closed per week (http://www.opensync.org/roadmap?show=all), and at that rate 0.41 ("Completing this milestone will lift the distribution packaging ban.") will be ready in around August 2010. So in the most troll-free and understanding manner, I ask the community what I, as a user, can do to get my contacts on the phone in a stable, non-hacky manner. Should I switch to Windows / Outlook / Nokia's sync suite? Should I donate $20 to the Opensync project? Should I learn to program and fix it myself? I appreciate the dev's work and I am _not_ complaining. I am only asking because I have been waiting for a long time and it does not look like the wait is going to end anytime soon. There is no need to be defensive, I understand the dimensions of the problems being solved by the devs and I am very grateful for their work. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il |
From: Gerd B. <ger...@go...> - 2009-04-21 18:40:54
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Dotan, I really share your thoughts. Like others I'd pay for a working sync software after having spent a lot of hours configuring and testing opensync versions - without success. Dotan Cohen wrote: > I have been following OpenSync development for about two years, hoping > to have sync between my Nokia 6288 and KDE-PIM (specifically, > Kaddressbook and Korganizer, the contacts and calendar components). > However, it seems that the rate of progress stands at about one issue > closed per week (http://www.opensync.org/roadmap?show=all), and at > that rate 0.41 ("Completing this milestone will lift the distribution > packaging ban.") will be ready in around August 2010. So in the most > troll-free and understanding manner, I ask the community what I, as a > user, can do to get my contacts on the phone in a stable, non-hacky > manner. Should I switch to Windows / Outlook / Nokia's sync suite? > Should I donate $20 to the Opensync project? Should I learn to program > and fix it myself? > > I appreciate the dev's work and I am _not_ complaining. I am only > asking because I have been waiting for a long time and it does not > look like the wait is going to end anytime soon. There is no need to > be defensive, I understand the dimensions of the problems being solved > by the devs and I am very grateful for their work. > Kind regards Gerd -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Gerd Bavendiek Linux Users check out: ger...@go... http://linos.wordpress.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |
From: Bjoern R. <bjo...@go...> - 2009-04-22 10:00:29
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Hi Dotan, the biggest problem of opensync is that the project is lacking of developers. Currently there are only a few guys (summarized maybe 2.5 people) which are working on the core to get a new release and no one of us has much free time to spend on hacking. I started to work on opensync more than one year ago and can't say that I understand all parts. Therefore I am not able to fix all kind of tickets (i.e. http://www.opensync.org/ticket/1084) and rely on Daniels knowledge. Daniel is the only one who (nearly) knows the complete code and has an overview of all problems. But recently he started a new job and I guess that's the reason (besides the nice weather ;-) ) why the development stagnates again. Many many people are asking why opensync isn't ready and it really s***ks to me too that we don't have a stable version yet. But also nobody appears who is able to take a look at the code and make some patches. THAT would be really helpful. I don't think that money is going to speed up the development (except you are able to pay for a developer ;-) ) I have a job beside opensync and therefore I have to find some rare time to spend on it. Money wouldn't make a difference to me. So if you are willing to work on opensync maybe you can try to look at the code. Start to write some patches for the trivial tickets https://www.opensync.org/report/13 or write/improve a plugin to understand the behaviour of opensync. This ticket https://www.opensync.org/ticket/972 could also be a good starting point. Feel free to ask on the mailing list if you have additional questions. Btw. not all tickets need much work. There are a lot of tickets which are invalid already or can be fixed in some mins. But currently we have to focus on the blockers for 0.39. > I have been following OpenSync development for about two years, hoping > to have sync between my Nokia 6288 and KDE-PIM (specifically, > Kaddressbook and Korganizer, the contacts and calendar components). > However, it seems that the rate of progress stands at about one issue > closed per week (http://www.opensync.org/roadmap?show=all), and at > that rate 0.41 ("Completing this milestone will lift the distribution > packaging ban.") will be ready in around August 2010. So in the most > troll-free and understanding manner, I ask the community what I, as a > user, can do to get my contacts on the phone in a stable, non-hacky > manner. Should I switch to Windows / Outlook / Nokia's sync suite? > Should I donate $20 to the Opensync project? Should I learn to program > and fix it myself? > > I appreciate the dev's work and I am _not_ complaining. I am only > asking because I have been waiting for a long time and it does not > look like the wait is going to end anytime soon. There is no need to > be defensive, I understand the dimensions of the problems being solved > by the devs and I am very grateful for their work. > > -- /Bjoern Ricks |
