Re: [Openoss-devel] SOAP Gen status

[Tina O S. <tos...@tm...>]

I can certainly add it to next week’s agenda as it falls in  nicely to our discussion on organising for FX13 and re-charter of the project.   HOWEVER  I do not want the team to forget we still have to deliver R1.1.2 and we will be discussing that as well. Hopefully it will be a matter of final tidy-up before submitting for inclusion into FX12.5

Many thanks,
Tina.

From: Joann O'Brien [mailto:jo...@tm...]
Sent: 27 September 2012 22:36
To: S Fratini; Craig Gallen (opennms)
Cc: openoss-devel; Marc Flauw; Kenneth Dilbeck
Subject: Re: [Openoss-devel] SOAP Gen status

Hi all,
Can we have a discussion on this next week?

I can join the SII team on Wednesday at 2pm.  I have some thoughts regarding how we could reposition the tooling and thereby strengthen the value proposition and improve the support the team gets.   In general this is in the area of formally broadening the scope to include demonstration of relevance to expedited interfaces, network api’s, auto generated B2B exchanges in a multi-vendor, complex value chain scenario, etc.
These may be a stretch too far, but it’s worth discussing to consider the possibilities.

Let me know if this time suits you guys,
Thanks
Joann




From: S Fratini [mailto:sfr...@gm...]<mailto:[mailto:sfr...@gm...]>
Sent: 27 September 2012 19:26
To: Craig Gallen (opennms)
Cc: Marc Flauw; openoss-devel; Joann O'Brien; Kenneth Dilbeck
Subject: Re: [Openoss-devel] SOAP Gen status

Craig

Do you have any thoughts as to the business case for a TM Forum member company to provide resources to help with the maintenance of JOSIF?

The only reason I can imagine is that a company plans to use JOSIF and/or its output with a very high priority and thus wants to make sure the software is well maintained.

Maybe another approach is to have a membership fee for this project (or supply people resources) - doesn't sound so good but I state it anyway.

Is it a matter of a TM Forum member company hiring you (Craig) part-time to do more work on this?

On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 1:57 AM, Craig Gallen (opennms) <cg...@op...<mailto:cg...@op...>> wrote:
Hi Pierre,

Status: SoapImpl, EJBImpl, JVTSpec generators now generating code which compiles for PM, MPAC and RAM agaist the XML generated by the SOAP generator. All ready to package. I will be tagging 1.1.2 and moving to trunk to 1.1.3-SNAPSHOT this week.

I appreciate and share your concerns. Unfortunately all of the problems you mention are well understood. We just don't have the resources with the dedicated time and skills to deal with them. Most of the recent problems we have had have been because nobody was checking the generated XML until I tried to get the implementation code to work. I'm surprised the PM Catalyst folks hadn't noticed the problems with the generated SOAP long before now. This perhaps is a very strong proof of the value of working on RI CTK implementations at the same time as creating the spec.

Personally my biggest problem is that I am not able to put nearly as much time into the work as I did when I was working full time on it during the first two years. If we could find a sponsor, I could put in more effort.

I will be at management world Orlando. It would be great if we could use the opportunity to do a face to face review of where we are and also go through the inventory code. I know you will be teaching some of the time but I will be there from Sunday through Friday morning.

Apart from a technical review, I would also like to talk through what is realistically required to make a sustainable tool chain. Tina and Ken and Joan may also want to join us for some of this. So far we have tried to do this without a realistic appreciation of the costs which have mostly been hidden. There are real costs of sustaining a project which mostly OpenNMS have  funded to get things started (my time and efforts).

I understand the TM Forum paying for you to do  work but I think that is very much future development work and bringing on new participants. It's not the same as the basic job of infrastructure and release management.  Last year the TM Forum did stump up some cash for me to help write marketing collateral and spend the Christmas holidays tagging a release.  Perhaps this is something we could look at on a more sustained basis.

cheers,
Craig


On 27/09/2012 06:13, Flauw, Marc wrote:
Pierre,

I am sorry you were not able to attend the status meeting yesterday. Yes, Xose fixed it on Monday and I confirmed on Tuesday.

Best regards

Marc

From: Pierre Gauthier [mailto:pga...@tm...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 10:49 PM
To: Flauw, Marc; Craig Gallen (opennms)
Cc: Xose Ramon Sousa Vazquez (xr...@op...<mailto:xr...@op...>); Tina O Sullivan; SB Mahapatra
Subject: Re: SOAP Gen status

Hi All,

Have we fixed the issue with the associations in the dependent model.

We should really think about building a regression test suite to handle these
core infrastructural requirements.

We can't wait at the last moment like we do now to figure out so fundamental problems.

This applies to the RI/CTK generation code which has a large number of issues (i.e String Array, Class Name clashes etc...)

Pierre
On Sep 26, 2012, at 3:28 AM, "Flauw, Marc" <Mar...@hp...<mailto:Mar...@hp...>> wrote:

Hi Xose,

Just checking with you.
Did you made any further update to the SOAP Generator since the version I tested yesterday?

Also, did your update the  TIP_SOAP_Generator_Package project with latest jar ?

Best regards

Marc



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