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From: Shachar Or <daw...@la...> - 2008-05-31 20:43:07
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Hello. I'm about to purchase a cellular phone and I want this phone to synchronize the contacts and calendar with my computer via Bluetooth or USB, preferrably Bluetooth. I'm running Debian GNU/Linux 4.0, which has OpenSync 0.19. I'm attracted towards purchasing a Motorola i876 and I notice that it is not in the device lists. Why is there such an absence of Motorola devices from the list? Is there a chance that it will work? Am I much better off purchasing a device knows to work? Are there any recommendations? The devices that are offered "for free" by the local cellular operators are: Nokia 6120C Nokia 6288 Nokia 6267 Motorola K1 Motorola V3m Motorola L7 Motorola K3 Motorola V6 Samsung Z370 Samsung z240 Samsung R500 Samsung R510 SE K770i SE W910i SE K610 SE W660i SE K800i So I can choose from any of these without hurting my pocket. If there are models that are known-excellent support which are not in this list, I may consider paying extra to get one. Also, is there a company that is considered to be more opensource friendly? One that releases datasheets and such? I would tend to prefer that company's products. -- Shachar Or | שחר אור http://ox.freeallweb.org/ |
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From: Rainer D. <rd...@we...> - 2008-05-31 22:23:39
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Hello, I have no direct answer to your question, but for Debian etch you can get version 0.22 from #opensync deb http://opensync.gforge.punktart.de/repo/opensync-0.21/ etch main deb-src http://opensync.gforge.punktart.de/repo/opensync-0.21/ etch main This might work for more phones than version 0.19. Rainer Am Samstag, 31. Mai 2008 schrieb Shachar Or: > Hello. > > I'm about to purchase a cellular phone and I want this phone to synchronize > the contacts and calendar with my computer via Bluetooth or USB, > preferrably Bluetooth. > > I'm running Debian GNU/Linux 4.0, which has OpenSync 0.19. > > I'm attracted towards purchasing a Motorola i876 and I notice that it is > not in the device lists. > > Why is there such an absence of Motorola devices from the list? > > Is there a chance that it will work? > > Am I much better off purchasing a device knows to work? > > Are there any recommendations? > > The devices that are offered "for free" by the local cellular operators > are: Nokia 6120C > Nokia 6288 > Nokia 6267 > Motorola K1 > Motorola V3m > Motorola L7 > Motorola K3 > Motorola V6 > Samsung Z370 > Samsung z240 > Samsung R500 > Samsung R510 > SE K770i > SE W910i > SE K610 > SE W660i > SE K800i > > So I can choose from any of these without hurting my pocket. If there are > models that are known-excellent support which are not in this list, I may > consider paying extra to get one. > > Also, is there a company that is considered to be more opensource friendly? > One that releases datasheets and such? I would tend to prefer that > company's products. -- Rainer Dorsch Lärchenstr. 6 D-72135 Dettenhausen 07157-734133 email: rd...@we... jabber: rd...@ja... GPG Fingerprint: 5966 C54C 2B3C 42CC 1F4F 8F59 E3A8 C538 7519 141E Full GPG key: http://pgp.mit.edu/ |
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From: Emanoil K. <del...@ya...> - 2008-06-02 08:50:06