From: Chris F. <cd...@fo...> - 2009-04-22 10:09:15
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I'm not a primary developer, just a bugfix committer and the Barry plugin maintainer, but some thoughts... On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 06:03:32PM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote: > However, it seems that the rate of progress stands at about one issue > closed per week (http://www.opensync.org/roadmap?show=all), and at > that rate 0.41 ("Completing this milestone will lift the distribution > packaging ban.") will be ready in around August 2010. Nice analysis :-) > So in the most > troll-free and understanding manner, I ask the community what I, as a > user, can do to get my contacts on the phone in a stable, non-hacky > manner. > Should I switch to Windows / Outlook / Nokia's sync suite? This will likely get the job done the fastest for you. > Should I donate $20 to the Opensync project? While any donations are likely welcome (I can't speak on opensync's behalf), in practical and honest terms, $20 won't go far, and likely won't bring you the results you desire. > Should I learn to program and fix it myself? If opensync is your favourite solution, this _will_ help... but honestly, if you've never programmed before, that estimated 2010 date of yours might not move much. :-) When 0.40 is released, testing will be needed. I don't know if you've built 0.3x from sources and tested, but 0.40 will be the prime time to do so, and you don't have to be a programmer for that. You just need to be determined. Don't wait for binary packages, and plan on hitting roadblocks that will take persistence to solve, and you'll be ok. Fortunately, I suspect that you won't have to wait until 2010 for version 0.40. - Chris |
From: Dotan C. <dot...@gm...> - 2009-04-22 10:34:57
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> the biggest problem of opensync is that the project is lacking of > developers. Currently there are only a few guys (summarized maybe 2.5 > people) which are working on the core to get a new release and no one of > us has much free time to spend on hacking. I started to work on opensync > more than one year ago and can't say that I understand all parts. > Therefore I am not able to fix all kind of tickets (i.e. > http://www.opensync.org/ticket/1084) and rely on Daniels knowledge. > Daniel is the only one who (nearly) knows the complete code and has an > overview of all problems. But recently he started a new job and I guess > that's the reason (besides the nice weather ;-) ) why the development > stagnates again. > > Many many people are asking why opensync isn't ready and it really > s***ks to me too that we don't have a stable version yet. But also > nobody appears who is able to take a look at the code and make some > patches. THAT would be really helpful. I don't think that money is going > to speed up the development (except you are able to pay for a developer > ;-) ) I have a job beside opensync and therefore I have to find some > rare time to spend on it. Money wouldn't make a difference to me. > > So if you are willing to work on opensync maybe you can try to look at > the code. Start to write some patches for the trivial tickets > https://www.opensync.org/report/13 or write/improve a plugin to > understand the behaviour of opensync. This ticket > https://www.opensync.org/ticket/972 could also be a good starting point. > Feel free to ask on the mailing list if you have additional questions. > > Btw. not all tickets need much work. There are a lot of tickets which > are invalid already or can be fixed in some mins. But currently we have > to focus on the blockers for 0.39. I see, thanks Bjoern. Other than a single C course, I know nothing of coding, and it would be far after August 2010 before I finish a CS degree! Your efforts are appreciated, make no mistake, and I know that "real life" often gets in the way of the things that we would like to be doing. I will quietly go back to the Redmond-based system that I had previously (abandoned three and a half years ago), as that worked fine for syncing my contacts and calendar with my phones. KDE-PIM is great, but it needs to be complete with working syncing first. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il |
From: Philip T. (List) <ph...@te...> - 2009-04-22 11:27:14
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On Wed, 2009-04-22 at 13:34 +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote: > I will quietly go back to the Redmond-based system that I had > previously (abandoned three and a half years ago), as that worked fine > for syncing my contacts and calendar with my phones. KDE-PIM is great, > but it needs to be complete with working syncing first. > Well, I use a couple of methods here for syncing my E71 with Evolution on my desktop: 1. I use egroupware: www.egroupware.org as a syncml server to sync between my phone and evolution 2. I also use mobical.net which I mainly have as an independent backup of the phone, and it can also sync text messages as well. I am just mentioning this as there are alternatives that are not windows based. If you use thunderbird and lighning, the sync options with egroupware are easier, as well as mobical. I have been keeping an eye on opensync, ever since I used multisync a few years ago, but it stopped working a while ago, and I just don't have the time to debug. It is a great project though, and I think it will develop, and when I get the time I will be debugging and submitting reports. HTH, Phil |
