OpenNLP is on Apache now: opennlp.apache.org. It comes with the Apache
license. That should be sufficient for your purposes, right? If you need
support, ask on the users mailing list there.
--Thilo
On 03/06/16 08:51, Sridhar wrote:
Hi,
Is a commercial license available for opennlp? Thanks for the info...
Sridhar
Hi Thilo
That should do thanks for pointing it out. Does it mean the model files are also covered under the apache license? For, i saw a previous mail stating that the corpora from which the model files were built are copyrigthed and not available for use commercially..
Sridhar
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I see what you mean. My non-legal assessment is that you can use the
derived models freely, even if the data they were trained on has a
non-free license. However, if you want to be on the safe side and train
your own models from properly licensed data, you'd have to find out
which data set you need for each model, and how to obtain a license. If
you ask on the OpenNLP mailing list (over on Apache, not here; this one
is deprecated), people may be able to help.
--Thilo
On 03.06.2016 13:02, Sridhar wrote:
Hi Thilo
That should do thanks for pointing it out. Does it mean the model
files are also covered under the apache license? For, i saw a previous
mail stating that the corpora from which the model files were built
are copyrigthed and not available for use commercially..
Sridhar
It is absolutely not the case that you can freely use a model that is
trained from a non-free corpus. The corpus creators must grant explicit
permission for that. We did this for the Norwegian models that are here:
If it were the case that this were generally permissible, then someone
could train a model an a corpus that someone puts tons of effort into, get
a good model, apply it to a bunch of new data, fix it up a bit and ship
that as free. And that's not right if the corpus creator didn't agree to
that.
I'm not sure we can really know this until it has been tested in a court
of law. There are certainly people who know more about this than I do
who think that exactly the scenario you describe is fine from a legal
perspective (of course it depends on the exact licensing conditions). I
am not debating if this is the ethically correct thing to do.
--Thilo
On 04.06.2016 18:26, Jason Baldridge wrote:
It is absolutely /not/ the case that you can freely use a model that is
trained from a non-free corpus. The corpus creators must grant explicit
permission for that. We did this for the Norwegian models that are here:
If it were the case that this were generally permissible, then someone
could train a model an a corpus that someone puts tons of effort into, get
a good model, apply it to a bunch of new data, fix it up a bit and ship
that as free. And that's not right if the corpus creator didn't agree to
that.
Ok, thanks for the pointers Thilo.
Sridhar
Is a commercial license available for opennlp?
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Yes. As someone who has contributed to corpora and open source software, I
strongly urge people to use the corpora in accordance with the wishes of
the creators. Regardless of legal considerations, it's the right thing to
do. If you don't like licensing desires of creators, annotate your own
stuff, make it available, and build momentum for the language(s) you care
about!
I'm not sure we can really know this until it has been tested in a court
of law. There are certainly people who know more about this than I do
who think that exactly the scenario you describe is fine from a legal
perspective (of course it depends on the exact licensing conditions). I
am not debating if this is the ethically correct thing to do.
--Thilo
On 04.06.2016 18:26, Jason Baldridge wrote:
It is absolutely /not/ the case that you can freely use a model that is
trained from a non-free corpus. The corpus creators must grant explicit
permission for that. We did this for the Norwegian models that are here:
If it were the case that this were generally permissible, then someone
could train a model an a corpus that someone puts tons of effort into, get
a good model, apply it to a bunch of new data, fix it up a bit and ship
that as free. And that's not right if the corpus creator didn't agree to
that.
-Jason
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sridharsrr@users.sf.net wrote:
Ok, thanks for the pointers Thilo.
Sridhar
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Hi,
Is a commercial license available for opennlp? Thanks for the info...
Sridhar
OpenNLP is on Apache now: opennlp.apache.org. It comes with the Apache
license. That should be sufficient for your purposes, right? If you need
support, ask on the users mailing list there.
--Thilo
On 03/06/16 08:51, Sridhar wrote:
Hi Thilo
That should do thanks for pointing it out. Does it mean the model files are also covered under the apache license? For, i saw a previous mail stating that the corpora from which the model files were built are copyrigthed and not available for use commercially..
Sridhar
Hi Sridhar,
I see what you mean. My non-legal assessment is that you can use the
derived models freely, even if the data they were trained on has a
non-free license. However, if you want to be on the safe side and train
your own models from properly licensed data, you'd have to find out
which data set you need for each model, and how to obtain a license. If
you ask on the OpenNLP mailing list (over on Apache, not here; this one
is deprecated), people may be able to help.
--Thilo
On 03.06.2016 13:02, Sridhar wrote:
Ok, thanks for the pointers Thilo.
Sridhar
It is absolutely not the case that you can freely use a model that is
trained from a non-free corpus. The corpus creators must grant explicit
permission for that. We did this for the Norwegian models that are here:
https://github.com/utcompling/OpenNLP-Models
If it were the case that this were generally permissible, then someone
could train a model an a corpus that someone puts tons of effort into, get
a good model, apply it to a bunch of new data, fix it up a bit and ship
that as free. And that's not right if the corpus creator didn't agree to
that.
-Jason
On Fri, 3 Jun 2016 at 23:58 Sridhar sridharsrr@users.sf.net wrote:
I'm not sure we can really know this until it has been tested in a court
of law. There are certainly people who know more about this than I do
who think that exactly the scenario you describe is fine from a legal
perspective (of course it depends on the exact licensing conditions). I
am not debating if this is the ethically correct thing to do.
--Thilo
On 04.06.2016 18:26, Jason Baldridge wrote:
Yes. As someone who has contributed to corpora and open source software, I
strongly urge people to use the corpora in accordance with the wishes of
the creators. Regardless of legal considerations, it's the right thing to
do. If you don't like licensing desires of creators, annotate your own
stuff, make it available, and build momentum for the language(s) you care
about!
-Jason
On Sat, 4 Jun 2016 at 15:42 Thilo twgoetz@users.sf.net wrote: