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[Openme-developers] Announcement to players -revision 0.1

From: Oliver D. B. <oli...@ma...> - 2003-01-19 12:45:42

Please read the list and see if I added somethign we dont do or missed =
something. Also add details.


Game Set up for 4th generation:

-12 galaxies average size of 50 X 50.. some bigger

-Distance index extended to a limit of 50

-Amount of Lux ports lowered, price of lux lowered pirce of food raised

-Mines+combat drone price raised to 10.000=20

-new ship list

-new weapon list

-XP for construction lowered

-Construction price rise faster at the end

Features redone:

-ship to ship combat code. Its now one to one and no auto return fire. =
Combat code made 10 times faster

-Ship versus forces code, works the same way just faster

-Jump drive, works the same way just faster

-Base busting code reworked.
    -Defender: A bigger chance of someone dyign on his base
    -Attacker A chance of "wearing the base" down. Chance for destroying =
structures=20

-Ship technology code made smoother and faster



New features:

-Racial abilities=20

-Critical hits in combat system=20

RE: [Openme-developers] Announcement to players -revision 0.1

From: Michael v. D. <mi...@ci...> - 2003-01-19 14:25:48

XP gain for kills lowered to 10% ?
 
Return of Hyperspace ?
 
Changes to racial kill bounties ?
 
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Please read the list and see if I added somethign we dont do or missed
something. Also add details.
 
 
Game Set up for 4th generation:
 
-12 galaxies average size of 50 X 50.. some bigger
 
-Distance index extended to a limit of 50
 
-Amount of Lux ports lowered, price of lux lowered pirce of food raised
 
-Mines+combat drone price raised to 10.000 
 
-new ship list
 
-new weapon list
 
-XP for construction lowered
 
-Construction price rise faster at the end
 
Features redone:
 
-ship to ship combat code. Its now one to one and no auto return fire.
Combat code made 10 times faster
 
-Ship versus forces code, works the same way just faster
 
-Jump drive, works the same way just faster
 
-Base busting code reworked.
    -Defender: A bigger chance of someone dyign on his base
    -Attacker A chance of "wearing the base" down. Chance for destroying
structures 
 
-Ship technology code made smoother and faster
 
 
 
New features:
 
-Racial abilities 
 
-Critical hits in combat system

RE: [Openme-developers] Announcement to players -revision 0.1

From: Michael v. D. <mi...@ci...> - 2003-01-19 15:17:15

-Distance index extended to a limit of 50 
 
Is this a typo ?
 
Either the DI cost increase curve is very low or jump trading will
become 6 times better then normal trading ?
 
This pretty much means that Alliances will try to claim whole galaxies
to get a safe DI of 50

Re: [Openme-developers] Announcement to players -revision 0.1

From: Oliver D. B. <oli...@ma...> - 2003-01-19 17:16:37

MessageNot a type.. currently a di8 gives about 6 times it will give 5,6 =
now and a di of 50 will give 11 times. An alliance that controls an =
entire galaxy including all ports and all possible upgrades?, so their =
DI never drops. Well if they manage I would think they deserve the 50 DI
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Michael van Dongen=20
  To: ope...@li...=20
  Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 4:16 PM
  Subject: RE: [Openme-developers] Announcement to players -revision 0.1


  -Distance index extended to a limit of 50=20

  Is this a typo ?

  Either the DI cost increase curve is very low or jump trading will =
become 6 times better then normal trading ?

  This pretty much means that Alliances will try to claim whole galaxies =
to get a safe DI of 50=20

Re: [Openme-developers] Announcement to players -revision 0.1

From: LJC. v. R. <va...@wa...> - 2003-01-19 15:56:13

<html>
Also in next game,<br>
=B0 Ship mountable devices can be produced on base, in a special, new
construction: Technology Center<br>
=B0 New technology to defeat the DSS-mark II<br>
=B0 Deficit goods for construction/production of goods are shown in
red<br>
=B0 and new research-topics to expand the functionality of bases, and
ships...<br>
<br>
<blockquote type=3Dcite cite><font face=3D"arial" size=3D2>Please read the l=
ist
and see if I added somethign we dont do or missed something. Also add
details.</font><br>
&nbsp; <br>
<font face=3D"arial" size=3D2><b>Game Set up for 4th
generation:</b></font><br>
<font face=3D"arial" size=3D2>-12 galaxies average size of 50 X 50.. some
bigger</font><br>
<font face=3D"arial" size=3D2>-Distance index extended to a limit of
50</font><br>
<font face=3D"arial" size=3D2>-Amount of Lux ports lowered, price of lux
lowered pirce of food raised</font><br>
<font face=3D"arial" size=3D2>-Mines+combat drone price raised to
10.000</font> <br>
<font face=3D"arial" size=3D2>-new ship list</font><br>
<font face=3D"arial" size=3D2>-new weapon list</font><br>
<font face=3D"arial" size=3D2>-XP for construction lowered</font><br>
<font face=3D"arial" size=3D2>-Construction price rise faster at the
end</font><br>
&nbsp;<br>
<font face=3D"arial" size=3D2><b>Features redone:</b></font><br>
<font face=3D"arial" size=3D2>-ship to ship combat code. Its now one to one
and no auto return fire. Combat code made 10 times faster</font><br>
<font face=3D"arial" size=3D2>-Ship versus forces code, works the same way
just faster</font><br>
<font face=3D"arial" size=3D2>-Jump drive, works the same way just
faster</font><br>
<font face=3D"arial" size=3D2>-Base busting code reworked.</font><br>
<font face=3D"arial" size=3D2><x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;</x-tab>-Defender:
A bigger chance of someone dying on his base</font><br>
<font face=3D"arial" size=3D2><x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;</x-tab>-Attacker
A chance of &quot;wearing the base&quot; down. Chance for destroying
structures</font> <br>
&nbsp;<font face=3D"arial" size=3D2>-Ship technology code made smoother and
faster</font><br>
&nbsp; <br>
<font face=3D"arial" size=3D2><b>New features:</b></font><br>
<font face=3D"arial" size=3D2>-Racial abilities </font><br>
<font face=3D"arial" size=3D2>-Critical hits in combat system</font>
</blockquote></html>

