Re: [oll-user] [Challenges] Engraving challenge

[Phil H. <ma...@ph...>]

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From: "Urs Liska" <ul...@op...>
To: "Phil Holmes" <ma...@ph...>; 
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Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [oll-user] [Challenges] Engraving challenge


> Am 10.01.2014 13:34, schrieb Phil Holmes:
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Urs Liska" <ul...@op...>
>> To: <ope...@li...>
>> Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 11:21 AM
>> Subject: Re: [oll-user] [Challenges] Engraving challenge
>>
>>
>>> Am 10.01.2014 11:33, schrieb Phil Holmes:
>>>>
>>>> The other issue is that this is clearly an odd piece of music - the
>>>> beaming
>>>> patterns are very atypical, and any music typesetting program with
>>>> require
>>>> substantial hacking to set this.
>>>
>>> This is intentional - I would like to see how each program performs with
>>> extreme tasks.
>>> But we can discuss if this really is a good idea for a first challenge.
>>> I'd like to hear more opinions on this.
>>
>> OK.
>>
>>>> Some of the crossing notes are not really
>>>> all that easy to read - see the 2nd beat of bar 3, for example.
>>>
>>> I don't really understand what you mean. Please narrow it down some 
>>> more.
>>
>> On the 2nd beat of bar 3, a dotted quaver c in the treble stave crosses
>> to a semi-quaver a (?) in the bass clef, colliding with the beam for the
>> LH.  I'm not convinced it's easy to read that.
>
> the dotted quaver c' crosses to the c' in the bass clef.
> But I still don't quite understand why this is objectionable. It's not 
> easy to read that, but it's the logical notation in that context. And it's 
> not ambiguous. It's not even ambiguous compared to the corresponding 
> points in the next bar where the melody is in triplets.

It's objectionable because the stem goes clean through the beam (without 
being even visible in the beam).  It would be clearer and better looking to 
leave it in the treble stave.

FWIW, also check out the first 4 notes in the LH in bar 3.  No stems in the 
beams.

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Phil Holmes