opensync-users — The place to get help for the OpenSync project

[Opensync-users] New to opensync

[Somlyai <so...@t-...>]

Hello everyone!

I'm just subscribed to the mailinglist and I'm offering my help for bug=20
hunting, and any other things. I am a 20 years old student, and studying in=
=20
Hungary at the E=F6tv=F6s Lor=E1nd University of Science as a programmer. I=
'm also=20
working as a journalist, and I'm writing reviews about the latest mobile=20
phones and sometimes PDAs, so I can test opensync and it's plugins with the=
se=20
devices.
Is there any IRC room for opensync? Maybe we can start a #opensync at=20
freenode.

Re: [Opensync-users] Simplest way to sync CLI address book with cell phone.

[Armin B. <arm...@de...>]

Alex Polite wrote:
> Hi.
>
> I'm thinking of buying a new cell phone. One of the things I'm looking
> for is the ability to sync my emacs addresses to the phone.
>
> Right now I'm using abook but I'm willing to drop that for another CLI
> application. I'm not however willing to switch to Evolution.
>
> One solution that I'm looking at is using the LDAP syncing available
> in multisync and  some CLI client for LDAP and just buy any phone that
> is supported by Multisync.
>
> What are my other options?


The best bet you have is to go for any phone that supports syncml. in
some weeks the new syncml plugin should be ready for opensync (if you
can wait that long :)

Then you can sync your syncml phone directly to the file system without
the need to go over ldap.

Armin

[Opensync-users] Simplest way to sync CLI address book with cell phone.

[Alex P. <not...@gm...>]

Hi.

I'm thinking of buying a new cell phone. One of the things I'm looking
for is the ability to sync my emacs addresses to the phone.

Right now I'm using abook but I'm willing to drop that for another CLI
application. I'm not however willing to switch to Evolution.

One solution that I'm looking at is using the LDAP syncing available
in multisync and  some CLI client for LDAP and just buy any phone that
is supported by Multisync.

What are my other options?
--=20
Alex Polite
http://flosspick.org

Re: [Opensync-users] Opensync and Groupwise

[Michal S. <re...@at...>]

Hi!

Will is working on Groupwise support in KDE(PIM) and there's also an=20
ongoing discussion regarding KDE+opensync, so we might see something
in the future.

M.


---------- Forwarded message ----------

On Thursday 16 June 2005 15:01, Michal Svec wrote:

> > Is there anything like that?
>=20
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 10:22:14 +0200
> From: Roland Mouttet <rol...@ju...>
> To: ope...@li...
> Subject: [Opensync-users] Opensync and Groupwise
>=20
> Can somebody let me knows if it's possible to use opensync to =A0synchr=
onise=20
> P9xx, Palm and Pocket Pc with Groupwise from Novell, we'are searching a=
=20
> new solution to be able to synchronize our "mobiles devices" with=20
> Groupwise.

Not as yet, however, the opensync people are developing a KDEPIM plugin,=20
and I am working on the KDEPIM->GroupWise connector, so it's possible tha=
t=20
you could use both of those together.

Otherwise, I am happy to share what I know about talking to GroupWise ove=
r=20
SOAP so that a direct opensync to groupwise plugin could be written.

Will

[Opensync-users] Question on mapping fields between objects

[Cameron M. <cam...@ak...>]

Hi.

I'd like to get some synchronisation happening between my phone and my
computer, at least, but I have a question first.  My phone (SE T68i)
stores very limited information in its contacts.  It has fields for
Name, Home, Work, Mobile, Fax, Other and E-mail.  Quite often, I will
have phone numbers that don't fit into this scheme nicely, and I end up
squeezing, for example, a person's second mobile number into the Other
field.  In a different contact, I might use the Other field for some
other purpose, like their work's switchboard number.  Anyway, the point
is that I use this Other field on the phone in a variety of ways,
depending on the contact, while on my computer I have my contacts stored
in an XML file of my own devising where there is no such ambiguity.

Is it possible to have complex mapping rules with opensync such that if
I have a second mobile number in my XML file for a contact, that number
will go in to the Other field on my phone?  And if I originally enter a
number into the Other field on the phone then it shouldn't be assumed
that it is a second mobile number necessarily, and gets turned into a
generic "other" number in my XML file (to be later corrected by me by
hand if necessary)?