From: Chris C. <ran...@gm...> - 2009-04-22 11:34:45
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On Wed, 2009-04-22 at 06:08 -0400, Chris Frey wrote: > I'm not a primary developer, just a bugfix committer and the Barry > plugin maintainer, but some thoughts... I'm not even one of those - just someone who thinks that an extensible, open source sync suite is one of the most important things currently missing from the world of free software. > > Should I switch to Windows / Outlook / Nokia's sync suite? > > This will likely get the job done the fastest for you. But it will not move any of us closer to the above goal. I have used the Nokia suite for my E90, and it's extremely poor, not to mention hugely bloated. It's the usual story: it's written to work on one OS and to sync with one vendor's software, and it doesn't even do that very well. > > Should I learn to program and fix it myself? > > If opensync is your favourite solution, this _will_ help... but honestly, > if you've never programmed before, that estimated 2010 date of yours > might not move much. :-) But every little helps. I am not much of a programmer at all, but I've recently re-learned a little after a 20-year gap. Everybody recommends the original book "The C Programming Language" by Kernighan & Ritchie, but I have to say that I found it too sparse for my learning style. I bought "The C All-in-one Desk Reference For Dummies", and I've found it really helpful. (There is plain old "C For Dummies" too, but that doesn't have as much stuff in it.) (I've just seen Dotan's latest response about going back to Windows - I just want to say that you don't have to have a CS degree to be able to contribute meaningfully to open source projects. I was inspired by Bjoern's response, and I plan to have a look at some of the trivial tickets as soon as I can.) > When 0.40 is released, testing will be needed. I don't know if you've > built 0.3x from sources and tested, but 0.40 will be the prime time to > do so, and you don't have to be a programmer for that. You just need > to be determined. Don't wait for binary packages, and plan on hitting > roadblocks that will take persistence to solve, and you'll be ok. > > Fortunately, I suspect that you won't have to wait until 2010 > for version 0.40. This is good too. Everyone who cannot contribute patches can and should contribute test results and bug reports. Regards, CC |
From: Dotan C. <dot...@gm...> - 2009-04-22 18:06:36
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> (I've just seen Dotan's latest response about going back to Windows - I > just want to say that you don't have to have a CS degree to be able to > contribute meaningfully to open source projects. I was inspired by > Bjoern's response, and I plan to have a look at some of the trivial > tickets as soon as I can.) > I certainly will not go back to Windows for everyday computing, but if seems that setting up a VMware virtual machine, exporting my KDEPIM data to Outlook, then from Outlook to the Nokia suite, then from the Nokia suite to the phone is easier than setting up OpenSync for the foreseeable future. Again, this is not a stab at the devs, whom I appreciate very much, but it is the reality of the situation. The only problem is that my Windows license covers a machine that I no longer use, and it seems that the license is not transferable. So that means either forking out $$$ for a Windows license (Can XP be bought any more?) or using pirated software. Neither option seems appealing to me. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il |
From: Dotan C. <dot...@gm...> - 2009-04-22 18:06:41
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> (I've just seen Dotan's latest response about going back to Windows - I > just want to say that you don't have to have a CS degree to be able to > contribute meaningfully to open source projects. I was inspired by > Bjoern's response, and I plan to have a look at some of the trivial > tickets as soon as I can.) > I certainly will not go back to Windows for everyday computing, but if seems that setting up a VMware virtual machine, exporting my KDEPIM data to Outlook, then from Outlook to the Nokia suite, then from the Nokia suite to the phone is easier than setting up OpenSync for the foreseeable future. Again, this is not a stab at the devs, whom I appreciate very much, but it is the reality of the situation. The only problem is that my Windows license covers a machine that I no longer use, and it seems that the license is not transferable. So that means either forking out $$$ for a Windows license (Can XP be bought any more?) or using pirated software. Neither option seems appealing to me. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il |
