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Re: [Opensvcdecoder-support] Problem decoding IDR pictures
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From: mblestel <med...@in...> - 2010-06-30 07:55:13
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Hello Selim,<br>
<br>
<br>
Thank you for testing the decoder.<br>
<br>
Having a look to your cfg files, I point out that you are using MGS
Vectors eqauls to 1<br>
I think that the problem can come from this option.<br>
<br>
You should try with MGS Vector equals to 0.<br>
<br>
I will try to solve the bug with the MGS Vector option.<br>
<br>
Kind regards<br>
<br>
Médéric<br>
<br>
<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
lang="EN-US">Hello again,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
lang="EN-US">Please find attached
3 streams containing MGS layers:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent: -18pt;"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-US"><span style="">-<span
style="font-family: "Times New Roman"; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span dir="ltr"></span><span
style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-US">DQD : L0Q1 (working)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent: -18pt;"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-US"><span style="">-<span
style="font-family: "Times New Roman"; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span dir="ltr"></span><span
style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-US">DQDQ : L0Q1 + L1Q1 (not
working fine)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent: -18pt;"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-US"><span style="">-<span
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</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span dir="ltr"></span><span
style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-US">DDQ : L1Q1 (not working
fine)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
lang="EN-US">If you have any
configuration scheme where MGS layers are decoded fine, could you
please send
it to me that will be of great help. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
lang="EN-US">Otherwise, is the
opensvcdecoder capable of handling the SEI messages? Especially the
SSEI or the
layers not present SEI message. Our intention is to provide such
messages when
modifying the stream in order to let the player know about the new
stream
characteristics.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
lang="EN-US">Thankfully,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
lang="EN-US">Selim<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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mblestel
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:med...@in...">mailto:med...@in...</a>] <br>
<b>Envoyé :</b> mercredi 16 juin 2010 09:16<br>
<b>À :</b> ELLOUZE Selim RD-CORE-LAN<br>
<b>Cc :</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ope...@li...">ope...@li...</a><br>
<b>Objet :</b> Re: [Opensvcdecoder-support] Problem decoding IDR
pictures<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Hello Selim,<br>
<br>
I know that I have problems with MGS case, but it depends of the
encoding
parameters.<br>
For example, the decoder is compatible with the following stream
(SVCBMT-13.264) which is part from the conformance testing of the SVC
standard.<br>
This stream has three layers, DqId equals to 0, 1 or 2.<br>
<br>
I have also several others streams with different configurations in
which MGS
layers have dependency_id different from 0. And the decoder is able to
decode
correctly these streams.<br>
<br>
If you can provide me streams and configuration files for the case
where
OpenSVCDecoder is not compatible with.<br>
<br>
Kind regards<br>
<br>
Médéric<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:sel...@or...">sel...@or...</a>
a écrit : <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Hello
again,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
lang="EN-US">Reporting on MGS
case: I have tested some scenarios and I noticed that MGS is fine only
with one
layer on top of the base layer, i.e L0Q0 – L0Q1 works. I have also test
L0Q0-L0Q1-L1Q0 and it works fine. However these cases are not supported
by the
OpenSVC Decoder:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent: -18pt;"><span
style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-US">More than one MGS Layer
on top of the base layer</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent: -18pt;"><span
style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-US">Any MGS layer with L
> 0</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
lang="EN-US">That means the only
case it works Q=1 and L=0. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
lang="EN-US">I hope this could
help any future work on this issue.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
lang="EN-US">Best regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
lang="EN-US">Selim </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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mblestel [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:med...@in...">mailto:med...@in...</a>]
<br>
<b>Envoyé :</b> vendredi 11 juin 2010 17:34<br>
<b>À :</b> ELLOUZE Selim RD-CO</span><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; color: windowtext;">RE-LAN<br>
<b>Cc :</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ope...@li...">ope...@li...</a>;
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:mr...@in...">mr...@in...</a><br>
<b>Objet :</b> Re: Problem decoding IDR pictures</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><br>
Hello Selim,<br>
<br>
First, thank you for using Open SVC Decoder.<br>
<br>
The problem was due to negative POC, which are authorized in the SVC
standard.<br>
The modifications can be found under the revision 171 of the SVN
repository.<br>
<br>
Concerning constraints in configuration files, Open SVC Decoder is not
compatible with MGSVector.<br>
These following lines should be removed from configuration files:<br>
MGSVectorMode 1<br>
MGSVector0 4<br>
MGSVector1 4<br>
MGSVector2 8<br>
<br>
<br>
Kind regards<br>
<br>
Médéric<br>
<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:sel...@or...">sel...@or...</a>
a écrit : <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Hello,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">I have got some troubles
trying decoding a
sequence with IDR pictures. The SVC stream is decoded properly except
that when
decoding an IDR picture, a sort of comeback occurs. It is like the
stream is
paused, played back and then restarts being decoded properly. However
changing
the spatial resolution is not affected.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">When I checked the JSVM
encoder output, I
found this stream structure (which I think is the source of the
problem):</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Courier New";">AU
0: I T0 L0 Q0 QP 34 Y 31.2299 U
41.3298 V 42.2093 13568 bit</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Courier New";">AU
0: I T0 L1 Q0 QP 34 Y 31.1768 U
41.8522 V 42.5728 55392 bit</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Courier New";">AU
-8: P T1 L0 Q0 QP 38 Y 30.3367
U 41.6256 V 42.7728 5664 bit</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Courier New";">AU
-8: P T1 L1 Q0 QP 38 Y 30.2618
U 42.3020 V 42.4606 34912 bit</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Courier New";">AU
-12: P T2 L0 Q0 QP 39 Y 30.0292
U 41.6095 V 42.7954 3280 bit</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Courier New";">AU
-12: P T2 L1 Q0 QP 39 Y 29.9022
U 42.2241 V 42.2924 27568 bit</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Courier New";">AU
-14: P T3 L0 Q0 QP 40 Y 29.7667
U 41.6960 V 42.9154 1440 bit</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Courier New";">AU
-14: P T3 L1 Q0 QP 40 Y 29.2568
U 42.2922 V 42.3649 13952 bit</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Courier New";">AU
-15: P T4 L0 Q0 QP 42 Y 29.6208
U 41.6600 V 42.9284 728 bit</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Courier New";"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Courier New";" lang="EN-US">I
suspect the « - » ordered pictures to trouble the decoder.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Courier New";" lang="EN-US">Please
find attached the configuration files I used and the encoder output. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Courier New";" lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Courier New";" lang="EN-US">I
tested you video_2 sequence and I noticed that we could change spatial
resolution without problems so it should include IDR pictures. I was
wondering
if there are any constraints to include in the JSVM configuration files
in
order to have the stream work properly with Open SVC Decoder.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Courier New";" lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Courier New";" lang="EN-US">Best
regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Courier New";" lang="EN-US">Selim
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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