Another issue is that in my XML contacts file I specify the person's
family and given names, as well as a display name.  I want my phone to
have an entry called "Dad" rather than my father's full name, while in
my file I will have some markup like

  <contact>
    <name>
      <family-name>McCormack</family-name>
      <given-name>Alex</given-name>
    </name>
    <display-name>Dad</display-name>
    <!-- ... -->
  </contact>

Since on the phone it appears as a single Name field, I want to copy the
display name (and use that for identity checking purposes) to the phone
if one exists, otherwise it should copy the given name, a space, then
the family name.  If the contact is being copied from the phone to the
XML file, and it doesn't exist in the file yet, then it can default to
guessing that I entered it as given name, space, family name.  Some of
the people in my contacts file though have names where the family name
comes first, such as Chinese names.  Though it may be inconsistent for
searching on my phone, I want to have those listed as family name,
space, given name.  The fact that the name should be displayed with
family name first is specified with an attribute in my XML file.

Hopefully I can do this with opensync.  If not I might have to upgrade
my phone. ;-)  Of course I don't expect support to be added for my
bespoke XML file format, just that it is possible for me to write a
plugin that supports the complex field mapping that I would like.

Thanks,

Cameron

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[Opensync-users] OpenSync server going to moves

[Armin B. <arm...@de...>]

Hi,

i just installed my new server which will host opensync in the future.
Its a nice Dual 2Ghz machine hosted at the technical university of
munich with a connection of 100mbit to the backbone.
Downloading opensync has never been faster :)

So it might happen that the website and/or svn server goes offline
during the next days if something is not yet configured correctly at the
new site but i will fix such things quickly.

you can see some info about the new server here:
http://www.opensync.org/wiki/OpenSyncServer (might disappear once the
dns info gets updated)

Armin

[Opensync-users] Opensync and Groupwise

[Roland M. <rol...@ju...>]

Can somebody let me knows if it's possible to use opensync to  synchronise =
P9xx, Palm and Pocket Pc with Groupwise from Novell, we'are searching a =
new solution to be able to synchronize our "mobiles devices" with =
Groupwise.
=20
Thank you very much for your answer.
=20
Salutations cordiales
Roland Mouttet
=20
R=E9publique et Canton du Jura
Service de l'informatique
Integration Manager
Rue de la Justice 2
CH-2800 Delemont                  =20
T=E9l : +41 (0)32 420 5952 / Fax +41 (0)32 420 5901
Mobile : +41 (0)79 206 07 70
E-mail: rol...@ju...  =20

[Opensync-users] syncml again...

[Ciro S. <mo...@ol...>]

Hi,

How is the syncml plugin development going?
It seems the only way I could sync my p800 with linux :(

also, anybody knows if there is a way to sync the thunderbird/mozilla
addressbook with kdepim?

thnx.

Ciro.

[Opensync-users] work on syncml cleint for multisync

[Tamer H. <ta...@my...>]

Hi! 
Who is actually working on the syncml bluetooth client plugin for
multisync?! If there is anybody, I would love to step in. 


Tamer

Re: [Opensync-users] about syncing with syncml compliant phones

[Tamer H. <ta...@my...>]

Can you then tell me please where I have to watch out?! where can I get
the information if the SyncML bluetooth plugin is available somewhere to
download or not. 

And those files you offer to download, I downloaded them all, compiled
and installed them in my system. How can I use this application
multisync-.0.9.0.17 ?!

Tamer

Am Freitag, den 20.05.2005, 13:49 +0200 schrieb David Eriksson:
> On Fri, 2005-05-20 at 13:45 +0200, Tamer Higazi wrote:
> > Hi!
> > I have the Nokia 6670 cellulare phone and I am interisted syncing withe
> > the phone with the application multisync. The problem is that there is
> > no syncml bluetooth client. Is there any sollution available, and if not
> > planned?!
> 
> SyncML support is on its way; stay tuned.
> 

Re: [Opensync-users] about syncing with syncml compliant phones

[David E. <tw...@us...>]

On Fri, 2005-05-20 at 13:45 +0200, Tamer Higazi wrote:
> Hi!
> I have the Nokia 6670 cellulare phone and I am interisted syncing withe
> the phone with the application multisync. The problem is that there is
> no syncml bluetooth client. Is there any sollution available, and if not
> planned?!

SyncML support is on its way; stay tuned.

