Re: [Opensync-users] One-way sync (WAS: Advice on a cell phone purchase?)

[Dotan C. <dot...@gm...>]

2008/6/7 Emanoil Kotsev <del...@ya...>:
>> In my opinion things are getting better with
>> opensync, however, the
>> hardware manufacturers change their sync specs with
>> every new phone.
>
> That's really the problem. I was thinking if we can
> force them to post the specs in advance, so that we
> may cope. At least hear in Europe it could be done,
> because honestly I feel my rights hurt if I'm buying a
> phone and have to buy a OS (mostlly bundled to
> hardware) to sync it.
> I also beleive that the manufacturers will cooperate
> (and why not?)

Well, we can't force them to do anything. But we could tell them that
we purchase the products that do what we need them to. And we need
Linux support.

>> Hopefully SyncML will solve this. Write to Nokia,
>> Motorola, Siemans,
>> LG, and the other phone manufacturers and let them
>> know that Linux
>> users want to purchase their phones and sync them as
>> well. If we don't
>> let them know that we exist, then they will not help
>> us.
>>
>
> Is there a discussion about a petition or some kind of
> act.

There will be soon. I have another two weeks of exams before I start
working on other projects. If you would like to help write to hardware
and software manufacturers than let me know, I'll send more details in
a few weeks.

> Or who is doing syncml and who not and why not? I
> think the companies need a regulation, so that if they
> don't want to follow a standard (because greede) they
> have to be forced to give the specs what they are
> really doing or provide proprietary driver.

Cellphone companies in particular are both willing and wary of
collablorating with their competitors. Bluetooth is the fruit of
collaboration.

>> If you cannot find the addresses for the cellphone
>> manufacturers, then
>> write to me and I will find them for you. I write to
>> one company
>> (hardware or software) a week requesting Linux
>> support, and you would
>> be surprised at how willing hardware manufacturers
>> would be to provide
>> support when they see that people want it.
>
> not quite sure if you ironically mean it.

I am dead serious. I will soon start providing information for other
to help as well.

> I have +/-
> experience regarding support. Mostly they say. Yeah,
> sure it's good to have but linux is not primary target
> because it's small market and we are planing support
> in future.

Exactly! If Linux users write to them then they will see that the
Linux market is not so small. Furthermore, the Linux market is
composed of much more technically-inclined people, who will buy their
gadgets.

> But surprisingly as you say there are more and more
> that see the potential and really provide help.

Very much so.

> Also as I am really thinking to check if I can not
> file a questioning about the legal possibility to file
> a case in the EU commission for human rights and for
> competition. I mean if the EU can vote for rights of
> mice and chicken ... they should be able to push the
> money makers to give us at least technical specs
> needed to build a sync program in one month or so
> after the phones are out, or even better to support
> the developers to bring drivers together with phones.

I doubt if you can, but it would not hurt to try. Let us know what you find.

> The 0.22 version is much better than 0.19 but is
> absolutely unusable (at least for me).
>
> The question now is how to sync one way as you do,
> or/and how to sync outlook with kde?
>
> Do you have a suitable howto in mind?
>

Give me two weeks to finish my exams and I will try to sync the phone.
It is a Nokia, though. I will post details.

Dotan Cohen

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