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Re: [Openoss-devel] SOAP Gen status
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From: Craig G. (opennms) <cg...@op...> - 2012-09-27 21:38:35
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Hi, It would be good to chat next week. The SII team now meet an hour earlier at 13.00. Craig On 27/09/2012 22:36, Joann O'Brien wrote: > > Hi all, > > Can we have a discussion on this next week? > > I can join the SII team on Wednesday at 2pm. I have some thoughts > regarding how we could reposition the tooling and thereby strengthen > the value proposition and improve the support the team gets. In > general this is in the area of formally broadening the scope to > include demonstration of relevance to expedited interfaces, network > api's, auto generated B2B exchanges in a multi-vendor, complex value > chain scenario, etc. > > These may be a stretch too far, but it's worth discussing to consider > the possibilities. > > Let me know if this time suits you guys, > > Thanks > > Joann > > *From:*S Fratini [mailto:sfr...@gm...] > *Sent:* 27 September 2012 19:26 > *To:* Craig Gallen (opennms) > *Cc:* Marc Flauw; openoss-devel; Joann O'Brien; Kenneth Dilbeck > *Subject:* Re: [Openoss-devel] SOAP Gen status > > Craig > > Do you have any thoughts as to the business case for a TM Forum member > company to provide resources to help with the maintenance of JOSIF? > > The only reason I can imagine is that a company plans to use JOSIF > and/or its output with a very high priority and thus wants to make > sure the software is well maintained. > > Maybe another approach is to have a membership fee for this project > (or supply people resources) - doesn't sound so good but I state it > anyway. > > Is it a matter of a TM Forum member company hiring you (Craig) > part-time to do more work on this? > > On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 1:57 AM, Craig Gallen (opennms) > <cg...@op... <mailto:cg...@op...>> wrote: > > Hi Pierre, > > Status: SoapImpl, EJBImpl, JVTSpec generators now generating code > which compiles for PM, MPAC and RAM agaist the XML generated by the > SOAP generator. All ready to package. I will be tagging 1.1.2 and > moving to trunk to 1.1.3-SNAPSHOT this week. > > I appreciate and share your concerns. Unfortunately all of the > problems you mention are well understood. We just don't have the > resources with the dedicated time and skills to deal with them. Most > of the recent problems we have had have been because nobody was > checking the generated XML until I tried to get the implementation > code to work. I'm surprised the PM Catalyst folks hadn't noticed the > problems with the generated SOAP long before now. This perhaps is a > very strong proof of the value of working on RI CTK implementations at > the same time as creating the spec. > > Personally my biggest problem is that I am not able to put nearly as > much time into the work as I did when I was working full time on it > during the first two years. If we could find a sponsor, I could put in > more effort. > > I will be at management world Orlando. It would be great if we could > use the opportunity to do a face to face review of where we are and > also go through the inventory code. I know you will be teaching some > of the time but I will be there from Sunday through Friday morning. > > Apart from a technical review, I would also like to talk through what > is realistically required to make a sustainable tool chain. Tina and > Ken and Joan may also want to join us for some of this. So far we have > tried to do this without a realistic appreciation of the costs which > have mostly been hidden. There are real costs of sustaining a project > which mostly OpenNMS have funded to get things started (my time and > efforts). > > I understand the TM Forum paying for you to do work but I think that > is very much future development work and bringing on new participants. > It's not the same as the basic job of infrastructure and release > management. Last year the TM Forum did stump up some cash for me to > help write marketing collateral and spend the Christmas holidays > tagging a release. Perhaps this is something we could look at on a > more sustained basis. > > cheers, > Craig > > > > On 27/09/2012 06:13, Flauw, Marc wrote: > > Pierre, > > I am sorry you were not able to attend the status meeting > yesterday. Yes, Xose fixed it on Monday and I confirmed on Tuesday. > > Best regards > > Marc > > *From:*Pierre Gauthier [mailto:pga...@tm...] > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 26, 2012 10:49 PM > *To:* Flauw, Marc; Craig Gallen (opennms) > *Cc:* Xose Ramon Sousa Vazquez (xr...@op... > <mailto:xr...@op...>); Tina O Sullivan; SB Mahapatra > *Subject:* Re: SOAP Gen status > > Hi All, > > Have we fixed the issue with the associations in the dependent model. > > We should really think about building a regression test suite to > handle these > > core infrastructural requirements. > > We can't wait at the last moment like we do now to figure out so > fundamental problems. > > This applies to the RI/CTK generation code which has a large > number of issues (i.e String Array, Class Name clashes etc...) > > Pierre > > On Sep 26, 2012, at 3:28 AM, "Flauw, Marc" <Mar...@hp... > <mailto:Mar...@hp...>> wrote: > > Hi Xose, > > Just checking with you. > > Did you made any further update to the SOAP Generator since the > version I tested yesterday? > > Also, did your update the TIP_SOAP_Generator_Package project with > latest jar ? > > Best regards > > Marc > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Everyone hates slow websites. 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