RE: [Openme-developers] Announcement to players -revision 0.1

From: Farid K. <Far...@ro...> - 2003-01-20 19:32:03

With regards to experience gain/loss from combat=85

So far, to combat code allows an experience gain providing you kill a
more experienced merchant=85
And the Game Set up, says 10% experience gain=85

In chat, we were talking about a formula=85

Some ideas:
XP =3D experience; :)

1) attacker XP gain < defender XP loss
There is the idea that we don=92t =91make=92 XP when assigning XP gain, =
it
should be less than or equal to the XP loss (of the dead)

2) I think a base XP loss should be set a level increments.  Make it
less damaging for lower level merchants, and more damaging for higher
level merchants.  We can use level as an increment or set a percentage
at certain levels
For example:
-Newbie level players lose NO XP when they get podded (after discussing
it with vrm, this is the way I have it coded ATM, they also lose no
money when they die)
-Players level 10 and under lose 10%
-Every 10 levels after that lose an additional 5%, so a level 40
(Emperor) would lose 25% of their XP. (sounds harsh eh?)

Why? Why such a huge loss of XP at level 40?  I think that having more
merchants at the middling levels, and making level 40 (Emperor) a much
harder target to reach, will extend the game life in later stages.
Newer merchants won=92t be at the mercy of the high XP merchants with =
the
big damage low accuracy weapons.  And it introduces more risk.

3) XP loss can then be enhanced by racial criteria, less of a loss for
one race, more of a loss for another=85

4) XP Gain; well, XP Gain from kills does not necessarily have to equal
the XP loss.  It should NEVER be more, but can always be less.  I think
level increments in XP gain is good, make it more fruitful to hunt/kill
more experienced merchants
-Killing Newbie No XP Gain
-Base set at 5% of defender XP=20
-No bonus for killing less experienced merchants
-A 0.25% bonus for every level the defeated had on you=85 so a level 10
killing a level 20, would get him 7.5% of defender XP, a level 10
killing a level 40 would get him 12.5%, a level 20 killing a level 40
would get him 7.5%...  and so on.  A level 39 killing a level 40 get
5.25%...  Less XP gain the higher up in XP you are.

5) Dying to forces? From a base? Well I think XP loss shouldn=92t change
from what is set in item 2.

6) XP Gain from people dying to your base? I think a 5% of the attacker
XP is reasonable. =20


Comments?

Hawklan...

-----Original Message-----
From: ope...@li...
[mailto:ope...@li...] On Behalf Of
Oliver Due Billing
Sent: January 19, 2003 7:46 AM
To: ope...@li...
Subject: [Openme-developers] Announcement to players -revision 0.1

Please read the list and see if I added somethign we dont do or missed
something. Also add details.
=A0
=A0
Game Set up for 4th=A0generation:
=A0
-12 galaxies=A0average size of 50 X 50.. some bigger
=A0
-Distance index extended to a limit of 50
=A0
-Amount of Lux ports lowered, price of lux lowered pirce of food raised
=A0
-Mines+combat drone price raised to 10.000=A0
=A0
-new ship list
=A0
-new weapon list
=A0
-XP for construction lowered
=A0
-Construction price rise faster at the end
=A0
Features redone:
=A0
-ship to ship combat code. Its now one to one and no auto return fire.
Combat code made 10 times faster
=A0
-Ship versus forces code, works the same way just faster
=A0
-Jump drive, works the same way just faster
=A0
-Base busting code reworked.
=A0=A0=A0 -Defender:=A0A bigger chance of someone dyign on his base
=A0=A0=A0 -Attacker A chance of=A0"wearing the base" down. Chance=A0for =
destroying
structures=A0
=A0
-Ship technology code made smoother and faster
=A0
=A0
=A0
New features:
=A0
-Racial abilities=20
=A0
-Critical hits in combat system=A0

RE: [Openme-developers] Announcement to players -revision 0.1

From: Farid K. <Far...@ro...> - 2003-01-21 03:22:28

/me is on drugs. =20

Thanks y'all for sending me the kind messages and not flaming me in the
mailing list.  I am grateful.

