Re: [oll-user] Finally, the revised instructions - please review!

[Phil H. <ma...@ph...>]

That seems fine to me.

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Phil Holmes


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Janek Warchoł 
  To: Phil Holmes ; OpenLilyLib User 
  Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 12:35 AM
  Subject: Re: [oll-user] Finally, the revised instructions - please review!


  Hi all,



  2014-01-26 Phil Holmes <ma...@ph...>

    ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janek Warchoł" <lem...@gm... 



      * i have added a rule that the submissions should have the same line
      breaking as the original engraving.  This is because if the line breaking
      is significantly different, it becomes hard to compare different
      engravings.  What do you think?




    I'm happy with everything except this.  I think line-break decisions are an aspect to how good the overall result is, and thus how good the engraving program is.  Forcing line breaks could easily distort the overall output. I'd accept that one of the final tweaks might be to adjust margins, staff sizes and forced linebreaks to most closely imitate the original, but it should be a final adjustment, not an early one.  Early work should never involve forced breaks. 


  I agree with you that a good engraving program should not need manual breaking.  Indeed, how each program breaks the lines is actually a part of the comparison.

  I was thinking about asking participants to prepare two versions of the engraving - one with default line breaking of their program, and one with the line breaking the same as in the original engraving.  However, as Marc wrote, this would be very inconvenient, as some participants would have to make all adjustments in two versions (well, this actually demonstrates that these programs have a serious weakness).

  I think that we can judge the line-breaking aspect well enough even before the engraving is beautified.  I.e. if the line-breaks after note entry are not the same as line-breaks of the original, then we should compare them at this stage, draw conclusions about the software, and then force line-breaks and continue working on other aspects.


  Oh, and by the way: i think that "adjusting global layout settings" should be moved before adjusting line breaks - it wouldn't make sense otherwise.



  Phil, what do you think?


  best,
  Janek


  PS of course this rule doesn't apply to the already submitted engravings of the first two challenges, as they were announced earlier and participants didn't know about it when they worked.
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