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Hello, Rainer, I'm sorry to mix up into this discussion, but I don't think your answer is an answer of the question that was if you know which of those phones are well supported by linux. I'm writing this, because I have the same problem. I wrote this and no one helped and somebody told me to install opensync 0.21, but still no of my phones is working and I still DO NOT have an answer which phone is recommended to by. I have Nokia 6021 and SE K750i and I want to sync them over IRDA and this seems to be impossible ... Unfortunately no one helps and the answers I get are pretty general like yours. Could you please be more specific? What Phone/Model do you have and how are you syncing this (USB/BT/IR)? Thanks in advance and kind regards Rainer Dorsch <rd...@we...> wrote: Hello, I have no direct answer to your question, but for Debian etch you can get version 0.22 from #opensync deb http://opensync.gforge.punktart.de/repo/opensync-0.21/ etch main deb-src http://opensync.gforge.punktart.de/repo/opensync-0.21/ etch main This might work for more phones than version 0.19. Rainer Am Samstag, 31. Mai 2008 schrieb Shachar Or: > Hello. > > I'm about to purchase a cellular phone and I want this phone to synchronize > the contacts and calendar with my computer via Bluetooth or USB, > preferrably Bluetooth. > > I'm running Debian GNU/Linux 4.0, which has OpenSync 0.19. > > I'm attracted towards purchasing a Motorola i876 and I notice that it is > not in the device lists. > > Why is there such an absence of Motorola devices from the list? > > Is there a chance that it will work? > > Am I much better off purchasing a device knows to work? > > Are there any recommendations? > > The devices that are offered "for free" by the local cellular operators > are: Nokia 6120C > Nokia 6288 > Nokia 6267 > Motorola K1 > Motorola V3m > Motorola L7 > Motorola K3 > Motorola V6 > Samsung Z370 > Samsung z240 > Samsung R500 > Samsung R510 > SE K770i > SE W910i > SE K610 > SE W660i > SE K800i > > So I can choose from any of these without hurting my pocket. If there are > models that are known-excellent support which are not in this list, I may > consider paying extra to get one. > > Also, is there a company that is considered to be more opensource friendly? > One that releases datasheets and such? I would tend to prefer that > company's products. -- Rainer Dorsch Lärchenstr. 6 D-72135 Dettenhausen 07157-734133 email: rd...@we... jabber: rd...@ja... GPG Fingerprint: 5966 C54C 2B3C 42CC 1F4F 8F59 E3A8 C538 7519 141E Full GPG key: http://pgp.mit.edu/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ Opensync-users mailing list Ope...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/opensync-users |
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From: xyon <xy...@in...> - 2008-06-02 11:57:33
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> Could you please be more specific? What Phone/Model do you have and how are > you syncing this (USB/BT/IR)? I sync an n95 over Bluetooth with kontact/kdepim using opensync 0.22/libsyncml 0.4.5 without problem. Evolution worked too, but w/o notes. It seems many of the Nokia E and N series behave the same. HTH |
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From: Emanoil K. <del...@ya...> - 2008-06-02 12:55:12
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Hi, thanks for the post,
I sync an n95 over Bluetooth with kontact/kdepim using opensync 0.22/libsyncml
0.4.5 without problem. Evolution worked too, but w/o notes. It seems many of
the Nokia E and N series behave the same.
Ok lets put the question another way around ... Does somebody use IRDA for syncing and can report that it has been successfull and with which Phone/Model.
Besides even with bluetooth I was not possible to sync. My new notebook also, does not have bluetooth and I don't want to use it. I simply preffer infrared.
Is there a matrix per connection type (USB/BT/IR) of phones that have been reproted to sync properly. And I mean EVERYTHING syncing calender, notes etc in KDE?
What you are writing ... it syncs besides notes is also odd, so the sync is not working.