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               -\- David Eriksson -/-

        SynCE - http://synce.sourceforge.net
      ScummVM - http://scummvm.sourceforge.net
     Desquirr - http://desquirr.sourceforge.net

[Opensync-users] about syncing with syncml compliant phones

[Tamer H. <ta...@my...>]

Hi!
I have the Nokia 6670 cellulare phone and I am interisted syncing withe
the phone with the application multisync. The problem is that there is
no syncml bluetooth client. Is there any sollution available, and if not
planned?!

The other question... What are these for packages you offer to
download?! 


for any answer and help 

thank you in advance

Tamer

Re: [Opensync-users] syncml-Plugin

[Claudia R. <cla...@we...>]

Dear Armin, 

thanks for the quick answer. 


Am Freitag, 13. Mai 2005 13:32 schrieben Sie:
> Claudia Ringwald wrote:
> >Dear Mailinglist,
> >
> >is there any chance to see a syncml-plugin soon in opensync?
>
> im working really hard to get syncml plugin and the syncml library out
> of the door. Unfortunately it is not yet in the public repository, so
> please stay tuned.

I'll do.

>
> I guess that i will be done with the syncml library in around 2 weeks.


Great to hear. I will be patient. 
Thanks for the great job on this. 

Claudia Ringwald 


>
> >Thanks for information!
> >
> >Claudia Ringwald
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Re: [Opensync-users] Speaking of plugins....

[David E. <tw...@us...>]

[Returning discussion to mailing list.]

On Fri, 2005-05-13 at 14:06 +0200, ope...@me... wrote:
> Do you have any idea how much work this would be?

Not for sure, I haven't looked at the IrMC plugin for MultiSync 0.8x,
but I know that it's not very complicated to write an OpenSync plugin.
Maybe 40 hours work for the synchronization plugin and then some more
for the user interface?

> My C/C++ is very rusty and time is quite scarce, but it might be an
> interesting challenge to pick up....

Time is always scarce, isn't it? :-)

> Stanley.
> 
> 
> > On Fri, 2005-05-13 at 13:41 +0200, ope...@me... wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Is there any indication when the IrMC plugin (or replacement) will be
> >> available for Opensync?
> >
> > It's not ported from MultiSync 0.8x yet.
> >
> > If you have time do to it, go ahead!

-- 
Regards,
               -\- David Eriksson -/-

        SynCE - http://synce.sourceforge.net
      ScummVM - http://scummvm.sourceforge.net
     Desquirr - http://desquirr.sourceforge.net

Re: [Opensync-users] Speaking of plugins....

[David E. <tw...@us...>]

On Fri, 2005-05-13 at 13:41 +0200, ope...@me... wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Is there any indication when the IrMC plugin (or replacement) will be
> available for Opensync?

It's not ported from MultiSync 0.8x yet.

If you have time do to it, go ahead!

-- 
Regards,
               -\- David Eriksson -/-

        SynCE - http://synce.sourceforge.net
      ScummVM - http://scummvm.sourceforge.net
     Desquirr - http://desquirr.sourceforge.net

[Opensync-users] Speaking of plugins....

[<ope...@me...>]

Hi,

Is there any indication when the IrMC plugin (or replacement) will be
available for Opensync?

(or did I miss something and it's here already?)

Regards,
Stanley.

Re: [Opensync-users] syncml-Plugin

[Armin B. <arm...@de...>]

Claudia Ringwald wrote:

>Dear Mailinglist, 
>
>is there any chance to see a syncml-plugin soon in opensync? 
>  
>
im working really hard to get syncml plugin and the syncml library out 
of the door. Unfortunately it is not yet in the public repository, so 
please stay tuned.

I guess that i will be done with the syncml library in around 2 weeks.

>Thanks for information!
>
>Claudia Ringwald
>
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[Opensync-users] syncml-Plugin

[Claudia R. <cla...@we...>]

Dear Mailinglist, 

is there any chance to see a syncml-plugin soon in opensync? 

Thanks for information!

Claudia Ringwald

[Opensync-users] Re: [Fwd: Porting gnokii plugin to Opensync]

[Reczey B. <rb...@hs...>]

Hi!

I'll be busy in the next montsh with other (work and study related)
projects, so do not expect the ported plugin soon. Just porting it would
be really easy (I've read the example plugin for OpenSync on Monday), but
I would like to add some extra features like ToDo handling (other plugin
-> mobile direction already works in my private version) with the first
release.
If you don't want to wait till I can allocate some time for porting the
plugin, feel free to start it without me. I'll join the project after my
work related projects finished.