But all I was trying to do was make it different and level dependant, I
guess I went a little over board.

Sorry

Hawklan

-----Original Message-----
From: ope...@li...
[mailto:ope...@li...] On Behalf Of
Farid Khan
Sent: January 20, 2003 2:32 PM
To: ope...@li...
Subject: RE: [Openme-developers] Announcement to players -revision 0.1

With regards to experience gain/loss from combat=85

So far, to combat code allows an experience gain providing you kill a
more experienced merchant=85
And the Game Set up, says 10% experience gain=85

In chat, we were talking about a formula=85

Some ideas:
XP =3D experience; :)

1) attacker XP gain < defender XP loss
There is the idea that we don=92t =91make=92 XP when assigning XP gain, =
it
should be less than or equal to the XP loss (of the dead)

2) I think a base XP loss should be set a level increments.  Make it
less damaging for lower level merchants, and more damaging for higher
level merchants.  We can use level as an increment or set a percentage
at certain levels
For example:
-Newbie level players lose NO XP when they get podded (after discussing
it with vrm, this is the way I have it coded ATM, they also lose no
money when they die)
-Players level 10 and under lose 10%
-Every 10 levels after that lose an additional 5%, so a level 40
(Emperor) would lose 25% of their XP. (sounds harsh eh?)

Why? Why such a huge loss of XP at level 40?  I think that having more
merchants at the middling levels, and making level 40 (Emperor) a much
harder target to reach, will extend the game life in later stages.
Newer merchants won=92t be at the mercy of the high XP merchants with =
the
big damage low accuracy weapons.  And it introduces more risk.

3) XP loss can then be enhanced by racial criteria, less of a loss for
one race, more of a loss for another=85

4) XP Gain; well, XP Gain from kills does not necessarily have to equal
the XP loss.  It should NEVER be more, but can always be less.  I think
level increments in XP gain is good, make it more fruitful to hunt/kill
more experienced merchants
-Killing Newbie No XP Gain
-Base set at 5% of defender XP=20
-No bonus for killing less experienced merchants
-A 0.25% bonus for every level the defeated had on you=85 so a level 10
killing a level 20, would get him 7.5% of defender XP, a level 10
killing a level 40 would get him 12.5%, a level 20 killing a level 40
would get him 7.5%...  and so on.  A level 39 killing a level 40 get
5.25%...  Less XP gain the higher up in XP you are.

5) Dying to forces? From a base? Well I think XP loss shouldn=92t change
from what is set in item 2.

6) XP Gain from people dying to your base? I think a 5% of the attacker
XP is reasonable. =20


Comments?

Hawklan...

-----Original Message-----
From: ope...@li...
[mailto:ope...@li...] On Behalf Of
Oliver Due Billing
Sent: January 19, 2003 7:46 AM
To: ope...@li...
Subject: [Openme-developers] Announcement to players -revision 0.1

Please read the list and see if I added somethign we dont do or missed
something. Also add details.
=A0
=A0
Game Set up for 4th=A0generation:
=A0
-12 galaxies=A0average size of 50 X 50.. some bigger
=A0
-Distance index extended to a limit of 50
=A0
-Amount of Lux ports lowered, price of lux lowered pirce of food raised
=A0
-Mines+combat drone price raised to 10.000=A0
=A0
-new ship list
=A0
-new weapon list
=A0
-XP for construction lowered
=A0
-Construction price rise faster at the end
=A0
Features redone:
=A0
-ship to ship combat code. Its now one to one and no auto return fire.
Combat code made 10 times faster
=A0
-Ship versus forces code, works the same way just faster
=A0
-Jump drive, works the same way just faster
=A0
-Base busting code reworked.
=A0=A0=A0 -Defender:=A0A bigger chance of someone dyign on his base
=A0=A0=A0 -Attacker A chance of=A0"wearing the base" down. Chance=A0for =
destroying
structures=A0
=A0
-Ship technology code made smoother and faster
=A0
=A0
=A0
New features:
=A0
-Racial abilities=20
=A0
-Critical hits in combat system=A0



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RE: [Openme-developers] Announcement to players -revision 0.1

From: LJC. v. R. <va...@wa...> - 2003-01-21 07:58:48

I agree with these, although I suggest a more gradual 5%+(level/2) XP-loss=
=20
for #2, to reach the same effect,

>1) attacker XP gain < defender XP loss
>
>2) I think a base XP loss should be set a level increments.
>- Every 10 levels after that lose an additional 5%, so a level 40
>(Emperor) would lose 25% of their XP. (sounds harsh eh?)
>
>3) XP loss can then be enhanced by racial criteria, less of a loss for
>one race, more of a loss for another=85
>
>4) XP Gain; well, XP Gain from kills does not necessarily have to equal
>the XP loss.  It should NEVER be more, but can always be less.
>
>5) Dying to forces? From a base? Well I think XP loss shouldn=92t change
>from what is set in item 2.
>
>6) XP Gain from people dying to your base? I think a 5% of the attacker
>XP is reasonable.