thanks again
and kind regards
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From: xyon <xy...@in...> - 2008-06-02 13:13:50
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> reproted to sync properly. And I mean EVERYTHING syncing calender, notes > etc in KDE? What you are writing ... it syncs besides notes is also odd, so > the sync is not working. Notes did not sync in EVOLUTION, and I would venture to say that's a problem with evo. You say you are using KDE/Kontact/KDEPIM, which works with all things (notes, todos, calendar). -- xyon |
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From: Dotan C. <dot...@gm...> - 2008-06-02 13:21:43
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2008/6/2 xyon <xy...@in...>: >> Could you please be more specific? What Phone/Model do you have and how are >> you syncing this (USB/BT/IR)? > > I sync an n95 over Bluetooth with kontact/kdepim using opensync 0.22/libsyncml > 0.4.5 without problem. Evolution worked too, but w/o notes. It seems many of > the Nokia E and N series behave the same. Note that those are Symbian phones, and none of the Nokias that the OP mentioned are Symbian. The 6288 (and possibly others) supports SyncML, so should that be enough to sync with KDE PIM? Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? |
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From: Emanoil K. <del...@ya...> - 2008-06-02 14:12:02
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So if I buy a simbian phone it should work with KDE is this what you mean? Two years ago I gave up my Palm III and used a Siemens S55. I was very lucky to sync everything with those devices. Then the Siemens got phisically broken and I replaced it with Nokia 6021. From my employer I've got a SE K750i and a notebook with IR. So now year after I'm kinda "downgraded" because I have a mess of unsynced data. I was planning to talk to my boss to purchaise a new phone or to buy myself one but want to know which model works for 100%. So do all the symbian phones sync wihtout problems OVER IR? thanks to you both for taking your time to contribute to the discussion because I can not stand this situation I have for so long. I've tried kde-pim because at least with the SE K750i the sync starts but fails in the middle, but again no one helps, so thanks a lot. Dotan Cohen <dot...@gm...> wrote: 2008/6/2 xyon : >> Could you please be more specific? What Phone/Model do you have and how are >> you syncing this (USB/BT/IR)? > > I sync an n95 over Bluetooth with kontact/kdepim using opensync 0.22/libsyncml > 0.4.5 without problem. Evolution worked too, but w/o notes. It seems many of > the Nokia E and N series behave the same. Note that those are Symbian phones, and none of the Nokias that the OP mentioned are Symbian. The 6288 (and possibly others) supports SyncML, so should that be enough to sync with KDE PIM? Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il ×-×-×-×-×-×-×-×-×-×-×-×-×-×-×-×-× -ס-×¢-×£-פ-×¥-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ Opensync-users mailing list Ope...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/opensync-users |
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From: Marc D. i A. <dam...@gm...> - 2008-06-02 15:01:25
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On Monday 02 June 2008 16:12:04 Emanoil Kotsev wrote: > So do all the symbian phones sync wihtout problems OVER IR? Sadly, you can't give that for granted :( However, I've had three symbian phones and always synced all of them without any problem Cheers -- Blog: damnshock.blogspot.com Fotolog: www.fotolog.com/damnshock |
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From: Dotan C. <dot...@gm...> - 2008-06-02 15:02:34
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2008/6/2 Emanoil Kotsev <del...@ya...>: > So if I buy a simbian phone it should work with KDE is this what you mean? Should, but that does not mean "does". Go to the local cellphone company with your laptop and tell them that you need sync with Linux, and ask if you can try. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? |
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From: Emanoil K. <del...@ya...> - 2008-06-02 18:15:44
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Hi, thanks,
Dotan Cohen <dot...@gm...> wrote:
Should, but that does not mean "does". Go to the local cellphone
So it is not granted :-(
company with your laptop and tell them that you need sync with Linux,
and ask if you can try.
When they hear linux, the look dull, and you can read in their eyes "System failure!!!" but I'll try to check kind of compatibility list and ask, who knows it won't hurt anyway.
May be some one could give me a usable advice how to check the IR config in opensync. What should I write here
<config>
<connectmedium>ir</connectmedium>
<irname>Sony Ericss</irname>
<irserial></irserial>
<cabletype>0</cabletype>
<cabledev>/dev/ircomm0</cabledev>
</config>
thanks in advance
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From: Dotan C. <dot...@gm...> - 2008-06-02 19:50:19
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Please do not post in HTML. 2008/6/2 Emanoil Kotsev <del...@ya...>: > > company with your laptop and tell them that you need sync with Linux, > > and ask if you can try. > > When they hear linux, the look dull, and you can read in their eyes "System > failure!!!" but I'll try to check kind of compatibility list and ask, who > knows it won't hurt anyway. I contacted the OP off-list, as we both live in the same area and I had already contacted 3 of the local cellular providers regarding synchronization with KDE-PIM. Two of them invited me to bring the laptop and to try before I purchase. I just have not gotten around to it yet. So if here two of the three cellphone providers were willing to let me try, then I imagine that anywhere else the odds are not so bad. They are in the business of making sales, you know, and the competition is fierce. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? |
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From: Emanoil K. <del...@ya...> - 2008-06-02 19:58:33
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I contacted the OP off-list, as we both live in the same area and I
.......