Cheers:
Balint

> Hi Balint,
>
> Not sure if you're still using that Yahoo address, so trying this one...
>
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> From: Matthew Kay <m_...@fa...>
> To: bal...@ya...
> Subject: Porting gnokii plugin to Opensync
> Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 12:49:43 +0100
> Hi Balint,
>
> I've been involved in a recent discussion on the Opensync mailing list
> about a gnokii plugin, and forgot that you have already put a lot of
> time into a plugin for Multisync 0.8x.
>
> In case you didn't know, Opensync is the replacement for the Multisync
> libraries written by the authors of Multisync with a view to replacing
> it, and Multisync 0.9 is the (also in development) application to use
> those opensync libraries. Currently, there is no sign of your plugin in
> the opensync project - are you interested in porting it over? I could
> help in testing (I use gnapplet on a 6670 phone), and a bit of coding
> perhaps although my C is only OK, not great!
>
>
> Some resources:
>
> The opensync homepage
> http://www.opensync.org/
>
> An example Opensync plugin
> http://www.opensync.org/browser/trunk/docs/example-plugin/
>
> The main opensync-users mailing list
> http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/opensync-users
>
> Links to the other mailing lists, opensync-commits and opensync-devel
> http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=134148
>
> My mailing list thread about a gnokii plugin - before I realised you'd
> already written a multisync one!
> http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=7121135&forum_id=44467
>
>
> Hope that's of interest to you. Let me know what your plans are for the
> plugin! If you're not interested in porting it, perhaps we could open it
> up to the gnokii and opensync mailing lists.
>
> Best wishes,
> Matt
>
> London, UK
>
>

Re: [Opensync-users] Plugin for gnokii

[Michal S. <re...@at...>]

BTW: there's also gnokii plugin for multisync written by Balint Reczey 
<bal...@ya...> and he also considered porting to opensync.
So you may try to coordinate the effort for the opensync plugin in order 
to create one solution ...

The sources are already available in SF CVS:
http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/multisync/multisync/plugins/gnokii_sync/?only_with_tag=branch_08X

Regards
Michal


On Tue, 26 Apr 2005, Pawel Kot wrote:

> On Mon, 25 Apr 2005, Eduardo Pereira Habkost wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>>> I've written some Python code to help me back up my addressbook from my
>>> phone, using gnokii. I'd love to help Opensync by augmenting this into
>>> an Opensync plugin. However, there are a few preliminary things I wanted
>>> to raise.
>> 
>> Do you know which protocol does gnokii implement, to access your phone?
>
> It depends on the phone. It may be either FBUS, MBUS protocols, AT commands 
> or gnapplet binary protocol (defined internally by gnokii).
>
> take care,
> pkot
> -- 
> p k o t a t b e z s e n s u d o t p l
> http://www.gnokii.org/
>
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Re: [Opensync-users] Plugin for gnokii

[Armin B. <arm...@de...>]

David Eriksson wrote:
> On Tue, 2005-04-26 at 15:02 +0200, Alan Schmitt wrote:
>
>>Le 26 avr. 05, à 09:33, David Eriksson a écrit :
>>
>>
>>>I also think you should use the XML format. For contacts it is
>>>basically
>>>the vCard properties but in XML, but using the XML format will make you
>>>independent of vCard parsing and such.
>>>
>>>The best documentation is the xml-vcard.c source code ... :-)
>>
>>I am very interested by XML based formats for PIM tools. Is this code
>>following some XML-vcard standard?
>
>
> As far as I know, the XML is just meant to properly represent anything
> that a "MIME directory" (RFC something) can contain, with named tags for
> known properties (RFC this and that for vCard, vEvent, vTodo).
>

Thats basically right. But it is not supposed to only represent the mime
dir related content, but "all" content available (read: the information
stored in the xml-contact is the set union of the information available
on all other formats). Therefore this format will be somewhat dynamical
and will change over time.

> I plan to patch xml-vcard.c to use these #defines instead of the
> literals for the tag names:
>
>   http://www.2good.nu/blandat/opensync-xml-contact.h
>
> However, Armin rewrote xml-vcard.c before I comitted the work I had
> done, and I havent updated it yet...

ups. didnt know about this patch when i made my changes, sorry! Ill try
to do the fixes when i find some time.
see: http://www.opensync.org/ticket/82

>
> If someone has more time to spare than I, feel free to submit a patch!
>

Re: [Opensync-users] Plugin for gnokii

[Pawel K. <pk...@be...>]

On Mon, 25 Apr 2005, Eduardo Pereira Habkost wrote:

Hi,

>> I've written some Python code to help me back up my addressbook from my
>> phone, using gnokii. I'd love to help Opensync by augmenting this into
>> an Opensync plugin. However, there are a few preliminary things I wanted
>> to raise.
>
> Do you know which protocol does gnokii implement, to access your phone?

