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Re: [OpenNode-users] Upcoming web-based management system?
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From: <ope...@li...> - 2010-03-05 20:15:26
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-- ---------------------------------------------- Andres Toomsalu, an...@ac... On 04.03.2010, at 0:26, ope...@li... wrote: > As long as we are making a wish list, > > Another thing the Proxmox does not have is the ability to do high availability. RHEV does have this ability. VM high availibility is definitely in our future roadmap. > > The backup capabilities of Proxmox are ok, the ability to make a snapshot of a running box is helpful but it needs to be paired with another tool like BackupPC to be useful. The snapshots are great but if you have a large amount of data to be backed up the snapshots take forever. To get around this I take a snapshot once a week and use BackupPC to fill in the gaps. We are going to include Safekeep backup with OpenNode soon (safekeep.sf.net). For exporting VM-s Proxmox vzdump utility is already included. > Although if you implement image management (Scott's first suggestion) you should be able to just copy what has changed on each snapshot saving time and disk space and possibly eliminate the need for BackupPC especially if those back images could be mounted read only so you could restore specific files. > > As for storage shared storage seems to be the way to go. You could just make an OpenFiler box as a virtual machine and connect via iSCSI to that if you did not already have iSCSI or something else in place. We want at first provide local storage management - shared storage is possible but just you have to configure manually for now. Not always shared storage is good - it can be too slow or too complicated - so we want to be offer simple alternatives also (as local storage). > > Thanks, > _ > /-\ ndrew > > On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 2:55 PM, <ope...@li...> wrote: > Greetings, > > I'm curious as to what the feature set of opennode's upcoming web-based management system will be. I'm looking for something between that of Proxmox VE and Red Hat Enterprise Linux Virtualization. > > === Proxmox VE === > It is dead easy to install and use... and it works well... but it lacks the following features: > > 1) KVM VM image management - It would be nice if one could create a VM and use the storage as a base image for other VMs. > > 2) Tiered user access - It would be nice to give ownership of a VM to a user and let them have some web-based management of it > > 3) Power management - It would be nice to have some power policies so one could load balance VMs across multiple physical nodes, or consolidate VMs if one wanted to conserve power and migrate machines to turn off unneeded physical machines when load is low > > 4) VDI features - It would be nice to have a connection broker for VDI users. Red Hat open sourced SPICE in January but so far no one has been able to incorporate > > == RHEV for Servers === > It claims to have all of the features missing in Proxmox VE BUT it has a number of major annoyances: > > 1) Windows-based Management app - To install their management app you have to put it on a Windows 2000 Server. It uses Microsoft SQL server as a storage back end, Microsoft IIS server as the web-server, and .Net technology for the management app. It requires Microsoft Internet Explorer to connect to the management app. Red Hat is in the process of completely rewriting the management app as a Jboss application but it will be some time before that is available > > 2) The management app is very error prone and buggy - Granted, the hardware configuration / network I used it on wasn't ideal but it should have worked much better than it did. I was using NFS storage and I was constantly having issues with storage disappearing. Talking to friends it seems to be pretty painful to use with iSCSI targets too. The current management app is just to fragile and error prone to be useful... at least for me. > > 3) The feature set is there but the complexity it adds seems to almost require a very expensive hardware configuration to take advantage of those features. > > === OpenNode === > > KVM and LVM provide a lot of functionality... but how does the shared storage need to be implimented to use it? Will one need a clustered filesystem in a clustered machine environment... or will something as open as DRBD work? > > What features will OpenNode offer that Proxmox VE is missing and that RHEV has? Red Hat has not released RHEV for Desktops yet but that is on the roadmap. Will OpenNode offer anything in the way of VDI? Will it offer SPICE remote display capability? > > I'm sure a lot of people want to know the answers to these questions. :) > > Thanks in advance and TYL, > -- > Scott Dowdle > 704 Church Street > Belgrade, MT 59714 > (406)388-0827 [home] > (406)994-3931 [work] > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval > Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs > proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. > See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev > _______________________________________________ > OpenNode-users mailing list > Ope...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/opennode-users > > > > -- > _ > /-\ ndrew Niemantsverdriet > Academic Computing > (406) 238-7360 > Rocky Mountain College > 1511 Poly Dr. > Billings MT, 59102 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval > Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs > proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. > See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev_______________________________________________ > OpenNode-users mailing list > Ope...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/opennode-users |