From: Dotan C. <dot...@gm...> - 2009-04-22 11:37:32
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> Well, I use a couple of methods here for syncing my E71 with Evolution > on my desktop: > Thanks, Phil. I did have an E71 some time ago, but I quickly went back to the non-Symbian 6288 for performance reasons. As the 6288 is a much more responsive device and neither would sync with KDEPIM, it was a no brainer. > 1. I use egroupware: www.egroupware.org as a syncml server to sync > between my phone and evolution > This looks to be overly complex and expensive. I do not need web access, and 100 Euro setup fee + 30 Euros per month is steep. > 2. I also use mobical.net which I mainly have as an independent backup > of the phone, and it can also sync text messages as well. > Can this be used for syncing? The webpage is rather vague on the subject, though as they claim to support "multiple devices" it _should_ technically be possible. > I am just mentioning this as there are alternatives that are not windows > based. > If anyone knows of other alternatives, I am all ears (eyes). > If you use thunderbird and lighning, the sync options with egroupware > are easier, as well as mobical. > I do not use those products. > I have been keeping an eye on opensync, ever since I used multisync a > few years ago, but it stopped working a while ago, and I just don't have > the time to debug. > > It is a great project though, and I think it will develop, and when I > get the time I will be debugging and submitting reports. > -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il |
From: Philip T. (List) <ph...@te...> - 2009-04-22 12:50:12
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On Wed, 2009-04-22 at 14:37 +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote: > > Well, I use a couple of methods here for syncing my E71 with Evolution > > on my desktop: > > > > Thanks, Phil. I did have an E71 some time ago, but I quickly went back > to the non-Symbian 6288 for performance reasons. As the 6288 is a much > more responsive device and neither would sync with KDEPIM, it was a no > brainer. > > > > > 1. I use egroupware: www.egroupware.org as a syncml server to sync > > between my phone and evolution > > > > This looks to be overly complex and expensive. I do not need web > access, and 100 Euro setup fee + 30 Euros per month is steep. > Hi Dotan, I neglected to mention you can install it locally, it works well in my work environment. > > > > 2. I also use mobical.net which I mainly have as an independent backup > > of the phone, and it can also sync text messages as well. > > > > Can this be used for syncing? The webpage is rather vague on the > subject, though as they claim to support "multiple devices" it > _should_ technically be possible. Yes it can. They support syncml 1.1 and 1.2, so if you have a client that suports it they should work fine. Also: >From the FAQ: Can I export my Mobical data? There is an export button at the top of the contacts and the appointments view. Mobical exports all contacts in one vCard 2.1 (contacts.vcf) file and all appointments in one vCalendar 1.0 (appointments.vcs) file. You can also acquire your appointments in the iCalendar 2.0 (ics.ics) format from https://www.mobical.net/mobical/ics using your Mobical username and password. > > > I am just mentioning this as there are alternatives that are not windows > > based. > > > > If anyone knows of other alternatives, I am all ears (eyes). > > Same here > > > If you use thunderbird and lighning, the sync options with egroupware > > are easier, as well as mobical. > > > > I do not use those products. > > > I have been keeping an eye on opensync, ever since I used multisync a > > few years ago, but it stopped working a while ago, and I just don't have > > the time to debug. > > > > It is a great project though, and I think it will develop, and when I > > get the time I will be debugging and submitting reports. > > > > Phil |
From: Dotan C. <dot...@gm...> - 2009-04-22 18:08:25
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>> Can this be used for syncing? The webpage is rather vague on the >> subject, though as they claim to support "multiple devices" it >> _should_ technically be possible. > > Yes it can. > > They support syncml 1.1 and 1.2, so if you have a client that suports it > they should work fine. > > Also: > >From the FAQ: > > Can I export my Mobical data? > > There is an export button at the top of the contacts and the > appointments view. Mobical exports all contacts in one vCard 2.1 > (contacts.vcf) file and all appointments in one vCalendar 1.0 > (appointments.vcs) file. You can also acquire your appointments in the > iCalendar 2.0 (ics.ics) format from https://www.mobical.net/mobical/ics > using your Mobical username and password. > My issue is just the opposite: I want my data to go one way from KDEPIM to the phone. It appears that I could import vcard and vcalendar files that KDEPIM creates, but that means manually updating the entire contacts / calendar list any time there is a change. That would be several times per week. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il |
From: Adrià C. M. <sso...@es...> - 2009-04-22 19:39:21