They are in the business of making sales, you know, and the
competition is fierce.
thank you for encouriging me. I'll try this.
meanwhile I tried the --slow-sync option
syncml-obex-client -s /dev/ircomm0 --identifier "Sony Ericss" --slow-sync --type "text/x-vcard"
connection with device succeeded
it said connected and with irdadump I see packets transfered and on the phone sync going on, but it is running now for may be an hour or so:
19:56:11.414036 rr:rsp < ca=0e pf=1 nr=7 (2)
19:56:11.917061 rr:cmd > ca=0e pf=1 nr=0 (2)
19:56:11.931705 rr:rsp < ca=0e pf=1 nr=7 (2)
19:56:12.433729 rr:cmd > ca=0e pf=1 nr=0 (2)
19:56:12.448411 rr:rsp < ca=0e pf=1 nr=7 (2)
19:56:12.950396 rr:cmd > ca=0e pf=1 nr=0 (2)
I think it is doing actually nothing, how can I check this? At the other hand I have about 300 contats saved in the phone - how long would it take to sync them using slow sync?
regards
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From: Dotan C. <dot...@gm...> - 2008-06-02 20:44:07
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2008/6/2 Emanoil Kotsev <del...@ya...>: > I think it is doing actually nothing, how can I check this? At the other > hand I have about 300 contats saved in the phone - how long would it take to > sync them using slow sync? > I'm not sure, as I've only ever tried syncing from KDE-PIM to the phone, not the other way. I suggest that you start a new thread on that subject, so that the whole list can review and find a solution for you. Emanoil, I assume that you are new to mailing lists so I'll brief you. To start a new thread (solve a new problem) compose a new message in your mail client (do NOT reply to another mail), address it to the list, and write a descriptive subject. Most people only read a very small portion of all the letters in a mailing list, and they choose based on subject. So someone who knows how to sync a Sony-Erikson phone, yet is not interested in giving advice on a cell phone purchase, will not see your question in this thread. Good luck. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? |
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From: Emanoil K. <del...@ya...> - 2008-06-02 23:50:11
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Hi, again,
I'm not sure, as I've only ever tried syncing from KDE-PIM to the
Syncing is (should be) bi-directional, the one way is copy ;-)
phone, not the other way. I suggest that you start a new thread on
that subject, so that the whole list can review and find a solution
for you.
Well I tried before, but no attention from anybody, so I used the abbility to put forward my questions.
Actually I think I'm experienced with lists.
Emanoil, I assume that you are new to mailing lists so I'll brief you.
To start a new thread (solve a new problem) compose a new message in
your mail client (do NOT reply to another mail), address it to the
list, and write a descriptive subject. Most people only read a very
small portion of all the letters in a mailing list, and they choose
based on subject. So someone who knows how to sync a Sony-Erikson
phone, yet is not interested in giving advice on a cell phone
purchase, will not see your question in this thread.
Actually I'm primary interested in buying one phone that can sync.
The advice to check with the local cell.phone distributor was really good, BUT how can I be sure that everything works at all, when I go to the shop???
I mean I am not sure that the problem is in the phone. I rather think it is a IRDA/OpenSync problem. Or something in my contacts/notes etc. files (may be not UTF or similar)
But you are right this is subject to another thread.
kind regards
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