RE: [Openme-developers] EXP Gain/Loss

[Farid K. <Far...@ro...>]

Uhh Carn?

It isn't 40% of TOTAL XP
It is 40% of the XP to get from level 39 to level 40

Kev should have added a clearer explanation for you :)

[00:17:15] <KevKev> take a look at the new numbers
[00:18:35] <Hawklan> hmmm
[00:20:02] <Hawklan> 40 2,553,600 Emperor 
[00:20:02] <Hawklan> 39 2,407,064 Commander in Chief 
[00:20:02] <Hawklan> 38 2,265,464 Dep. Commander in Chief 
[00:20:02] <Hawklan> 37 2,128,800 Imperial Fleet Admiral 
[00:20:02] <Hawklan> 36 1,997,064 Dep. Imperial Fleet Admiral 
[00:20:02] <Hawklan> 35 1,870,000 Galactic Fleet Admiral 
[00:20:29] <Hawklan> so?
[00:20:33] <Hawklan> if I am level 33
[00:20:34] <ChrisN[gone]> heh. I was about to suggest a % of the XP
difference between curlvl and next lvl
[00:20:42] <Hawklan> and I kill and emperor
[00:21:11] <Hawklan> that means what? 20% of 2.55Mil-2.4Mil
[00:21:27] <KevKev> you get 20% of the XP required for you to go from
33-34
[00:21:37] <Hawklan> ohhhhhhh
[00:22:06] <Hawklan> 35 1,870,000 Galactic Fleet Admiral 
[00:22:06] <Hawklan> 34 1,747,600 Dep. Galactic Fleet Admiral 
[00:22:06] <Hawklan> 33 1,630,132 Fleet Admiral 
[00:22:21] <ChrisN[gone]> lol thats like 24kxp
[00:22:26] * ChrisN[gone] is now known as ChrisN
[00:22:28] <KevKev> yup
[00:22:35] <ChrisN> thats nothing.
[00:22:40] <ChrisN> jacksquat
[00:22:55] <Hawklan> and if I killed a lvl 40
[00:23:12] <Hawklan> he would lose 40% of 150K?
[00:23:21] <KevKev> yup

-----Original Message-----
From: ope...@li...
[mailto:ope...@li...] On Behalf Of
Justin Stedman
Sent: January 21, 2003 3:46 PM
To: ope...@li...
Subject: [Openme-developers] EXP Gain/Loss


KevKev some problems with your formula...

40% loss of EXP is MORONIC!!!!
ok, now that I got that out...

I agree we should have a slight net loss in EXP from Killing/Dying.

You should ALWAYS gain EXP for a kill, but it should become a smaller
and 
smaller fraction as you get bigger and bigger, but never non-zero.  I
would 
still recommend 5% MIN (which really is only a token amount anyways for
a 
big player killing a small one).

As I said before you can't have dying on its own be too much of a
penalty 
since the EXP loss is too great when you are doing things like Busting 
(which isn't really for personal gain).  15% was probably too high.  I'm
not 
going to risk dying on a bust with 1 million EXP especially if the code
is 
near to 100% for someone dying/round.  When you make #s to extreme you
cause 
problems.  We want to make a game that promotes action not sitting on
your 
base (or on a Starbase) hiding because if you die with your 2 million
EXP 
you'll lose 800K!!!  Not to mention with your way a 1 million EXP player

kills a 2 million EXP player (which won't be hard with everyone firing
on 
the high exp person IS) and goes to 1.4 million and the 2 million EXP
player 
drops to 1.2 million.  Guys remember we are changing other parts of the
game 
so think about how they all relate.  We have 1 on 1 combat which in
itself 
will work to even out EXPs (the highest exp people always being
targetted if 
possible).  We need less moronic things.  15% was too much.  Lower to
10% 
MAX.  Even a 2 million EXP player losing 200k is a horrible thing (now
if 
using my #s will cost 400 million to buy that exp back).  I guess we
could 
have a variance between 1% and 10%, just make the increase for Dying
move up 
faster then for killing which will result in a net loss of EXP.

BTW I wouldn't consider 6 levels to be significantly above another
player.  
5 levels apart is really in the 'same class'.

With your way a level 40 player gets nothing for killing a level 34
player, 
why????

Suggested New Rule: Try to think about impact on game before giving #s.

EXP Gain: (10 - Level Difference/4)% (max of 10%)
EXP Loss: 10% (always)

Simple and to the point.  How about we give no EXP gain for TFP, Forces
and 
Base kills?  Only EXP loss for those.  Only way to gain EXP is a
legitamate 
ship to ship kill.

Carnaugh - The Ass of ME

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