Re: [Openoss-devel] SOAP Gen status

[Craig G. (opennms) <cg...@op...>]

Hi Pierre,

Status: SoapImpl, EJBImpl, JVTSpec generators now generating code which 
compiles for PM, MPAC and RAM agaist the XML generated by the SOAP 
generator. All ready to package. I will be tagging 1.1.2 and moving to 
trunk to 1.1.3-SNAPSHOT this week.

I appreciate and share your concerns. Unfortunately all of the problems 
you mention are well understood. We just don't have the resources with 
the dedicated time and skills to deal with them. Most of the recent 
problems we have had have been because nobody was checking the generated 
XML until I tried to get the implementation code to work. I'm surprised 
the PM Catalyst folks hadn't noticed the problems with the generated 
SOAP long before now. This perhaps is a very strong proof of the value 
of working on RI CTK implementations at the same time as creating the spec.

Personally my biggest problem is that I am not able to put nearly as 
much time into the work as I did when I was working full time on it 
during the first two years. If we could find a sponsor, I could put in 
more effort.

I will be at management world Orlando. It would be great if we could use 
the opportunity to do a face to face review of where we are and also go 
through the inventory code. I know you will be teaching some of the time 
but I will be there from Sunday through Friday morning.

Apart from a technical review, I would also like to talk through what is 
realistically required to make a sustainable tool chain. Tina and Ken 
and Joan may also want to join us for some of this. So far we have tried 
to do this without a realistic appreciation of the costs which have 
mostly been hidden. There are real costs of sustaining a project which 
mostly OpenNMS have  funded to get things started (my time and efforts).

I understand the TM Forum paying for you to do  work but I think that is 
very much future development work and bringing on new participants. It's 
not the same as the basic job of infrastructure and release management.  
Last year the TM Forum did stump up some cash for me to help write 
marketing collateral and spend the Christmas holidays tagging a 
release.  Perhaps this is something we could look at on a more sustained 
basis.

cheers,
Craig




On 27/09/2012 06:13, Flauw, Marc wrote:
>
> Pierre,
>
> I am sorry you were not able to attend the status meeting yesterday. 
> Yes, Xose fixed it on Monday and I confirmed on Tuesday.
>
> Best regards
>
> Marc
>
> *From:*Pierre Gauthier [mailto:pga...@tm...]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 26, 2012 10:49 PM
> *To:* Flauw, Marc; Craig Gallen (opennms)
> *Cc:* Xose Ramon Sousa Vazquez (xr...@op...); Tina O 
> Sullivan; SB Mahapatra
> *Subject:* Re: SOAP Gen status
>
> Hi All,
>
> Have we fixed the issue with the associations in the dependent model.
>
> We should really think about building a regression test suite to 
> handle these
>
> core infrastructural requirements.
>
> We can't wait at the last moment like we do now to figure out so 
> fundamental problems.
>
> This applies to the RI/CTK generation code which has a large number of 
> issues (i.e String Array, Class Name clashes etc...)
>
> Pierre
>
> On Sep 26, 2012, at 3:28 AM, "Flauw, Marc" <Mar...@hp... 
> <mailto:Mar...@hp...>> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi Xose,
>
> Just checking with you.
>
> Did you made any further update to the SOAP Generator since the 
> version I tested yesterday?
>
> Also, did your update the  TIP_SOAP_Generator_Package project with 
> latest jar ?
>
> Best regards
>
> Marc
>