Re: [Openme-developers] Alliance sizes?

[Darth D. <Dar...@kn...>]

Message>FMT: Limit to 12 (must be accepted by both sides)

MAP: Limit to 4 (must be accepted by both sides)

WAR: Limit to 4 (does not have to be accepted on each side, so an =
alliance can declare war on 4 alliances, but, they can have a whole lot =
more alliance declare war on them. <


Can I just say something about this. I'll use my Alliance as an example. =
With a limit of 25 people, the Alliance would have to be split into two =
Alliances (much like USSM and USSM ES in 2nd Gen). There would also be a =
third recruiting Alliance. Immediatley this uses up 2 MAPs. I then =
consider an ally to extend MAP to. I offer them a MAP, they accept. =
Being the same size as me, they have split into two Alliances also, and =
I must MAP with that offshoot. I have no more MAPs to MAP with their =
recruits alliance or any other Alliance in the game.=20

By the same sausage, I declare war on say Fear the Warriors. I then =
declare war on their sister Alliance which they have used to harbour =
their extra numbers. I then declare war on their recruits Alliance. I am =
now stuffed if I wish to declare war on anyone else, since I have only =
one more War treaty to offer to Alliances which most probably require =
three. They run around free of the affects of war, and everyone gets =
confused when they read Treaties: under the persons name.=20

I suggest that either restrictions are made on how many treaties may be =
established OR permissable numbers in an Alliance are restricted, not =
both. It might not be the hugest ever problem with war but its just =
silly when it comes to MAP. Out of the two options I personally think =
that it would be preferable for treaties to be restricted


----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Farid Khan=20
  To: ope...@li...=20
  Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 5:23 PM
  Subject: RE: [Openme-developers] Alliance sizes?


  Well, MAP is just that: Mutual Assistance.  Since combat code is 1 on =
1, MAP is useful since it will remove the attack button from members =
that you have MAP with.  In BB, I expect to use MAP to extend who can be =
in sector for attack; this way, numbers can remain hidden from CPL when =
an operation is underway.  Minimize alliance hopping.

  =20

  MAP can be used for many things: using another alliances stargates, =
landing on ally bases etc.  Of course, none of that needs to be =
addressed now, it is functionality that can wait.

  =20

  I was discussing how forces and FMT/MAP would work with ChrisN and =
others, I think by removing attack button on FMT/MAP stacks by allowing =
the removal of FMT forces in sectors your alliances have claimed, and =
adding/removing forces from MAP alliance stacks, would make things a lot =
more interesting.

  =20

  BTW, it has not been mentioned yet, but I believe that limits are in =
order for treaty types:

  =20

  FMT: Limit to 12 (must be accepted by both sides)

  MAP: Limit to 4 (must be accepted by both sides)

  WAR: Limit to 4 (does not have to be accepted on each side, so an =
alliance can declare war on 4 alliances, but, they can have a whole lot =
more alliance declare war on them.=20

  =20

  =20

  -----Original Message-----
  From: ope...@li... =
[mailto:ope...@li...] On Behalf Of =
Oliver Due Billing
  Sent: January 20, 2003 11:02 AM
  To: Michael van Dongen; ope...@li...
  Subject: Re: [Openme-developers] Alliance sizes?

  =20

  Organise you mean base busts.. Well the whole point of redoing base =
busting is that you shouldent need 20 guys. You can have but its not =
nessesary, you can still inflict damage and thus we make the base =
busting feature avaliable to alliances with less then 40 people

    ----- Original Message -----=20

    From: Michael van Dongen=20

    To: ope...@li...=20

    Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 2:42 PM

    Subject: RE: [Openme-developers] Alliance sizes?

    =20

    If MAP works now then I'd have no trouble with a max of 25. 20 is =
just bit too small to organize anything with your own alliance

    =20

    But if MAP doesn't work yet I won't be happy with anything less then =
40

      -----Original Message-----
      From: ope...@li... =
[mailto:ope...@li...] On Behalf Of =
Oliver Due Billing
      Sent: maandag 20 januari 2003 12:44
      To: ope...@li...
      Subject: [Openme-developers] Alliance sizes?

      What should the alliance sizes be set at?, as discussed previously =
more and smaller alliances would be nice. So how big should we set =
them?. I am personaly thinking about a max size of 20-25.

      =20

      Middy