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A Dimecres, 22 d'abril de 2009 20:08:06, Dotan Cohen va escriure: > >> Can this be used for syncing? The webpage is rather vague on the > >> subject, though as they claim to support "multiple devices" it > >> _should_ technically be possible. > > > > Yes it can. > > > > They support syncml 1.1 and 1.2, so if you have a client that suports it > > they should work fine. > > > > Also: > > >From the FAQ: > > > > Can I export my Mobical data? > > > > There is an export button at the top of the contacts and the > > appointments view. Mobical exports all contacts in one vCard 2.1 > > (contacts.vcf) file and all appointments in one vCalendar 1.0 > > (appointments.vcs) file. You can also acquire your appointments in the > > iCalendar 2.0 (ics.ics) format from https://www.mobical.net/mobical/ics > > using your Mobical username and password. > > My issue is just the opposite: I want my data to go one way from > KDEPIM to the phone. It appears that I could import vcard and > vcalendar files that KDEPIM creates, but that means manually updating > the entire contacts / calendar list any time there is a change. That > would be several times per week. Well, i know another alternative, which i've been using for a while, and it really works very nice even with kdepim. It's scheduleworld I don't know egroupware, but it seems a similar solution - and for free. It's mainly focused to evolution, thunderbird, MS outlook and to syncML clients, but with a careful setup of korganizer, kontact and syncevolution you can get them to work properly. A more detailed explanation on how to achieve it is explained in scheduleworld's wiki, and it has also a veru nice support forum. It also features a web-based imap client... |
From: Dotan C. <dot...@gm...> - 2009-04-22 19:27:12
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> Well, i know another alternative, which i've been using for a while, and it > really works very nice even with kdepim. > > It's scheduleworld > > I don't know egroupware, but it seems a similar solution - and for free. > It's mainly focused to evolution, thunderbird, MS outlook and to syncML > clients, but with a careful setup of korganizer, kontact and syncevolution > you can get them to work properly. A more detailed explanation on how to > achieve it is explained in scheduleworld's wiki, and it has also a veru nice > support forum. > > It also features a web-based imap client... Thanks. The KDE 4 sync method seems buggy but workable, here is the page describing it: http://wiki.scheduleworld.com/wiki/Linux_KDE_4_Configuration -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il |
From: Jason G. <exp...@lo...> - 2009-04-23 12:40:26
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On Tue, 2009-04-21 at 18:03 +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote: > I have been following OpenSync development for about two years, hoping ... > asking because I have been waiting for a long time and it does not > look like the wait is going to end anytime soon. Thanks for raising this thread - it echoes my own perception of this project, and I think it is useful for the developers to get a feel for the user's experiences and perceptions. I have spent many hours compiling/configuring/troubleshooting (from a user's perspective) over the years with a number of mainstream phones, and have never been able to get reliable sync'ing across contacts, notes & todos. I note that Fedora have recently attempted downgrades including 0.38 and 0.36, and have now reverted to 0.22 with observations on their devel list that plugins are unusable. My sense of the project is that howtos, configuration guides, functional status reports, design documentation, and functional stability have been of a lower priority than internal re-architectures, changes to build systems, new configuration formats, etc. (Apologies if I'm off-target) My point is that investment in documentation and stability on a reduced plugin set would IMO pay-off rather quickly because it would reduce the perceived barrier of entry for use, testing, and development. Folk like me would no longer need to reverse-engineer to figure things out, and you'd attract more people who aren't prepared to reverse-engineer or await responses on the mailing list. I'm also tracking the scheduleworld alternative because it permits sync'ing over bluetooth, and sits on the funambool stack, which seems to be very mature and reliable. syncevolution allows me to keep the phone and evolution in sync. I have had trouble with the older firefox plugins: http://www.scheduleworld.com/jforum/posts/list/2200.page and alas scheduleworld is closed source, so there is no scope to team up on the code, although Mark is very responsive in his forum. I note that a new edition of the firefox plugin has been released recently that may work better, although I have not tried it yet: http://www.scheduleworld.com/jforum/posts/list/1605.page J. |
From: Bjoern R. <bjo...@go...> - 2009-04-23 13:47:13
