Re: [Openoss-devel] SOAP Gen status

[S F. <sfr...@gm...>]

Craig

Do you have any thoughts as to the business case for a TM Forum member
company to provide resources to help with the maintenance of JOSIF?

The only reason I can imagine is that a company plans to use JOSIF and/or
its output with a very high priority and thus wants to make sure the
software is well maintained.

Maybe another approach is to have a membership fee for this project (or
supply people resources) - doesn't sound so good but I state it anyway.

Is it a matter of a TM Forum member company hiring you (Craig) part-time to
do more work on this?


On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 1:57 AM, Craig Gallen (opennms) <cg...@op...
> wrote:

>  Hi Pierre,
>
> Status: SoapImpl, EJBImpl, JVTSpec generators now generating code which
> compiles for PM, MPAC and RAM agaist the XML generated by the SOAP
> generator. All ready to package. I will be tagging 1.1.2 and moving to
> trunk to 1.1.3-SNAPSHOT this week.
>
> I appreciate and share your concerns. Unfortunately all of the problems
> you mention are well understood. We just don't have the resources with the
> dedicated time and skills to deal with them. Most of the recent problems we
> have had have been because nobody was checking the generated XML until I
> tried to get the implementation code to work. I'm surprised the PM Catalyst
> folks hadn't noticed the problems with the generated SOAP long before now.
> This perhaps is a very strong proof of the value of working on RI CTK
> implementations at the same time as creating the spec.
>
> Personally my biggest problem is that I am not able to put nearly as much
> time into the work as I did when I was working full time on it during the
> first two years. If we could find a sponsor, I could put in more effort.
>
> I will be at management world Orlando. It would be great if we could use
> the opportunity to do a face to face review of where we are and also go
> through the inventory code. I know you will be teaching some of the time
> but I will be there from Sunday through Friday morning.
>
> Apart from a technical review, I would also like to talk through what is
> realistically required to make a sustainable tool chain. Tina and Ken and
> Joan may also want to join us for some of this. So far we have tried to do
> this without a realistic appreciation of the costs which have mostly been
> hidden. There are real costs of sustaining a project which mostly OpenNMS
> have  funded to get things started (my time and efforts).
>
> I understand the TM Forum paying for you to do  work but I think that is
> very much future development work and bringing on new participants. It's
> not the same as the basic job of infrastructure and release management.
> Last year the TM Forum did stump up some cash for me to help write
> marketing collateral and spend the Christmas holidays tagging a release.
> Perhaps this is something we could look at on a more sustained basis.
>
> cheers,
> Craig
>
>
>
>
> On 27/09/2012 06:13, Flauw, Marc wrote:
>
>  Pierre,****
>
> ** **
>
> I am sorry you were not able to attend the status meeting yesterday. Yes,
> Xose fixed it on Monday and I confirmed on Tuesday.****
>
> ** **
>
> Best regards****
>
> ** **
>
> Marc****
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Pierre Gauthier [mailto:pga...@tm...<pga...@tm...>]
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 26, 2012 10:49 PM
> *To:* Flauw, Marc; Craig Gallen (opennms)
> *Cc:* Xose Ramon Sousa Vazquez (xr...@op...); Tina O
> Sullivan; SB Mahapatra
> *Subject:* Re: SOAP Gen status****
>
> ** **
>
> Hi All, ****
>
> ** **
>
> Have we fixed the issue with the associations in the dependent model.****
>
> ** **
>
> We should really think about building a regression test suite to handle
> these****
>
> core infrastructural requirements.****
>
> ** **
>
> We can't wait at the last moment like we do now to figure out so
> fundamental problems.****
>
> ** **
>
> This applies to the RI/CTK generation code which has a large number of
> issues (i.e String Array, Class Name clashes etc...)****
>
> ** **
>
> Pierre****
>
> On Sep 26, 2012, at 3:28 AM, "Flauw, Marc" <Mar...@hp...> wrote:****
>
>
>
> ****
>
> Hi Xose,****
>
>  ****
>
> Just checking with you.****
>
> Did you made any further update to the SOAP Generator since the version I
> tested yesterday?****
>
>  ****
>
> Also, did your update the  TIP_SOAP_Generator_Package project with latest
> jar ?****
>
>  ****
>
> Best regards****
>
>  ****
>
> Marc****
>
> ** **
>
>
>
>
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Steve