It depends on the phone. It may be either FBUS, MBUS protocols, AT 
commands or gnapplet binary protocol (defined internally by gnokii).

take care,
pkot
-- 
p k o t a t b e z s e n s u d o t p l
http://www.gnokii.org/

Re: [Opensync-users] Plugin for gnokii

[David E. <tw...@us...>]

On Tue, 2005-04-26 at 15:02 +0200, Alan Schmitt wrote:
> Le 26 avr. 05, =E0 09:33, David Eriksson a =E9crit :
>=20
> > I also think you should use the XML format. For contacts it is=20
> > basically
> > the vCard properties but in XML, but using the XML format will make y=
ou
> > independent of vCard parsing and such.
> >
> > The best documentation is the xml-vcard.c source code ... :-)
>=20
> I am very interested by XML based formats for PIM tools. Is this code=20
> following some XML-vcard standard?

As far as I know, the XML is just meant to properly represent anything
that a "MIME directory" (RFC something) can contain, with named tags for
known properties (RFC this and that for vCard, vEvent, vTodo).

I plan to patch xml-vcard.c to use these #defines instead of the
literals for the tag names:

  http://www.2good.nu/blandat/opensync-xml-contact.h

However, Armin rewrote xml-vcard.c before I comitted the work I had
done, and I havent updated it yet...=20

If someone has more time to spare than I, feel free to submit a patch!

--=20
Regards,
               -\- David Eriksson -/-

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Re: [Opensync-users] Plugin for gnokii

[Alan S. <ala...@po...>]

Le 26 avr. 05, =E0 09:33, David Eriksson a =E9crit :

> I also think you should use the XML format. For contacts it is=20
> basically
> the vCard properties but in XML, but using the XML format will make =
you
> independent of vCard parsing and such.
>
> The best documentation is the xml-vcard.c source code ... :-)

I am very interested by XML based formats for PIM tools. Is this code=20
following some XML-vcard standard?

Alan Schmitt

Re: [Opensync-users] Plugin for gnokii

[Armin B. <arm...@de...>]

Matthew Kay wrote:

>Glad you're on this list, Pawel! 
>
>Glad people think this is a good idea. I'm fine with converting to XML
>in the plugin, that should be very easy (especially in Python) , and
>I'll look at the code David suggested for the API. 
>
>Sadly, I've got exams at Imperial College, London over the next few
>weeks so I'm unlikely to get started on it right away - if anyone else
>is enthused, by all means go ahead and report to the list!
>
>I had a thought about merging. Obviously it is a complete nightmare
>trying to get the specific capabilities of each device, but perhaps
>that's something that you could leave to the user, say by getting them
>to configure the plugin via an XML file or the GUI as to which fields
>their device can handle? For the Gnokii plugin, this problem is
>simplified - the restriction is not so much the phones themselves as the
>gnokii application, so you could provide the users for presets
>(Gnokii-series 60, Gnokii-series 40 etc.). These could be updated on the
>plugin side as Gnokii development progressed. This is one more advantage
>of the server/client architecture rather than dealing with the phone
>directly - you are given predictable output.
>  
>
i think opensync should be as easy to use for the user as possible, so 
if there was a way to have less options for the user i would go this 
way. Instead of a drop down menu where the user has to pick his phone 
this should be detected. each phone will tell what it is somewhere and 
this should be used to report the correct capabilities.

I think there could be an even better approach (at least for the user 
and for the plugin developers): auto detection. We would generate a xml 
contact for example that has all available fields set. Then we send it 
to the device and query it again afterwards. Now we just have to compare 
which fields are missing. We could even implement a caching mechanism 
for this so we dont have to do this when we see a "known" phone.

>But, I can well imagine that it's a big coding job - good luck with the
>SyncML plugin, I think that you Opensync developers are making something
>really good. The decision to start something completely new and
>ambitious (rather than sticking with Multisync 0.8x) is really starting
>to pay off, I think.
>
>  
>
I sure hope so :)

>Best wishes,
>Matt
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