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> I have spent many hours compiling/configuring/troubleshooting (from a > user's perspective) over the years with a number of mainstream phones, > and have never been able to get reliable sync'ing across contacts, notes > & todos. I note that Fedora have recently attempted downgrades > including 0.38 and 0.36, and have now reverted to 0.22 with observations > on their devel list that plugins are unusable. > That's another topic which got most developers/members of opensync very frustrated. All 0.3x versions shouldn't have been incuded in a distro. > My sense of the project is that howtos, configuration guides, functional > status reports, design documentation, and functional stability have been > of a lower priority than internal re-architectures, changes to build > systems, new configuration formats, etc. (Apologies if I'm off-target) > My point is that investment in documentation and stability on a reduced > plugin set would IMO pay-off rather quickly because it would reduce the > perceived barrier of entry for use, testing, and development. Folk like > me would no longer need to reverse-engineer to figure things out, and > you'd attract more people who aren't prepared to reverse-engineer or > await responses on the mailing list. > I am not sure if you read my previous mail in this thread therefore I'll make some comments. First the architecture of the stable version (0.22) isn't suitable for all needs therefore a rewrite of the engine was necessary in the past. That decision was taken before I started to hack on opensync. The development branch (0.3X) was intended "for developers and testers only and may not even compile or are likely to contain severe bugs" (quote from opensync.org). But the dev branch is coming closer to his end. The next release 0.39 will have a stable api and will be some kind of beta version. Second we are aware of these problems and AGAIN we are really lacking of developers. We know the shortcomings of this (horrible long) development branch and the always changing api. We know that we have lost a lot of people on this journey. But we are trying really hard to get all remaining tickets fixed and release a new stable version. But mind that I don't have (and I guess also Daniel hasn't) much free time to work on opensync. regards Bjoern -- /Bjoern Ricks |
From: Dotan C. <dot...@gm...> - 2009-04-23 14:14:38
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> First the architecture of the stable version (0.22) isn't suitable for > all needs therefore a rewrite of the engine was necessary in the past. > That decision was taken before I started to hack on opensync. The > development branch (0.3X) was intended "for developers and testers only > and may not even compile or are likely to contain severe bugs" (quote > from opensync.org). But the dev branch is coming closer to his end. The > next release 0.39 will have a stable api and will be some kind of beta > version. > As we have seen with KDE 4.0 and 4.1, distros generally don't care if the developers say "not for end users", they will push out the latest unready code regardless. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il |
From: Jelle de J. <jel...@po...> - 2009-05-08 14:56:35
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Dotan Cohen wrote: > I have been following OpenSync development for about two years, hoping > to have sync between my Nokia 6288 and KDE-PIM (specifically, > Kaddressbook and Korganizer, the contacts and calendar components). > However, it seems that the rate of progress stands at about one issue > closed per week (http://www.opensync.org/roadmap?show=all), and at > that rate 0.41 ("Completing this milestone will lift the distribution > packaging ban.") will be ready in around August 2010. So in the most > troll-free and understanding manner, I ask the community what I, as a > user, can do to get my contacts on the phone in a stable, non-hacky > manner. Should I switch to Windows / Outlook / Nokia's sync suite? > Should I donate $20 to the Opensync project? Should I learn to program > and fix it myself? > > I appreciate the dev's work and I am _not_ complaining. I am only > asking because I have been waiting for a long time and it does not > look like the wait is going to end anytime soon. There is no need to > be defensive, I understand the dimensions of the problems being solved > by the devs and I am very grateful for their work. > I can stand behind this, i created several bug reports, i want a solution that my syncml based telephones can sync trough bluetooth with a server that uses open standards. The desktops has the settings to connect to the server and the communicate with the telephone. I am willing to donate money or hire an developer I can probably get a some other organizations to sponsor too. Is there any developer or dutch contributer that want to step up? bug5: i would like to set a bounty or hire an developer to fix, improve and innovate http://www.opensync.org/ticket/1073 bug1: create a syncml-ldap plugin that can sync contacts with a remote server http://www.opensync.org/ticket/1069 bug2: create a syncml-caldav plugin that can sync calenders with a remote server http://www.opensync.org/ticket/1070 bug3: create a syncml-imap plugin that can synchronize emails with a remote server http://www.opensync.org/ticket/1071 bug4: create a syncml-filters plugin that can synchronize mailfilters with a server http://www.opensync.org/ticket/1072 Best regards, Jelle de Jong |